User talk:Netoholic

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Feel free to ask me anything the links and talk pages don't answer. You can sign your name by typing 4 tildes, likes this: ~~~~.

Cheers, Sam [Spade] 04:11, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Ships and models

There are right ways and wrong ways to do things here, and with ship model you did two wrong things. First, you ignored the history, which would have told you that somebody had already thought about the situation and made an informed decision (namely that "ship model" is more common and has been that way for centuries). Second, you changed it by cut-n-paste, which destroys important article history. I'm going to revert your changes, and then we can continue the discussion on the articles' talk pages, which is the right way to proceed. Stan 05:12, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

The only option is cut-n-paste because model ship already exists - can't do a move. Now then, all I see is your (one person's) opinion in the Talk page. Google is not the gold standard as far as article naming here. Model ship is more frequently linked to than Ship model here on WP. It also fall in line with other modeling categories like model car, model aircraft, and model car. -- Netoholic 05:19, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Actually, Google is a pretty good standard for this kind of usage, not to mention that my personal library has books with titles like Historic Ship Models and Ship Models: How to Build Them, not to mention that the usage in the other books of my personal library is always "ship model". Standard usage trumps consistency with the other johnny-come-lately modelling specialties. :-) Cut-n-paste is not an acceptable option to change things, the existence of the redir just means you have to convince a sysop to delete the redir - thus my recommendation to discuss first. I'm happy to get other opinions, but if there are no other WPers with encyclopedic knowledge of ship modelling, I think it's reasonable to expect my opinion to outweigh all other (my personal library of ship modelling material is about 30 volumes, not counting magazines - does anybody else have more?) Stan 05:42, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Paper & pencil games

Hi there! "Pencil and paper game moved to Paper and pencil game" -- could you explain why please? Thanks. -- Tarquin 09:40, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Added a discussion in Talk:Paper_and_pencil_game. Reconsidering, I don't feel there is much value in the article at all. -- Netoholic 15:42, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Shuffling

There you go, shuffling playing cards is now at shuffling. Adam Bishop 04:02, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Ford

Hi, I hope to continue our discussion on Talk:Ford Motor Company. If you don't reply there, I'll count you as convinced and readd the section tomorrow. You're always free to edit. Best wishes, [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 16:17, 2004 Jul 21 (UTC)

Subpages

Hi, thanks for fixing up my attempt at a subpage. I was still figuring how to do it right.--Bishonen 07:56, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Speedy deletions

I've redirected A Song of Ice and Fire (card Game) and merged the history with A Song of Ice and Fire (card game). See When should we delete a redirect?. It's best to redirect misspelt, or miscapitalized pages, especially if they were created quite a while ago since it is possible there are external links pointing to it. Angela . 16:33, Aug 5, 2004 (UTC)

Northern California Indian Development Council

I don't mind that you took things out of this entry. I believe all of it was verbatim from the website. However, it was not my entry originally, I know extremely little about it, and did not think another floor fight at the VfD page would have been appropriate. This is not my normal style of entries. Skyler 17:16, Aug 9, 2004 (UTC)

Spoiler template

Why did you change this? I find the newer one to be much more unattractive. Mike H 23:15, Aug 9, 2004 (UTC)

It still needs work. The message still gets lost in some articles (like Galactus and Rubik's Cube#Workings. Feel free to make improvements. -- Netoholic 23:18, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Sorry about aligns

Hey, I should apologize for adding all those align="center"s to headings. Firefox renders them as left aligned, which is probably a bug. Anyways, thats why I kept using align="center", sorry for the confusion. —siro χ o 02:20, Aug 12, 2004 (UTC)

Your table heading was not centered for me, I think i'll report the bug in firefox after a couple pure html tests (not in wikipedia). —siro χ o 02:30, Aug 12, 2004 (UTC)

Spoiler template again

Hi Netholic, It looks like you approve of having the box in the spoiler template. Could I urge you to explain why on the talk page, at the moment the preponderance of opinion seems to be get rid of it (I confess I have that opinion). But it would be good to get your view on the talk page. Thanks. Pcb21| Pete 17:06, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

TV series

Moved to Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (television)

Broken template

... on Winston Churchill? Are you sure? That was the page I was using as a benchmark. What was the problem?
James F. (talk) 20:01, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Ah, that. Yes, that's your fault - the br-tags with "clear="all"' on them. :-) Will fix.

