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Welcome to Wikipedia!

Welcome to Wikipedia, Trisdee! I'm Celestianpower. I noticed that you were new and/or have yet to receive any messages so I just thought I'd pop in to say "hello". Hello. Wikipedia can be a little intimidating at first, since it's so big but we won't bite so Be Bold and get what you know down in microchips! If you do make a mistake, that's fine, we'll assume good faith and just correct you: it'll take a few seconds maximum! Here, however, are a few links to get you started:

There are lots of policies and guidelines to get to grips with but they all make your life easier and your stay more fun in the long run. If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or add {{helpme}} to your userpage - someone will come very, very quickly to your aid. Please be sure to sign your posts on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~) to produce your name and the current date, along with a link to your user page. This way, others know when you left a message and how to find you. It's easier than having to type out your name, right? ;)

I hope you enjoy contributing to Wikipedia. We can use all the help we can get! Have a great time, all the best, sayonara and good luck! --Celestianpower talk 17:04, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Your user page

No, it's a userpage so nearly anything goes! See Wikipedia:Userpage. Thanks! --Celestianpower háblame 18:08, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question

I'm so glad to see a professional pianist here. I've played piano for ten years...stuff like Fur Elise, some Debussy (Engulfed Cathedral)...violin is really my forte, but I'm dying to play a concerto. For violin, as I'm sure you know, there are five major concertos: Mendelssohn, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Brahams, and Sibelius. My question is: can you PLEASE tell me what is the first concerto you would recommend a pianist playing? Any general direction would be terrific, since I'm not taking lessons currently. Thank you so much, in advance.--ViolinGirl 20:05, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Trisdee! Regarding your message on ViolinGirl's talk page: When it comes to user pages, there's no such thing as "vanity". :) Add anything you want on it, as it's not in the article namespace. Hope this helps, and happy editing! See you around, Sango123 (talk) 21:01, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Trisdee, thank you SO MUCH for your advice. I cannot tell you how...(can I use the word, "precious"?) it is to me. Thank you, thank you, thank you! I look forward very much to trying the Mozart. I agree, baroque is BEAUTIFUL...Bach is always on my list (in violin), but my main piece in violin right now is Mozart's Fourth violin Concerto, so it will be good to have a corresponding composer for both. I also greatly appreciate the fact that you got back to me so quickly. What more can I say, than thank you? May I come to you if I have more questions, such as ornamentation in Bach's Goldberg Variations?
Regarding your userpage...RELAX! It's fine, it's fine...don't ever worry about vanity pages. As Sango123 said...your userpage is your userpage, and you can do practically anything you want to with it. Enjoy!
Again...I'm sorry for being so repetitive, but I honestly can't thank you enough. Grazie! Ciao!--ViolinGirl 22:37, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
PS Is the harpsichord a lot different to play from the piano?
Thank you so much for getting back to me. I really enjoy knowing I can talk to you and I can trust the advice you give me. I look forward to improving my skills on the piano on the side (while violin is my main instrument).
I had been trying to learn the Goldberg Variations, but didn't want to learn them wrong, so I was waiting for someone (like you!) to provide some guidance while I learned them. I see you have put the Aria from the Variations...I'll listen to it as soon as I get a chance. What do you think of Glenn Gould's interpretation?
Thanks for explaining about the harpsichord. I understand what you mean about it being different…it’s kind of like when piano students think they can get by with an electric keyboard...*shudder* A harpsichord is plucked with quills, right? How does “striking” a key make that work? Also, when you hold down a key on the harpsichord, what is different from when you don’t hold it down…I’m guessing maybe some felt or something stops the string when you lift your finger off the key, as in piano? I’m sorry to be asking so many questions…if I get on your nerves, don’t think about replying…I understand. I’m just so ignorant about some of these things, and I’d really like to learn more.
Well, here’s something to whet your appetite…on Thursday night, I was able to go hear Paavali Jumppanen playing Mozart’s Concerto in C Major, K. 415, and Chopin’s Sonata in B minor, Op. 58. As an encore he played Sibelius’s Impromptu in D flat major, and it was all so beautiful. Have you heard of/heard him play?
Ok, well, I guarantee I‘ll have more questions, but that’s it for now…thanks so much! Ciao!--ViolinGirl 12:40, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Wow, thanks! I didn't expect that at all! :) I am glad that you find my work worthwhile, and even enough to recognize me for it. It is with gratitude that I accept your barnstar gift. Hopefully we will work together to improve Wikipedia for a while to come. :) -Sesquialtera II 22:39, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the compliments. I was thinking about a category for Buxtehude's compositions, to place the list and individual articles into, but I wasn't sure if anyone was willing to make articles for individual works. I'm glad someone is willing :) Jashiin 20:42, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, just to let you know: I went ahead and created a category called "Compositions by Dieterich Buxtehude" (for some reason I can't link to it here, just check the list or the Membra Jesu Nostri article, I've added the category to both). Feel free to add articles to it :) Jashiin 15:21, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Düben

The Düben family is usually seen as an important part of Swedish music history, but it's not as if Gustav was yet Swedish in some ethnic sense anyway (which would mostly be an anachronism when dealing with the 17th century). BTW, are you familiar with the Düben collection?

