User talk:Sam Spade/ - archive/November 2005
Myosotis scorpioides, the water forget-me-not, is a herbaceous perennial flowering plant in the borage family, Boraginaceae. It is native to Europe and Asia, but is widely distributed elsewhere, including much of North America, as an introduced species and sometimes a noxious weed. It is an erect to ascending plant of up to 70 cm, bearing small (8-12 mm) flowers that become blue when fully open and have yellow centers. It is usually found in damp or wet habitats, such as bogs, ponds, streams, ditches, fen and rivers. This focus-stacked photograph shows a water forget-me-not growing in Niitvälja bog, Estonia.Photograph credit: Ivar Leidus
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Bible and Reincarnation
Your editing and additions have been superb. Thanks for making a "C" article into an "A" article. One Salient Oversight 06:44, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Calvinism
See my talk page for answers on this One Salient Oversight 11:00, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for your help
Thanks for your help. I've been watching Wikipedia grow for some time now and am very excited about helping to make Wikipedia an even better place. It's always nice to have a friendly face. =) User:SocratesJedi (signature added by me after the fact Sam [Spade] 18:48, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC))
[1]?
I thought the link wasn't working. AndyL 05:09, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Greeting
Hi, I just saw your user greeting, and I'm not sure if the list of links is entirely geared to a new user. Can I suggest you throw in Wikipedia:Tutorial and Wikipedia:Help desk at the top? Best wishes, [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 06:50, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
question about redirects
Hi, I'm a relative newbie; I'm emailing you because you left a message on my talk saying you could help. I think the entry for Sayed Qutb should be a redirect to Sayyid Qutb which should be the main entry, but I'm not sure how to switch them easily. Sayyid is the much more common transliteration of this Arabic name into English, as far as I can tell. It's certainly the way his name is spelled on English translations of his books. I read the rules about deleting redirects and so forth but I'm not sure what category this falls into. Thanks. --csloat 10:10, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
New article
Thanks for the welcome message (wether it is automatic or not ;-)). I'll have a look at these link sometime. Currently, I'm in the process of writing my first article. While I'm here, what should I do when I finish writing it? I mean, except for the stub tag (which I'll add), is there a way to tell people: "Hey, I've written a new article but I'm new so I'm not sure I did it correctly, please have a look at it".
- Well, whats the name of the article? I'll take a look. Also you can try Wikipedia:Peer Review. Your not logged in, BTW. Sam [Spade] 19:05, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Well I know... I just noticed while editing this message that I'm not logged... and seems like you edited faster than me so there is a conflict but nevermind... BRB...
Ok, the article is Computational tree logic but it's not done yet (will take some time to make as I'm not quite fast.
Ged 19:12, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
re welcome
Thank you for your kind thoughts. Too Old 21:00, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Sig
Well, the only reason I commented was because it was so long in code. I thought mine was too long... Its nice to have the external link graphic added. But generally, the idea is that the field in prefs is the section inbetween the "[[User:Name|" and the closing "]]" Ideally the extra talk sig would be an optional field, but we have to add the extra "nickname]][[User_talk:Name|Nick" . Im sure you already figured that out, but I hope that explains it: Be well, -Stevertigo 01:08, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you Sir--ATZ 16:34, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Mother Goddess/Shaktism
Nice edits. --LordSuryaofShropshire 19:23, Jul 19, 2004 (UTC)
AndyL
What is the procedure now? no one participated at the talk page of National Socialism. Andy just decides to return national socialism to the Nazi article. I still don't agree and I think very unprofessional and unacademic. National Socialism existed before Hitler. How can National Socialism be redirected back to Nazism without any talk. He doesn't say or do anything to me. What is the next step for me? Where does the information that Czechs were the first ones to use it in a party name and where does Maurice Barres who also used the word at the same time go? Andy does this without consulting when it was disputed. What gives?WHEELER 22:26, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
"OK, but some method of saying "this complaint is unfair and foolish" should be possible. How about having the writing of "Frivolous or vexatious complaints" being a criteria for being a disruptive or antisocial editor? "
You mean like your complaint against me last weekend?AndyL 20:58, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- That was a legitimate complaint, which was quashed due to an unfortunate state of affairs here on the wiki, which I hope Erich’s policy will assist in correcting. You are likely a self correcting problem, as you will almost certainly either a) mess up bad enough and often enough in your defiance of policy to become a well known misuser of admin powers (much like user:172) or b) shape up and act right, learning from your mistakes and keeping your feet out of the dog droppings in your path. I actually tend towards the latter, and hope that my RfC shamed and frightened you enough to help push you in the right directions. In conclusion, obey policy, including npov Wikipedia:Protection policy and wikipedia:civility, thank you very much :) Sam [Spade] 21:07, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- That was a legitimate complaint
