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The entire cast of the 2004 film Primer no longer have have infinite Bacon numbers - "Samantha Thomson was in World Without Waves (2001) with ..."

I agree with Tolo - Kevin Bacon isn't famous because of the game - it's famous because of him. I have edited the opening sentence to reflect this.Tellkel 23:25, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Forgive me, but is Kevin Bacon only famous because of this Trivia (as the page currently says)? Personally, I doubt it. Possibly reword? Tolo 08:42, Sep 5, 2004 (UTC)

I was just wondering... What is the significance of the Bacon number? Does it only have to do with the game "Six Degrees Of Kevin Bacon", or is there some other application for it? thefamouseccles 08:02 2 Dec 2003 (UTC)

"we can find two actors with a Rufus Shafter number of 15." Nice, but I don't see the connection to the Bacon Number. Is the article trying to say that using Rufus Shafter numbers, we can find people with a higher finite number?

"By contrast, the average Bacon number is 2.943." How can the average be around 3000 with 8 being the highest finite number known?

62.45.129.214 11:49, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

That's a decimal point, not a thousands separator. --Angr/(comhrá) 23:01, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Can someone reword/explain what is written bellow. "record largest finite bacon number by year"? What does that mean? Why is 1998 "all 7s"? but 1997 is just 7? A bacon number of 7?

Actors with record largest finite Bacon number by year Year Record 1996 7 1997 7 1998 all 7s 1999 8 2000 all 8s Dec 2000 9, 10 Jul 2003 all 8s

Fun stuff

Some specific noteworthy people of interest:

Ronald Reagan has a Kevin Bacon number of 2:

  1. Ronald Reagan was in Young Doctors, The (1961) with Eddie Albert
  2. Eddie Albert was in Big Picture, The (1989) with Kevin Bacon

Adolf Hitler has a Kevin Bacon number of 3.

  1. Adolf Hitler was in Ewige Jude, Der (1940) with Curt Bois
  2. Curt Bois was in Great Sinner, The (1949) with Kenneth Tobey
  3. Kenneth Tobey was in Hero at Large (1980) with Kevin Bacon

Pope John Paul II has a Kevin Bacon number of 4.

  1. Pope John Paul II was in Padre Pio - Tra cielo e terra (2000) with Giovanni Lombardo Radice
  2. Giovanni Lombardo Radice was in Gangs of New York (2002) with Martin Scorsese
  3. Martin Scorsese was in Bringing Out the Dead (1999) with Arthur J. Nascarella
  4. Arthur J. Nascarella was in In the Cut (2003) with Kevin Bacon

thought someone might find this interesting...  ALKIVAR™ 01:16, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]


I'd suggest William Rufus Shafter has a Bacon Number of 7:

1 William Rufus Shafter - Surrender of General Toral - Joseph Wheeler

2 Joseph Wheeler - General Wheeler and Secretary of War Alger at Camp Wikoff - Russell Alexander Alger

3 Russell Alexander Alger - President McKinley's Inspection of Camp Wikoff - William McKinley

4 William McKinley - Fifty Years Before Your Eyes - Charles Chaplin

5 Charles Chaplin - The Great Dictator - Don Brodie

6 Don Brodie - Murphy's Law - David Hayman

7 David Hayman - Where the Truth Lies - Kevin Bacon

Lidless

Note: The entire cast of the 2004 film Primer have infinite Bacon numbers


Reeve vs. Steiger

The page has been edited to indicate that Christopher Reeve, not Rod Steiger, is the best center in IMDb - a claim also appearing on the page for Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon. I assume this information comes from IMDbPro, which calculates Bacon numbers and perhaps similar statistics for other actors. Can anyone verify that Reeve currently has the lowest number? This seems odd, since he doesn't even make the top 1000 best centers on the Oracle of Bacon list [1]. --Ben Zimmer 19:03, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was unable to confirm the info using IMDb, IMDbPro, Google. So I've removed it for now. IMDbPro does not appear to compute data concerning "centers", only the standard Bacon number. Because of this, I find the claim that the info was on IMDb somewhat suspect. I also removed the IMDbPro link, as I couldn't see anything relevant to the article that wasn't already available (freely) from the Oracle of Bacon site. --Chan-Ho (Talk) 01:16, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've also changed the info at Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon, where the info apparently originated. I will ask the editor who added the info where he got it. --Chan-Ho (Talk) 01:29, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I find it hard to believe Rod Steiger is better connected than Christopher Lee. My understanding was that he is the best connected actor (who would anecdotal appear to have appeared in more films, in a greater variety of roles with more actors from both European and American cinema).
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