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Middle Name

What exactly is Duff's middle name. several sources say ann something, BUT, in a program from her most wanted tour, Duff's mother declared that it was Erhard.Kiwidude 16:42, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

I'm guessing it would be Erhard if her actual mother said so. She did after all name Hilary. Although I always thought it was Ann you never know!

It's definitely Erhard... says it in the Most Wanted tour program on a page written by her mom, Susan Duff.

Gay Icon?

Somebody added "Gay Icon" to Hilary's categories. Is this actually true?

Apparently every celebrity is a gay icon. I don't get it, either, and the category seems kinda silly to me. Everyking 23:35, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Gay Icon Project

In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:28, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)


Hil's Family

Does Hilary have a cousin who's name is Kimberly? --.:Jenni:. 13:48, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I remember when User:Hilary Duff was around, the first time, before she made me delete her user page, that she had something about a cousin named Kimberly on her user page. But I don't know if that means anything. Everyking 19:49, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I don't think she was the real Hilary Duff though. She seemed kinda... unHilaryish. She probably knew a lot about Hilary, but I don't think she WAS her. --.:Jenni:. 21:57, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Avril Lavigne

Regardless of your opinion of either Hilary Duff or Avril Lavigne, I don't think it's very NPOV to say "When it [the celebrity feud] left off, Lavigne seemed to have the upper hand". I'm removing it. 62.252.192.12 20:18, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Aaron Carter references

Anyone have any good references for this, or is it just cirucular rumors?

Hilary Duff was furious when she found out that Aaron Carter had been dating Hilary Duff and Lindsay Lohan at the same time.

<>Who?¿? 05:08, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Who wouldn't be upset at being two-timed? IF it said explicitly who I'd be concerned, but simply that she was upset, that's to be expected. It's no secret Aaron two-timed them both. Antares33712 20:46, 15 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Middle name

I see that there is some talk/confusion on her middle name. As an anon posted it as "Hilary Erhard Duff", with a reference [1], but only for registered users. Ugh, I really dont want to have to register, however, I would like to know as well. I did however find a reference to it here, not that its very reliable. <>Who?¿? 30 June 2005 03:14 (UTC)

  • Wow, only US $34.85 to find out if thats her real name... Uhm. no. Hopefully can find a reliable news source. Any other references would be helpful. Thanks. <>Who?¿? 30 June 2005 03:21 (UTC)

Discography

I have removed all of the redundant data from her discogrpahy section. All of this, is and should be on the individual album pages. This is a biographical article, containg information about her life and career, all album specific data should be placed on the albums pages, as its chart ratings do not necessarily pertain to her. <>Who?¿? 21:41, 9 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Vocal class and range

Hilary was classified as a soubrette, which I didn't disagree with until I realized she hit a B6? When did she do that? What song and where can I hear it? That would make her a minimum of a full mezzo-soprano, and most likely a coloratura. Antares33712 17:26, 15 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Since when has she hit B6? Thats almost insane she pratically a teen Britney hardly a 5 octave voice contender.

I think she's a soubrette (which Britney and Ciara are ruling nowadays) and this range info is really bogus. Ashanti has range, I've heard it, but I have never heard Hilary sing anything other than as a pop soubrette. If it is bogus, sorry I helped it along. If she has that much range, she would be a coloratura Antares33712 20:49, 15 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've taken away the vocal profile section because it does not cite its source(s). Under When there is a factual dispute, it says that disputed statements should be moved to the article's talk page until sources have been found for them. Anyway, here it is:

Image change

I'll change the image. Current one is too dark and not focused well. Please choose either Image:Hilary Duff shot.jpg or Image:Hilary Duff shot2.jpg. — Stevey7788 (talk) 21:24, 20 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Why not add more pictures? 10 will be to much but 2 or 3 will be ok. DCBoy
The problem with adding pictures is that they must be public domain or at least, fair use. It is not easy to find such pictures. --Yamla 00:50, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

news anchor?

