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Copyrights again

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as Galaxy's Child (TNG episode), but we regretfully cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from either web sites or printed material. This article appears to be a direct copy from http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TNG/episode/68486.html. As a copyright violation, Galaxy's Child (TNG episode) appears to qualify for speedy deletion under the speedy deletion criteria. Galaxy's Child (TNG episode) has been tagged for deletion, and may have been deleted by the time you see this message. If the source is a credible one, please consider rewriting the content and citing the source.

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--Sherool (talk) 21:45, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

10047 What's the link between 10047 and New York City? Just curious. Ta, --OscarTheCattalk 10:38, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The connnection is that 10047 is one of New York City's zip codes. Chuck 10:41, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

100.. articles

I've just speedy deleted a few articles you created along this format, since they only had the comment "this zip code does not represent an area". I really don't think we need an encyclopaedia article for every number which does not correspond to a valid U.S. zip code. --PeruvianLlama(spit) 10:47, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Egads - looks after looking at your contributions, I see you have made quite a few such edits. I think this probably falls under Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. --PeruvianLlama(spit) 10:49, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
While these are not actual articles per se, they are only redirects to where the zip code represents. I think that people would find it helpful to be able to view a city or town by zip code. Chuck 10:54, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Whoah. What you propose would mean thousannds of new articles in wikipedia if adopted by other areas too. Not sure this is a good idea. --OscarTheCattalk 10:57, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've also speedy deleted a few. Please refrain from adding articles with next to no content thanks. -- Longhair 10:56, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Very Well

I understand how that many articles could not be good, I guess. I'll stop adding these articles. Thanks for all the input. Chuck 11:00, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. And you might have already done this, but maybe have a look at the zip code and List of ZIP Codes in the United States articles to see if there's anything there you might want to contribute. Cheers. --PeruvianLlama(spit) 11:04, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removing content warnings

This has been discussed at length several times. [1] [2] [3] [4]. Please do not create censorship forks and content labeling messages. It's not our place to decide that. — Feb. 17, '06 [01:47] <freakofnurxture|talk>

I don't know if you are attempting to bait me into a knee-jerk response, but in any case I refuse to be manipulated. In response to your question, "No, because child pornography is illegal in the United States of America, where Wikipedia servers are physically located, and for no other reason." The prisoner abuse photos document a crime, but documenting a crime does not, in itself, make them offensive pictures. There is, of course, one exception to this, which is, as alluded by your strawman argument, the crime of child molestation. — Feb. 17, '06 [02:58] <freakofnurxture|talk>

Based on what wording? Again, stop putting words in my mouth, I don't appreciate it. — Feb. 17, '06 [03:15] <freakofnurxture|talk>

It would obviously be inappropriate for me to block anybody in connection with this article as I have already demonstrated that I have strong opinions on it. As for "stopping at two reverts" I mean I will not proceed onto a third or fourth. — Feb. 17, '06 [03:23] <freakofnurxture|talk>


Three revert rule

You have been blocked for 24 hours under the three revert rule. If you wish to appeal please contact another administrator or the mailing list.Geni 04:44, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I guess it would have been prudent to find out about this rule, before learning about it the hard way. Anyway, job's done and the article is getting worse and worse. Chuck 08:43, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not censor wikipedia. The American government may try to censor these images in the US but this gives you no right to censor them on wikipedia--Mushobe10 16:33, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please know what you're talking about before you write on my page. Last time I looked, a warning about disturbing images is not censorship, simply courtesy. Unfortunately, the sick minded people that run this place prevailed and the warning is gone. Isn't that censorship, by censoring the fact that there are grotesque pictures in the article. That's more against the rules than what I was doing. But go ahead and have fun looking at your pictures of abuse and toture. Chuck 19:21, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I resent being called a sick-minded person. Since you are unfamiliar with our policies, please also read "no personal attacks". — Feb. 17, '06 [19:47] <freakofnurxture|talk>