James F. (talk) 20:11, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)

s/br-tags with/CSS styles/

It's been a long editing session.

20:44, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Monobook and Classic, on Mozilla and Opera, on Windows and Mac OS X.

What broken browser are you using? ;-)

James F. (talk) 21:57, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Diana picture

Please tell us whether your information box pic on Diana, Princess of Wales is public domain, fair use, copyright or whatever. Just click on the pic, then on Edit this Page and enter the details. Thanks - Adrian Pingstone 08:10, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Chief Technical Officer

I take it that the capitalization note I left on the CTO talk page made absolutely no impression whatsoever? Stan 18:40, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Category:Occupations

I just left a lengthier response on why the current Category:Occupations subcategories should go. I don't think it's a bad idea to look to preexisting classification systems as guidance, but the SOCS groupings and header names are too arbitrary and cumbersome for our purposes. I do of course think that there should be an effective subcategory hierarchy of occupations, but let's devise a proper one that will be clear to use and read. Postdlf 18:57, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Sabrina Le Beauf

Hey. Imdb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0494058/) has a space in her last name. Rick K 23:03, Aug 22, 2004 (UTC)

I was the one who moved that, actually. I didn't remember any spaces in the Cosby Show reruns I saw, but if I'm wrong, hey, move it back. Mike H 23:05, Aug 22, 2004 (UTC)

Mapquest Template

You know, traditionally, postal address are in the format of address, city, state, zip code, country. I think the template should be put in that format, it's less confusing and easier to remember.

So it be something like {{mapquest|address=|city=|state=|zip=|country=|text=}} -- Allyunion 14:30, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Mintguy

I see you even saw fit to remove my comments from the Outside View section, which was completely outside of your purview to do. That's a REALLY good way to be blocked from editing. Rick K 19:14, Aug 24, 2004 (UTC)

I think it's clear from my comments on on your talk page that I was preserving format only. I encourage your comments on the page, but please be fair, even if you disagree with the RFC itself. -- Netoholic (Talk) 19:38, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I reworded my comment on Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Mintguy a bit, but I still think that your effort of cleaning up the page threw out the baby with the bath water. Together with the IMHO unreasonable accusations, this makes YOU look bad, and not Mintguy. -- Chris 73 Talk 23:48, Aug 24, 2004 (UTC)

RFC

Do you really think Mintguy is a bad admin or are you just trying to get back at him over this TV series thing? The timing seems very bad. Regarding 3 reverts - my view is that no one should ever make more than 3, regardless of whom they are reverting or whether it is vandalism, but a lot of people feel there should be exceptions to this, and the policy never even reached a consensus of support, so you can't really RfC someone for doing more than 3. Angela . 01:04, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC)

Boots of speed

From your edit comment:

"Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a game reference. Check out Wikibooks:Main Page"

I'm well aware of current policies on What Wikipedia is not. It is not excluded on the basis of that page, nor is it excluded by precedence: The item "Boots of speed" is far more famous than a particular Pokémon, and it is generally accepted that Wikipedia can (and does, in most cases) have a page on each.

A Google search reveals 6,440 mentions of "boots of speed".

In any case, I didn't write Boots of speed as a game reference, but as an encyclopaedic article. I even included a mention of boots of speed in historical folklore (which I intend to expand).