In the intro paragraph, it says that she is a news anchor, and the article is in the Television Journalists category, but I didn't see anything in the article about this, and the only references to this on Google were Wikipedia mirrors... Lachatdelarue (talk) 15:11, 27 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Someone removed the news-anchor reference. I seems to have been a prank by an anon that lasted since 21:48, 26 July 2005.. Gbeeker 20:05, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Middle name

There's been some editing and reverting regarding her middle name(s). Most of the time, it says "Hilary Ann Duff", but sometimes it's "Hilary Ann Lisa Duff" or "Hilary Erhard Duff". Does anybody have a definitive source on what her actual full name is? *Dan* 02:18, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Erhard? I guess what we need is either some kind of official source or an actual interview in which she mentions what her middle name is. Everyking 03:24, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • According to Susan Duff, her mother, it is Erhard. She told this in a Most Wanted Tour Program.Kiwidude 22:30, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
    • Really? Well, someone just changed it back to Ann. But this evidence here sounds conclusive. I hate to have to take just one person's word for it, though...any possibility we could see something backing it up? Either way I would support a change based on what you say. Everyking 05:09, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
[2] seems to indicate that nobody knows for sure what her middle name is. I'm thinking maybe we might be better off just listing her as Hilary Duff and note the confusion in the article. How does that sound? --Yamla 16:18, September 11, 2005 (UTC)
But this is moot if Kiwidude is right. The only problem is I'd like to have a verifiable source. Everyking 22:32, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I agree wholeheartedly. I'm not claiming that Kiwidude cannot be right. --Yamla 23:16, September 11, 2005 (UTC)
I concur, put it down as "Hilary Duff" for now. When I get the time, probably by Wednesday or Thursday, I'll get the quote from the program and possiby get a picture of the exact text.Kiwidude 23:57, September 11, 2005 (UTC)

Her middle name IS Erhard. Search for "Erhard" in this book bio (searchable online) - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0425205193/qid=1126942370/sr=1-92/ref=sr_1_92/103-1474594-6266247?v=glance&s=books

Indeed. -User 24...something...something

I have a radical suggestion to make: maybe we could just say "Hilary Duff" in the intro, and then talk about the middle name in an "early life" section? It's a bit of a departure from the Wikipedia standard style, but with the way it is now we have people always coming along, being appalled that her middle name could be something so strange sounding, and changing it back to Ann. Everyking 06:53, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Since we have the correct info from a book bio that explicitly states her name isn't Ann, there's no reason on Earth why we should back down and remove her correct middle name to please the ignorant.Vulturell 06:59, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't saying remove it, I was saying move it a little further down into the article. But perhaps it's a bad idea anyway...I'm not sure of it myself, but I figured I'd put it forward and see if anybody thought it was worthwhile. Everyking 07:06, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

hilary duff on wiki??

i saw the debate on whether hilary duff was really on wikipedia as a user or whether it was a hoax. if it really was hilary can i PLEASE have ur phone number or email, because you are fit as!!!!!! what i wouldn't give for a night out with HIL. kieran of harlow

Ryan Norton T | @ | C 22:17, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Dunno, but I seriously doubt it. : Anonymous —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.185.172.189 (talk • contribs) 21:43, 27 October 2005.

Where can I find this debate? Hamedog 16:28, 21 December 2005 (UTC). Also, I some schooling infomation about what schools she went to and if she is going to college/university should be upthere Hamedog 16:28, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Look at User:Hilary Duff and User:Hil Duff for two of the alleged Hilarys here. *Dan T.* 16:36, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hilary is on wiki because she stated this on hilaryduff.com. You need a paid account to see it though. Tcatron565

...which makes it not particularly great as a reference, given that it's not reasonable to expect all curious editors wanting to verify this to pay for an account on that site. *Dan T.* 20:09, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm sorry, that's all I have right now.

