Talk:Tsst

Requested move

For some reason User:Spin_Boy_11 moved it from Tsst to "Tsst!". And then I f'ed it up even more... --Bahati 16:12, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

http://www.southparkstudios.com/show/display_episode.php?season=10&id1=1007&id2=150

Super Weak

Seems sucky before I've even seen this.Were supposed to be tied over for 3 monthes with this? Nimrod1234 23:36, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

I like to give Trey and Matt the benefit of the doubt and not damn their work before I've seen it. You would be wise to do the same.Bezo 16:15, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

whatever, Nimrod. Just wait and see. --murrayjames 19:28, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Well it was a great episode Ace ofspade 02:34, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Great episode!

I agree!

I was wron Nimrod1234 15:23, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, and that is because you are a nimrod!!!

My only gripe is that they're overproducing (for lack of a better term) their episodes, dating back to the opening episode of Season 9. I think South Park's charm was being able to tell so much of a story and create a real sense of action using very limited movement, not the flashy special effects and polished animation we're seeing now and saw in this episode. The storyline of this episode was great, however... especially Cartman on a leash and Cartman begging for some Colonel.

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So, is this episode going to be the last episode until October, if they follow the pattern of the past 3 seasons? --Markpregen 12:00, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Thoughts

Evil never dies...

It was kind of a gyp how super nanny went crazy and we did not get an explanationUser:MrFarenhiet 02:59, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Drawn Together devoted an entire episode a few months ago to parodying the Super Nanny character; perhaps Matt and Trey didn't feel she was fresh ground for parody anymore. As for not getting an explanation, we didn't really need one; obviously Cartman was just too much for her.Raymondluxuryacht 03:50, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

I think it is more effective because it leaves it up to the viewers imagination what Cartman did, while implying it must have been really horrible. (Worse than what he did to the first Nanny.)--DCAnderson 04:14, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree, that's similar to why the best thing to do in horror is to never fully show the monster or the gorier deaths, usually the imagination can conjure up an even worse image. Really establishes him as a sociopath of sorts.

Cartman is a master of human psychology. The question remains: Did he really change at the end? Or was he just faking it because he knew it was the only way to get rid of the Dog Whisperer, which would change his mother's personality? Orichalcon 09:48, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

I think the implication during the Altered States scene was that he really did change ("The world doesn't revolve around me?"). And he actually did seem resistant at first to his mother's attempts at spoiling him after this.("I was going to go hang out with my friends.") And the reason why he goes back is because his mom falls back on to her bad habits out of loneliness. Which is interesting, because they actually deconstruct why Cartman "is the way he is."--DCAnderson 17:06, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Of course he didn't change, he felt no remorse for killing two people and chopping them up for chili. He's like a Hannibal Lecter. Jaybob1222

Hey, now, he didn't actually kill Scott Tenorman's parents; he just contrived a way to get the farmer dude to kill them for him. Matt Gies 15:28, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Did anyone else here the very clear cuss word by Kenny when Cartman asked if he could stay at his house? I thought to myself, "It couldn't be, but it is!" Some guy that I talked to did mention that they allowed Kenny since most of his words are muffled anyway, to get away with some really bad cussing. 70.134.51.126 17:10, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Isn't two tickets to Madame Butterfly a reference to Fatal Attraction?

Was anyone reminded of A Clockwork Orange by this episode? El Oso

Yes, the very last moment before the credits. But the trivia says it's from The Omen. I haven't seen it so I wouldn't know. Seemed totally A Clockwork Orange to me. Ben 20:20, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

"finally, he passes out and drops the knife" 82.168.41.103 06:40, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Abortion section

Sorry to break the discussion about the episode, but I had a serious concern about the content of the article, namely the trivia section that compares Cartman killing his mom to abortion. I originally NPOV'd the section, before realizing that the argument didn't have much substance. The episode makes no specific allusions to abortion, and it can only be inferred that whomever added this to the article would be pro-life. The correct way to deal with this, I believe, would be to mention that it may be compared, but this brings up the argument that a fetus is a human being, which I'm sure this article is not the right place for. -Mysekurity ^[m!] 22:56, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Reset button technique

Regarding this note: Cartman's last-minute reversion to his old ways at the end of the episode may also be a parody of the reset button technique.