No, it was a frivolous and vexatious complaint. The fact that not one single editor agreed with your complaint should have told you something. AndyL22:04, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Sam [Spade] 22:13, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
And see my response to WHEELER and his response. The poor guy's going to go out and get himself hanged because he can't accept the fact that the community has rejected his article. Perhaps instead of railing against me because you're jealous of the fact that I was elected a sysop and you weren't, you should try to help him by warning him that he's about to make a huge mistake if he actually goes ahead with his National Socialism article. But no, then you'd be agreeing with me and your ego is much too big for that. AndyL22:20, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Good lord. WHEELER'S article is just fine, it just needs a group editing process to help sharpen the edges a bit, and for you to stop harrassing the poor guy. And as far as me being jealous of you, I have declined nomination what, 3 times now? Immodesty doesn't become you. Sam [Spade] 22:28, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Ha! If WHEELER's article was "fine" then why didn't you speak up for it when it was up on Votes for Deletion? Seems that when push comes to shove your friends cannot rely on you to come to their aid in their moment of need though I'm sure your belated support for WHEELER's article is appreciated even if it comes several weeks too late. (and, please note, that I did not initiate the VfD process - I am hardly alone in my criticism of WHEELER's work on this topic). If it the article was "fine" why did the community, in a rare move, come to a consensus that it be deleted?
As for your declining nominations to be an admin, were the nominations not headed for defeat when you graciously declined them? Who is being falsely modest now;)? AndyL
I thought you were supposed to be gone until september? Go find a gf or something, it'll help reduce all this tension. Sam [Spade] 04:26, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Do you have to be so rude? I guess now I can start an RfD on you for having made apersonal atack. I guess all your talk about "civility" is just hypocricy. AndyL
Sorry. I didn't mean to be particularly rude, I was actually kinda sincere about you going out and enjoying life rather than fussing about w me. I'm not exactly your enemy, y'know. Yes, you have annoyed me in the past w statements I found rude (insulting my spelling, etc...); yes, I disagree w you having been made admin, and w some of the decisions you've made when using that authority; but no, I don't hate on you, or want you to be unhappy or anything like that. If it were up to me your life would be all sunshine and buttercups, and yes you'd still be an editor here. I like your edits, something we unfortunately haven’t had much opportunity to focus on. I did look over your edit history more than once, and as far as actual edits you’re quite a positive contributor here. The stuff I have complained about is fairly petty in comparison, I agree, but promoting someone w a penchant for making unfriendly remarks and controversial decisions to admin wasn't something I agreed w, I admit. As far as me being admin, I may want to be someday, but I honestly haven’t in the past. Its alot of work and responsibility w/o much reward. The reason why I might like it in the future is based mainly on Wikipedia:Dealing with disruptive or antisocial editors, something I'd actually have some interest in having an admin status for, and helping with. Anyhow, I'd like to conclude things as sweetly as possible and move on. I don't hate you, rather I wish you well. I don't think your a bad editor, rather I'm glad your here. My complaints about you (mainly talk page stuff) are minor when compared to the benefits your provide (numerous beneficial edits in the main name space). Can we make our peace? I'd appreciate it, Sam [Spade] 18:00, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Who holds the power on wikipedia
(In reply to comments made on User talk: WHEELER)
There's different layers, we have developers, admins, and bureaucrats at the moment.
Some developers also have admin rights, some don't. To become a developer, you simply need to contribute to the technical aspects of wikipedia. To become an admin you need some measure of popularity. So I think both systems are represented on wikipedia. (That and the meritocrats still rule the system, to a large degree. Thank goodness.)
Kim Bruning 21:13, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
category creation
hello, sorry for bothering you. i tried to create a category of "Female Composers". it seems to have created the category, but it doesn't seem to work to add entries to that category. i tried to add Pauline Oliveros by using the standard category tag, but the category does not show up on her page, nor does she show up on the category page. what did i do wrong? thanks, Jimaltieri 23:05, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
huh
I read that page... but where does it say that? Erich 06:50, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for welcoming me
Hi Sam
When I first joined Wikipedia you posted a welcoming message and a number of useful links on my discussion page. I didn't know how to thank you then, but I do now, so thank you. Jayjg 21:00, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Plurals
Plurals don't take apostrophes. It's independents, not independent's. Though O'Reilly is as right wing as the rest of them. RickK 23:14, Jul 22, 2004 (UTC)
Hello to you too
Thanks for noticing me :) Tinus 01:08, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)