Talk:Moncton

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==History==http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Moncton_skyline.jpg#file

Though Robert Monckton was involved in the expulsion, is it realy necessary to have that mentioned in the first paragraph? It just seems to hurt the mood of the article. Maybe it should be moved to the history section.

why is the histoyry section starting when setllers came? i find that racist. therer is thoudans of years of human history in this region before eurpoen contact.Gavin the Chosen 13:38, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It may seem a bit out of place, but as a former resident of the area, I like that it (Reference to Monckton) is first as it shows the irony of the act as the Greater Moncton area is probably one of the best examples of a peaceful and cooperative French/English communities that I am aware of, if not in the world.

As far as to what degree the natives of NB are spoken of is purely due to not knowing the history of the area well enough to put in meaningful information. If someone has information pertaining to this, they are welcome to put it in.

Oh and BTW, I am born of a loyalist father and an acadian mother so I am a living example of the ability of two cultures to peacefully coexist.

Buildings

There are number of communication structures near Bayer's Lake in Clayton Park that are taller than the Aliant tower (which means the Aliant tower isn't the tallest structure in Atlantic Canada, as labelled).

I have too agree with the last comment about the structures in Halifax as oppose to the aliant communications tower in moncton. To start the comment above is true, I myself live in Halifax and would like to make the point clear that Moncton may not hold the record for tallest free standing structure, The radio communcation tower located in Fairview, Nova Scotia (A community outside of the city of Halifax) is much taller than the Aliant Tower (600 feet, 182 meters). but is supported by guidelines and is not in contention due to the fact that it is not "free-standing." But, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia (Halifax's twin city) has an area known as Tuft's Cove. In Tuft's Cove there is a an electrical power plant and on this site are three smokestacks which might be taller than the aliant communcations tower in Moncton. Since there was no information on just how tall the three smokestacks were I decided to use other structures that I did know for example the Macdonald Bridge's support beams are 96 meters in height and when put next to the smokestacks it appears to be much smaller then it.

If someone could find any information on the height of these smokestacks that would be greatly appericated and if I am wrong about them being taller than the Alaint Communications tower, then I will change my comment. However, I have other things to say. To start the Aliant Communcations tower can't be classified in the height of stories due to the fact that it has no floors in it and is a solid structure. It is not classified as a building. Second of all the tallest building in Moncton is, if I am not mistaken Assumption Place, an office building standing at 20 stories (or 80 meters) in height. In Halifax there are four buildings that exceed 80 meters in height and they are

1. Fenwick tower (32 stories) 98 meters

2. Purdy's Wharf tower 2 (21 stories) 88 meters

3. 1801 Hollis Street (22 stories) 87 meters

4. Barrington Tower (20 stories) 84 meters

As you can see in the first building, Fenwick Tower, which is actually residence for Dalhousie University students is 32 stories in height, only 3 stories away from the Aliant Tower (which as I said before can not be classified in stories. My last point is that there are other buildings being passes by city council in Halifax to build an observation tower around 150 meters in height and along with this, a handful of other office buildings that exceed the assumpition place including a 25 story complex in the downtown area.

I have concrete evidence that the smokestacks at Tuft's Cove are each individually taller than the Aliant Tower. Each stack is 500 feet in height (or roughly 157 meters) and the Aliant Tower is only 127 meters. Someone erase the comment on the Aliant Tower stating that it is the tallest structure in Altantic Canada.

If the discussion of tallest structures in the Maritimes includes chimneys/smokestacks, such as the 3 located at Tuft's Cove, then Coleson Cove GS has 2 stacks measuring 183m/600 ft.Plasma east 00:46, 27 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I didn't look into that. I guess your right then Tuft's Cove isn't the largest structure, this Coleson Cove place is. Thanks for the information Plasma East

== [[Image:Picture of Moncton Skyline ==[1]]]Is there anyone who follows this page who might happen to have a half decent pic of Moncton's skyline for the top of the page? Sure the sign is nice... but every other town in the province has one too... mylesmalley 03:09, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Moncton doesn't have a very built up skyline it's just a communications tower and a slighty tall building. Moncton is a very, very small city and the sign is fine for a picture. also take a look at the building section. Only three buildings and one is only 8 stories tall. I think the reason that no one put up a picture of the "skyline" is because there isn't any skyline, a skyline is a group of buildings. You only have one and maybe 2 buildings if you consider the communications tower a building. so good luck with finding a picture.