How is it parody? It seems to me they're just employing reset button technique (albeit doing so far more skillfully than most shows).Raymondluxuryacht 23:08, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

"Favorite Hobby"

It seemed pretty obvious to me that the "favorite hobby" of which Ceasar spoke was Liane's sex addiction. What else could the comment have meant? The two also walked off screen together just after Ceasar mentioned it. So I put that explanation back in the trivia section. Am I really just completely full of it here? Anyone care to back me up on this one? If no one agrees with me, I'll let it go, and concede that it's a stretch.--expensivehat 02:07, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

It's not a stretch, but it's kind of a red herring. I believe it's meant to suggest that he's talking about sex, since that's been her character gimmick since the series inception, but the joke is that her favorite hobby is actually chinese style painting. I believe the trivia entry should be reworked to more accurately reflect the "misdirection" nature of the joke.--Kurena1 03:10, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I can't say I agree, only because her painting is revealed some time later in the episode, after (for me at least) the hobby joke had worn off. She also says she learned how to make the paintings while Eric was out, whence we see that painting was not her favorite hobby when Ceasar mentioned it. However, it occurs to me that the trivia section is probably not there to explain all the jokes in the show which aren't so obvious, and this matter is probably too trite to merit any real debate. I think I will delete my entry soon unless somebody convinces me otherwise.--expensivehat 03:54, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I think it might have had two meanings, while at the time of the statement the implication was that her "hobby" was sex, it is later revealed that she liked painting. Given that the plot later indicates that she had given up painting when Eric was born, this hobby could not have been reflected in prior episodes and was intended to make the viewer realize that Liane was not so one dimensional after all (shame on us). Thus, the message to be taken away is that Eric's faults are attributed (in part) to his mother's failure to seek her own happiness, friends, and interests and over-devote herself to him. This is strengthed by the last scene. I've updated the artile to reflect this. Lgreen 04:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Evil Eric from Altered States, I don't think so

I disagree that Evil Eric as shown in this episode is a parady of Altered States. While evil eric is vibrating somewhat, the form shown, grotesque fatty and curvy, is clearly a parody of the devil from The Devil's Advocate, similar to the devil from The Witches of Eastwick, once each devil reveals themself. What do you all think about this?

New Pic?

This could be perhaps:

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f395/Nimrod1234/south-park-tsst-20060504070616260-0.jpg

3D

"This episode is notable for its realistic 3-D graphics and developing perspectives. This is especially evident when Cartman is taken out for a walk or pinched down to the floor."

There's not a single unusual (i.e. not front or side view) frame in the walk sequence. The pinching down sequences are unusual, but done in a style you would expect, surely not "overproduced". If you want to see a real smooth 3D sequence look at AWESOM-O, the part in the military lab when the "robot" is strapped down to a table that swivels from horizontal to vertical position.
I see your point, but the examples are wrong. --Bahati 14:56, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

The walk sequence does feature quite bit of 3D. Watch the houses, not the characters. This completely caught my attention as I can't remember another instance when SP has had the buildings be 3D before. --L T Dangerous 20:24, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

You're right, the background does seem a little 3D-ish, but I can't concentrate enough right now to see if there's some real perspective change or the houses just get smaller. In any case it would be nice to compare this with an older similar situation and then make some conclusions. But I'll bet the "most 3D" scene ever is that one in AWESOME-O! --Bahati 02:30, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Mad Max

I'll leave the Mad Max thing in there but you can tell its a direct Saw reference just like the Silence of the lambs refernece in Bebe's Boobs Destroy Society.

Never seen Mad Max, but it's certainly a Saw reference. Tying leg to a pole, poisoned blood and giving him the option to saw his leg of are all the major plotpoints of Saw. Orichalcon 05:02, 7 May 2006 (UTC)