··gracefool |☺ 05:07, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Many people do not agree with the Pokemon entries either. Check out what's being said about D&D articles on this Vote for deletion page - Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Bulls strength. -- Netoholic (Talk) 05:13, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Thanks. I've commented there. This is a general policy that really needs to be made clear. ··gracefool |☺ 05:29, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Cheers, seven-league boots is a better article. ··gracefool |☺ 07:30, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

RfC

Here's my thoughts on the deletion charges: Doughboy sounds like patent nonsense which is CSD#1. Category:World War II campaigns and theaters was a duplicate category. The policy on category deletion is still being discussed, but as far as I am aware, this is not a controversial deletion because you can't redirect categories, so empty ones already replaced by something else can only be deleted. The Conservative Party (UK), Hove and Herbert Stanley Morrison still exist, so perhaps these were only temporary deletes for page moves? Pages are allowed to be deleted for such technical reasons as page moves. The Five-a-side football one was possibly a bit dubious. Angela . 16:50, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC)

You doing no more than making youself look foolish. I pity you. Mintguy (T)

Five-a-side

Here's the complete history:

(Deleted revision as of Aug 2, 2004)

I think Five-a-side football is what called Futsal, a Fotball/Soccer that play in a small field with six or five player and very populer nowdays. Five-a-side phrase is use to in football but in training mode.

(Deleted revision as of Aug 3, 2004)

# REDIRECT Futsal

13:36, 12 Aug 2004 Mintguy deleted "Five-a-side football" (five-a-side football is not futsal, :futsal is a type of five-a-side-football)
21:01, Aug 3, 2004 . . Niteowlneils (#REDIRECT Futsal)
14:12, Aug 2, 2004 . . 202.155.19.9 ()

Please note that the proper place for disputable deletions is VfU, not RfC since a questionable decision is not usually an abuse of power. If someone is regularly making decisions that are overturned at VfU, then you could consider an RfC, but I've yet to see evidence that Mintguy is doing this regularly. Angela . 22:37, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC)

D+D deities

Dieties of Dungeons & Dragons is mostly redudant with list of Forgotten Realms deities, but not entirely. D+D does not have deities -- it is a set of rules which can be played in various settings. Most of the gods you are combining are part of the Forgotten Realms setting, but some are not (I think). In any case, why not have a separate article for each? There's plenty of material, and combining them, even just the Forgotten Realms deities, will be way too long for a single article anyway. Tuf-Kat 04:58, Aug 26, 2004 (UTC)

Deities of Dungeons & Dragons

I am sure you meant Deities of Dungeons & Dragons, not Dieties of Dungeons & Dragons, right? -- Chris 73 Talk 05:06, Aug 26, 2004 (UTC)

Medusa

Whoops, sorry about that, wasn't paying attention! The Singing Badger 15:01, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

(8/26/2004)

Hi, you might be interested in the Administrator Accountability Policy proposal. Also, could you please respond to this email on wikien-l about where you got Image:Mahatma Gandhi.jpg from. Thanks. Angela . 17:20, Aug 26, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, I will look into that, and also get back on the image. AFAIK, it is expired copyright of KEYSTONE pictures. -- Netoholic @ 23:22, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Hi Netoholic, I've now also emailed the enquiring user and told him that I was going to ask you to respond to him. The email I wrote is here. Ropers 07:54, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Fictional subjects policy

Hi Netoholic. Your input and criticism on which fictional subjects deserve articles of their own would be appreciated at Wikipedia:Articles about fiction. ··gracefool |☺ 23:27, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Okay, I've done a major rewrite of the policy - I was approaching it in the wrong way. It is no longer a poll, but an attempt to reach a consensus. It is also more general, basically an amendment to Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. It is now called Wikipedia:Importance, and discussion (including your proposed policy) is moved to the talk page. ··gracefool |☺ 06:01, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I am RickK and I state the obvious

You know that everything shows up on Recent Changes and in the article history, right? Rick K 23:33, Aug 26, 2004 (UTC)

Yes.... do you want a cookie? -- Netoholic @ 23:37, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

LOL. Rick K 23:48, Aug 26, 2004 (UTC)

Unactive Pod (Lilo & Stitch)

Dear Netholic,

I have moved Experiments 119, 611, and 628 to the above article. However, I need help redirecting experiments 611 and 628 to that article.

Thanks.

BigT27 03:11, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Music timeline

Thanks on the Template:MusicTimeline -- that's exactly what I wanted it to look like! Tuf-Kat 05:34, Aug 27, 2004 (UTC)