Abu Ghraib

Thanks for your comments on my talk page. The stuff regarding the images on Abu Ghraib is interesting; it appeared that the debate moved beyond dealing with the individual article and towards the Ideology of Wikipedia. People seemed concerned that we would have to provide image-free versions of a number of other pages. I disagree with this; Auschwitz need only have its images removed if someone asked for it to be done. I understand the POV of the editors who were worried about setting a prescedent, but who says we need to be consistent? Kurt Godel seems to suggest that consistency is impossible, anyway. We ain't lawyers...--James Kemp 23:34, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Raymond Samuels

Hi Chuck. I have put a 24 block on User:209.226.117.80 and asked some other admins to look at the situation (which doesn't seem very acceptable). Please in future remember the 3 revert rule which I see you and a few others have broken tonight in combating the vandalism. Placing a note at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism breifly explaining the situation is sure to get you pretty quick administrator attention. I note the anon user doesn't seem to be responding to my request to explain exactly what their problem is. --Martyman-(talk) 10:47, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I wasn't sure wether the 3RR applied to reverting vandalism too. I had asked some people, but didn't get a response. Thanks for letting me know, and in the furture I will make a mention on the Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Chuck 10:49, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There is an exemption of the 3RR for simple vandalism. The question is is this simple vandalism? I would be inclinde to say no, because if you believe in good faith the anon editor was not acting to be disruptive but out of concern for what they believe are inacurate facts. I don't know really. I have only been an admin for two days after all. Anyway good luck with it when his block runs out tomorrow. ;-) --Martyman-(talk) 10:59, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

cAPS lOCK

cAN YOU POINT ON YOUR EXACT PROBLEM? 88.154.5.22 11:02, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

aNSWER OR I'LL UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT AND RE-EDIT THE PAGE. 88.154.5.22 11:04, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the delay, but I believe that leetspeak is a unique and interesting form of writing, whereas capslock is not. I don't think that caps is something that would improve his page. Chuck 11:14, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Warning message

No problem :) FireFoxT • 11:36, 26 February 2006

Thanks

Thanks for reverting my user page! -- Vary | Talk 03:31, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem

Always looking for good stuff to add, and it's kinda neat to have two space-related stories up there. :)

Current Events: GMU vs Florida

Why not? KI 23:48, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia survey

Hi. I'm doing a survey of Wikipedia editors as part of a class research project. It's quick, anonymous, and the data will be made available to the Wikipedia community later this month. Would you like to take part? More info here. Thanks! Nonplus 00:26, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not re-create {{good article}}. It was deleted following a TFD discussion. Also, displaying metadata such as this would represent a policy change and substantial discussion and agreement should take place first. Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Good articles#The good article tag on main article space, among other places, for more information. — Knowledge Seeker 04:21, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just wanted to add that I do like the idea of WP:GA and I support its continued development. For now I'm going to rollback the template additions to the main space until there is further agreement for this sort of policy change. I hope you'll be able to help out the project identify and improve good articles. — Knowledge Seeker 04:25, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No, don't worry; I took care of it for you. I do appreciate your initiative and I'm sure you'll find other ways to help the Wikiproject. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! — Knowledge Seeker 04:29, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry about it; that's my job. It's not possible to keep up to speed on all matters simultaneously. I see you're studying aerospace engineering and that you've been contributing to some of the space exploration–related articles. I'm glad to see it; we could always use more editors specializing in this area. Space exploration is a fascination of mine, though of course I'm an amateur and could not hope to know the matter in much depth. — Knowledge Seeker 04:37, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:LinkGA-star.png listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded, Image:LinkGA-star.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.

FACFailed

For the record... When the template was added by User:MarcK, and also when I removed it, the link pointing to "its nomination subpage" was red, making the template completely useless. This was part of a massive bulk-add of such useless templates to Talk pages, which struck me and other editors as vandalistic. While I am glad that the linking issue is now fixed, I don't take particularly kindly to your implied assertion that I removed the edit out of ignorance or carelessness; when removed, it was as useless as my edit summary stated. Perhaps I should have fixed the template instead of simply removing it, but then that responsibility really falls on the editor who added the template in the first place; and frankly, I don't think that even the fixed version adds much information.