Discography section removed

I have removed the discography section from the article. This is because several editors (mostly anons) are constantly altering sales and chart positions of Duff's albums and singles, and with no source to look back to, there's no way to verify these changes. So, in accordance with Wikipedia:Cite sources#When there is a factual dispute, I have moved the discography section here until references have been provided. Extraordinary Machine 15:09, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Album information
Santa Claus Lane
Metamorphosis
Hilary Duff
Most Wanted
  • Released: August 16, 2005 (U.S.)
  • Chart positions: #1 (debut) US (2 weeks), #1 (debut) CAN (2 weeks), # 3 AUS, #31 UK
  • U.S. sales: 695,000
  • RIAA certification: Platinum (in September 2005)
  • ARIA certification: Gold (35,000 Units - Australia)
  • Singles:

Total U.S. Album Sale: 6,700,000+

In addition to her albums, Duff has also recorded songs for some soundtracks and compilations:

She has also been featured on Disneymania Vol. 1 (2002) and Vol. 2 (2004), Radio Disney Jingle Jams (2004) and Marlo Thomas & Friends: Thanks & Giving All Year Long (2004).

Extraordinary Machine 15:09, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"The chart positions look correct to me...or at least the ones from the U.S. Billboard, by the way, would be the source. I don't understand why people like YOU are always screaming at people for putting up the correct chart positions - when YOU are the ones putting up the wrong ones! i don't know why you're in so much denial. 'So Yesterday' made #42...not any higher! 'Come Clean' made #35 - that's it! 'Wake Up' made #29. Those are the chart peaks of her song! Billboard is the official chart - not any other chart1 i don't care if all of her songs got #1 on your local radio station! You had no right to take down the discography information if it was correct!"

user" jmccoymoniz

Yeah, jmccoymoniz is right. You just can't take down the whole discography section. It's one of the more important article in the whole topic. The album and single positions are good. Santa Clause achieved gold certification, Metamorphasis 3x Platinum and Hilary Duff and Most Wanted both achieved platinum sales.

Great. Well, make sure you cite the changes. I see that you have forgotten to do this to your most recent changes, so these will be reverted. --Yamla 19:10, 23 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
The chart positions and certifications for Duff's records can't be correct all the time if people keep altering them day to day (apparently, Hilary Duff is both platinum and two times platinum, according to this article). My removal of the section was in keeping with Wikipedia's guidelines about this sort of dispute. As Yamla said, if you know which ones are right and which ones aren't, please cite your sources (as you are requested to every time you edit a page) so that other edits have something to refer back to in the future. Thanks. Extraordinary Machine 19:13, 23 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Discography and other changes.

Hey. Someone came in and changed lots of stuff that was inacurate. For example someone at the beginning wrote, "three number one albums in u.s", while it was only 2. And some headings were changed too and I fixed those.

In the discography section, U.S. Chart Positions for album, sales, certification, and single chart positions weren't there. I added some that I new 100% but for album sales I wasn't exactly sure, so if someone can edit those for me that would be great. All other artists have all that info. on their page so I thought we could add it to Hilary's too.

Thnx,

When you do, please make sure you cite the information as per WP:CITE. We have far too many uncited edits applied to this article. --Yamla 02:02, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Weight issue

Earlier today User:Zoe reverted what looked to me like a reasonable bit of info about Hilary losing weight. [3] I haven't heard this, and it should have a source, but if it's true it should be included. Since she reverted that, there's been repeated vandalism to the intro calling Hilary "skeletor". My theory is that if we include proper weight loss info in the article, maybe the "skeletor" vandals will see that their insults are represented (in NPOV form) and quit vandalizing. Everyking 12:06, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hilary Erhard Duff or Hilary Ann Duff?

It says right here that her real middle name is Ann.The wiki says it's Erhard. Witch ones true?--Princess Homestar

Wikipedia is accurate. Our information is clearly cited. IMDB, unfortunately, is wrong fairly regularly. That said, it is still a very silly middle name. --Yamla 03:55, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I guess they were paying tribute to her grandma. It's also her father's mid name. Anyway, I saw Duff's birth certificate on Rootsweb.com (you need a subscription) and it is most assuredly Erhard. Vulturell 03:59, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Supergirl?

On the article is says Supergirl is to be her next single, is there any official statement clarifying this? tipexcom213:25 28 December 2005 (GMT)

I do believe you are talking about Material Girl, which is believed to be the single for the soundtrack of Hilary's movie of the same name. Spyco 05:01, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Moderately successful"?