Anyway, it seems that my correction of his birthyear may have been mistaken. Svenskt biografiskt lexikon, a standard reference work for Swedish biography, gives his birthyear as 1624, but the D volume is rather dated; the more up-to-date encyclopedia Nationalencyklopedin has 1628. Tupsharru 07:31, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!!

Wow, thank you very much for the barnstar! Its an incredible coincidence, too, since another great thing happened to me today; I've passed my final university exams! I just logged in and was going to remove the "Busy" sign (which I put there because of the exams) and start editing today when I saw your message.. so its a triple coincidence of a sort :)

About Johann Pachelbel, I'm very happy to know you like the examples, it took me a hell lot of time to make them :) I was thinking of adding 2-4 more but thought the article was becoming too detailed. Should I make a few more images or not, what do you think? Jashiin 18:16, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

Hey, no problem about taking your time in replying. I'm just grateful that you can help me occasionally.

I had a question about the Aria...I can't remember which measure it's in (don't have the music in front of me), but you know the three-note chord in the right hand somewhere in the middle of the music? Glenn Gould (the only other recording I've heard) rolls the chord from the top...is it just personal preference?

I'll take a look at your article (here on the wiki). Thanks for pointing me to it! As for Paavali Jumppanen...here's a link for you. :)

And, I got your e-mail. Sorry for the delay in my reply...I'm sort of on a WikiLeave right now, because of violin and school. So, if there's a wait...now you'll know why! :) Ciao!--ViolinGirl 20:43, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you for changing the audio file at Thaksin's page. My voice's kind of awful ^_^

I'm wondering if you can add one more file at Taksin the Great. Many people always ask what the difference between these names. Thanks. --Manop - TH 22:47, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Khun Manop, thanks a lot for your note, and please know that I didn't mean to be offensive in any way when I criticised your enunciation!! Really, I only replaced it because for some reason the first syllable was absent from the file. And thanks also for pointing out Taksin the Great — I will do as you asked. I'm not extremely proud of my voice either, though I tried my best to sound acedemic! Cheers, Trisdee 02:19, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you krub.--Manop - TH 18:01, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Esperanza!

Welcome, Trisdee, to Esperanza, the Wikipedia member association! As you might know, all the Esperanzians share one important goal: the success of this encyclopedia. Within that, we then attempt to strengthen the community bonds, and be the "approachable" side of the project. All of our ideals are held in the Charter, the governing document of the association.

Now that you are a member, you might be interested in some of our programs. A quite important program is the StressUnit, which seeks to support editors who have encountered any stress from their Wikipedia events, and are seeking to leave the project. So far, Esperanza can be credited with the support and retention of several users. We have a calendar of special events, member birthdays, and other holidays that you can add to and follow.

In addition to these projects, several more missions of Esperanza are in development, and are currently being created at Esperanza/Possibles.

I encourage you to take an active voice in the running of Esperanza. We have a small government system, headed by our Administrator general, Celestianpower, and guided by the Advisory Committee , KnowledgeOfSelf, JoanneB, Titoxd and FireFox. The elections have ended.

If you have any other questions, concerns, comments, or general ideas, Esperanzian or otherwise, know that you can always contact me via email or talk page. Alternatively, you could communicate with fellow users via our IRC channel, #wikipedia-esperanza (which is also good for a fun chat or two :). I thank you for joining Esperanza, and look forward to working with you in making Wikipedia a better place to be!

Thanks! - File:Ottawa flag.png nathanrdotcom (TCW) 21:19, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Birthday!