In any case, thanks for making sure that the templates are now blue-linked and somewhat less useless than before. Cheers! -- Visviva 13:48, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you bother to read my usrpage

Most of it's boring ;D! 68.39.174.238 01:37, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(386)Enh... It doesn't matter that much, it's a public display so I can't really complain if people DO read it ;D! 68.39.174.238 14:27, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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User talk:172.144.50.56

Sorry, thats the first time that has ever happened. I confess, I copied your no personal attack message. :) I wont be likely to try that again, Was that a template that you used for your message? Ansell 06:07, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi thank you for joining the WikiProject. There is still plenty of scope for influencing things and making your contribution count. We are about establishing standards for Novel based articles and writing articles that meet our own and others high standards, and to improve Wikipedia's diet of articles on Fiction books, otherwise called Novels. If you have any questions, do ask. Please be very welcome. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 08:10, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

reply

I see what you mean about the photo overlapping the template. I hadn't noticed that before. It's generally better to address the issue by changing the template itself, as I did here. Inserting an arbitrary number of <br> linebreaks is not good, because not everybody uses the same browser or font size. What may appear to be "fixing an overlap" for one user could be "creating a large, unnecessary gap" for another user. Look at the article again, it should appear correctly now. — Apr. 23, '06 [03:00] <freakofnurxture|talk>

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Why?

Any reason you nominated templet spoiler for deletion? Happy editing- Banana04131 03:22, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • I think that your reason is quite clear. Thanks for trying to keep the wikipedia honest and consistent (even though I voted to keep).--Eva db 09:06, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're Welcome...

Chuck, thanks for the reply. I've just joined Esperanza, and its nice to already be helping to encourage wikipedians and make this a happier place. Thanks. (PS - It's pretty early/late in Illinois right now, isn't it?)--Eva db 09:13, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bust that stress...

Hello, Chuck. Just wanted to drop by in the hope that your stress has gone down a notch or two. My advice is don't take any comments that could be construed as attacks or assumptions of bad faith to heart. People who write comments like the ones you bemoan on your Esperanza alert would probably equally bemoan such behaviour if they were on the receiving end. My advice is keep a lively sense of the ridiculous, and keep your standards up by refusing to respond in kind! While I have no strong feelings about the keeping or deletion of the spoiler template, I commend your effort in nominating it if you feel strongly about it. Best wishes, RobertGtalk 11:44, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Star Trek Titan

Hey, just wanted to say thanks for your work on Star Trek: Titan, and the good commuinication about editing issues. I went back to the article tonight and saw loads of new stuff and loved it. Keep up the good work, Chuck 08:48, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

I think about 40% of my edits are to talk pages. I think they're woefully underused and nothing bugs me more than people making conflicting edits and using (if anything) only the summaries to communicate with each other. The Titan article's not so bad, but after having edited a number of more controversial pages on this and other wikis, I like to take full advantage of the talk pages because no one person has all the answers and/or best ideas. - Hayter 05:29, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The reason half of the people voting refer to WP:POINT...

...is that you have strongly implied in a number of places that your actual problem with the spoiler template is that you disagree about the presentation of images in the Abu Ghraib article. A better place to air your concerns on improper images would be one of the policy pages. Further, your nom states that the tag is censorship but does not explain. Per the voting page, none of us is able to find the connection that you see. Thanks MilesVorkosigan 16:29, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks..

Thanks for your advice and your time. I'd assumed the user in question was manic dpressive, but your theory sounds good too. Have a great day.--Eva db 14:34, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'm manic-depressive. That's why my mood changes when I want it to. I treated you decent when you acted decent; when you returned to old form and broke trust...then I let it be known that I wasn't going to put up with it anymore. You've had so many chances, preferring to blow it all. You've asked me time and again. I gave you answers. You ignored the fact that you brought up requests for discussion, so you discussed nothing but the same drivel and missing the point--over and over again. I'm sorry, but you've pushed my patience beyond normal limits. Thickheaded? See my User discussion page; look at the userbox trifecta and what it means. Eva, don't you dare bother me again! IP Address 20:30, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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