I was just browsing, and I noticed that in the introduction, it mentions that Duff has had a "moderately successful music career." Now, this is perhaps somewhat POV, but how can one label a music career as just "moderately successful" when that music career has yielded two number one albums, three Platinum records and two Top 40 hits? Triggy 05:41, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I took a stab at it WhiteNight T | @ | C 05:44, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Picture

The current picture as of January 14, 2006, is rather odd. it includes a strange girl. can we get a picture of JUST her?--Kiwidude 02:38, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Why not add more pictures? 10 will be to much but 2 or 3 will be ok. DCBoy

Timeline merge

I've suggested merging Hilary Duff timeline into this article. I was tempted to AfD it, but despite the year-by-year breakdown of how old Ms. Duff was in any given year, it does contain potentially useful information on her career towards the end. Powers 22:15, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

I dont think we should merge the two page together. The timeline is too big. Besides it's like the hurricane pages. And it will get longer too as she progresses into 2007, 08, 09, 10 ,11, 12. And there is soooooo much that still needs to be edited onto that tinmeline as well. Plus it's going to be edited a lot better when I get done with it. Tcatron565

I also oppose the merge. But I think the timeline will have to be much improved to justify its existence. Reciting individual episodes, and birthdays, is a little excessive. I think if you tell people somebody's birthday, they can deduce when they become 1,2,3,4,etc... without use telling them. --Rob 22:26, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, this whole discussion will be moved to the timeline's page. Tcatron565

Harvard?

I have doubts about adding Duff to Category:Harvard alumni, as I don't think the online program[4] she took really qualifies. But, the category doesn't really have a definition for alums. So, I'm trying to start a discussion at Category talk:Harvard alumni over what the criteria should be. As for this article, at a minimum, we should mention Harvard in the body of the article, if the category is going to be used. Generally, a category shouldn't say something the article body doesn't. --Rob 00:19, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RIAA Searchable Database

I have noticed that people are lying about the RIAAs. I have tooken the liberty of how to use it.

  1. go to the searchable database
  2. in the artist box, type Hilary Duff
  3. click search at the bottom of the page
  4. a new page will ull up and it will show all of duff's certifications

Tcatron565 talk Fun Page

Chart Positions

All the countries need to be there. If you don't like it change it. Let everyone be dumb about Duff's position. At least I will know them! Tcatron565 3:47pm c 2/08/06

No, the chart positions for every country do not need to be included here, given that "here" is an encylopedia article and not a Hilary Duff fan wiki. WP:NOT an indiscriminate collection of information. "If you don't like it change it" - well, that's what I did, but I've been reverted by you. Extraordinary Machine 22:00, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lindsay Lohan

Is the new paragraph on Duff and Lohan's kissing session in a restaurant baloney, or did all the mainstream gossip mags manage to pass this one over? Powers 20:54, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lip Syncing At Mtv New Year's Bash 2004

Should I upload the video? Cho Chang 16:45, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Album Sales

I have seen that album sales on Duff's discography, but when I click on any of the links that prove it, I see nothing about Duff's album sales. Just chart posistions. I can also prove the sales for Hilary Duff is worng. It's not 2.0 million because, then on the RIAA Searchable database it sould say 2x platinum. But it only says platinum, which means the sales is under 2.0 million. Unless you guys are rounding, then it's wrong. Tcatron565

FLY RELEASED IN THE UK, HITS TOP 20

Since adding correct information to the website is considered vandalism to Yamla, but I won't even go that way...

Can someone please add the information about FLY hitting top 20 in the UK this week? See, I'm not making this up, you can go to: http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp/top40/ and SEE FOR YOURSELF!

God, why do people that aren't even fans keep on "moderating" this page? and when I mean "moderating" I actually mean ruining it by not putting the right info! if it was up for Yamla there would be no news what so ever... and by the way, if you care so much about Hilary's articly, check out her "Fly" single article it's filled with WRONG information... and I mean REALLY filled with wrong info...

Great! Now that you've finally come up with a citation (as you had been asked to do three times already), please feel free to modify the article to reflect this position. Just don't forget to cite it on the main page. As to the information about the Fly article, I encourage you to correct it, again with proper citations. --Yamla 02:40, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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