Happy Birthday! smurrayinchester(User), (Talk) 07:44, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

File:Esperanza.Birthday.gif
Esperanza wishes you a Happy Birthday!!
Hey, yeah, happy birthday!! :-) —Sesquialtera II (talk) 14:33, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Happy birthday, Trisdee! — Webdinger BLAH | SZ 05:40, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Happy birthday, Trisdee! Johntex\talk 07:16, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Happy birthday! Sorry I'm late :( Jashiin 09:20, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
*gasp* Wow, I am really late...but happy birthday, and welcome to Esperanza, as well. Hope everything's going well?--ViolinGirl 18:49, 19 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you for the birthday greetings, and happy birthday for yesterday! -- Francs2000 22:10, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1

Reach out is a program aimed at allowing users to bring issues that they have had in Wikipedia to a listening, sympathetic and caring audience:
"No one can know how we feel if we do not say. We cannot expect to get understanding if we do not ask for it. No one will dispute that sometimes life's issues are too much for one person. It is fair to say that sometimes Wikipedia's problems fall under the same heading. This is a place where you can bring the bruises that can sometimes be got on this project for attention."
The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them.
Note from the editor
Welcome to this new format of the Esperanza Newsletter, which came about during the last Advisory Council meeting - we hope you like it! The major changes are that each month, right after the Council meeting, this will be sent out and will include two featured programs and a sum up of the meeting. Also, it will be signed by all of the Advisory Council members, not just Celestianpower. Have an Esperanzial end of March, everyone!
  1. Future meetings are to be held monthly, not fortnightly as before.
  2. Bans and Access level changes (apart from autovoice) in the IRC channel are to be reported at the new log.
  3. In the IRC channel, there is going to be only one bot at a time.
  4. The charter requires members to have 150 edits and 2 weeks editing. Why this is the case will be clarified.
  5. A new Code of Conduct will be drafted by JoanneB and proposed to the Esperanza community.
  6. The NPA reform idea is to be dropped officially.
  7. Charter ammendments are to be discussed in future, not voted on.
  8. The Advisory Council is not going to be proposed to be expanded by the Advisory Council themselves, if others want to propose it, they will listen.
Signed...

na Patalung

Sawadee krap. Funny I haven't noticed you as an active Thai editor yet, even though I usually monitor (and also work on) the articles on Thailand a lot. When I came across Trisdee na Patalung by accident, I noticed that it is you, and you are from the "na Patalung" family. I am very interested in Thai history, and thus came across several of the "na"-families already ("na Ranong", "na Nakhon" and "na Songkhla"), but haven't yet read anything about the na Phatthalung yet. Were there any notable historical persons in your family (probably the provincial governors of Phatthalung Province), which you could find sources about? Sadly I don't speak Thai yet, so I am limited to english resources, which are often quite limited. And that it is possible collect knowledge on such normally obscure topics like minor historical persons of Thailand is IMHO a big advantage of Wikipedia. andy 11:05, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

article page

Hello, I just saw your article page (Trisdee na Patalung); Andy is (lots) faster than me as usual. Man, you're awesome. --Manop - TH 15:28, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Esperanza Newsletter #2

The Barnstar Brigade is a new program aimed at giving more very deserving yet unappreciated users barnstars. It will officially start on 2006-04-09, but signing up is encouraged before this date:
"Here in Wikipedia, there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go un-appreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go un-noticed. Sadly, these editors often leave the project. As Esperanzians, we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. A project the size of Wikipedia has thousands of editors, so there are plenty of people out there who deserve recognition, one just has to find them. The object of this program is not to flood editors with Barnstars, but to seek out people who deserve them, and make them feel appreciated."
The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them.
Information
Welcome to the second issue of the new format Esperanza Newsletter - we hope you still like it! This week, it was delivered diligently by our new dogsbody. MiszaBot (run by Misza13): any execution complaints should go to him. Content comments should be directed at the Esperanza talkpage. Thanks!
  1. The next elections: Approval voting as before and, also as before, an previous leadership member can run. Please submit your name for voting in the relevant section of this page. Voting starts on 2006-04-23 and ends on 2006-04-30. There will be three places up for grabs as KnowledgeOfSelf is leaving Wikipedia. Please see the previously linked page for full details.
  2. The Code of Conduct is now ready for extensive discussion! Specific comments should go to the Code of Conduct talk page, discussion of having one at all should be directed to the main Esperanza talk page.
  3. The current process for accepting proposals for new programs has been deemed fine. All Advisory Council members and the Admin Gen are to endevour to be bold when viewing discussion. If they feel that consensus has been reached, they will act accordingly.
A plea from the editor...
The propsed programs page is terribly underused! Please leave any comments, good or bad, on the page, to help us determine the membership's thoughts on the ideas there.
Signed...

Thanks

for signing my userpage. :) I appreciate it. I've been working on Bach's Italian Concerto for Piano lately...have you heard of/played it?--ViolinGirl 20:34, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Old Skool Esperanzial note

Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Celestianpower háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]