Err.. right. Well, if you'd ever been to moncton you'd noctice that it does have a fairly nice skyline. And moncton, by maritime standards is a fairly large city, and is expected to easily pass Saint John as the provinces' largest city. The fact that there are only 3 buildings on the list is hardly a complete roster of the city. There are no fewer than 5 buildings over 10 stories, including the Aliant Tower, and Place Assumption.mylesmalley 23:26, 5 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well i didn't mean it in a way that was insulting but apparently your taking it that way. Your right, compared to most other maritime cities it is fairly large (population wise but were not talking about population). A very small high-rise is considered to be a 12 story building or more and to further stress this point: Aliant Tower is not a building it is a free-standing structure. I don't see how you can give something that has no floors and is a communications tower a measurment in stories. I'm not saying it's not part of the skyline in fact, it is the most prominent feature, it's just that it isn't exactly what you would call a "building." Oh, and true i guess i was a bit narrow-minded about the complete roster of moncton's buildings and your right you have 4 buildings at 8-10 stories or more but only one of them is considered a high-rise (Assumption Place). Another point would be that I have been to Moncton and I saw the skyline. Your right for its location (Atlantic Canada) it is certaintly at least somewhat defined but i think that your also being a bit narrow-minded because if you have been to any other city like St. John's, Or Halifax and even St. John (personally I like their skyline better) you will see just how small of a city Moncton is "skyline-wise."

This discussion is ridiculous and doesn't add anything to improving Wikipedia's entry for Moncton. It only serves to illustrate how Halifax and every other small Atlantic Canadian city is peanuts when compared with any of the world cities. The "debate"/comparison about structures and skylines between Halifax and Moncton (or others in the region) merely illustrates how all of the respective municipalities are "big fish in a small pond"! Plasma east 01:28, 27 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, yeah your right Plasma East I'll stop I mean, it's kinda like fighting for 56th place, it's just not worth it.(Theyab 18:24, 27 October 2005 (UTC))[reply]

Education

I think there needs to be some consensus on discussion of Mount Allison University in the education section. I have seen changes flying back and forth for weeks, and I think we need to settle it. It is not important to the article to indicate Mount Allison's rank relative to St. Francis Xavier. If we start doing that, then we will need to rank everything in the entire article relative to other things. Where would one stop? I think that all that's really important is that it's indicated that it is a top-rated institution. --Chriskay 15:06, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, your revision seems to be satisfactory and my only point was to not allow for the original sentence to be misleading, and to note other universities. Obviously I sparked the wrong reaction. We'll keep the edit you made and hopefully everyone else can agree on it. Anyways, thank you Theyab 15:41, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for agreeing with me, although I'm not sure why you would think that it's misleading. It doesn't add to the article to simply point out that something else might be rated higher, in an arbitrary ranking, at that. --Chriskay 18:40, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, okay perhaps I wasn't clear. I didn't mean to put St. Francis Xavier on a pedestal, I only wanted to add another university name just to add another name to the article to expand and create links to other pages however, looking back, what I put down was in the wrong context and wasn't necessary as I now see that I only created further problems. Anyways, I'm sorry about that and I hope that we can finally move on from the subject. Theyab 18:55, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rolling Stones Concert

"The city lost over 600, 000 dollars to hold the concert. The cost was mainly in part to the "one-time" infrastructure costs. The concert is hoped to attract other acts however, city councillors hope to avoid further expenses for the city"

I can't see what is so bad about this comment. It adds more information about the concert and it's affect that it had on the city. Sure, it's a negative effect but you can't just erase it and ignore the fact that the city lost money. I'm sure that the concert had several positive effects like attracting other acts to the concert site and boosting the local tourism. I suggest that instead of just erasing this comment perhaps it would be better to add other facts about the concert (although I would keep this to a minimum as not to clutter the article). Anyways, I just wanted to say why this comment is relevant. Theyab 22:18, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Host to 9/11 Strandees

Although perhaps not with the visibility of other Canadaian cities such as Gander, Moncton indeed played host to several thousand stranded airline passengers as a result of the 9/11 terror attacks (including my then-fiancee and me). I think this is worthy of mention; perhaps I will add an entry on this in the near future.

There is a comment regarding this in the entry for the Greater Moncton International Airport but I agree that this was a significant recent event and perhaps should be included in the main article regarding Moncton as well. I will give some thought about how best this can be done.