Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BoastMachine

The BoastMachine article was apparently created by its sole programmer. Only edits are to this article and to add a link to it from PHP. When assessing notability please keep in mind that software can easily get very many Google hits without being notable, especially if its creator is so keen on free advertising. Delete. —Rory ☺ 00:15, Sep 8, 2004 (UTC)

Keep and improve - certainly needs cleanup (de-POV, better prose), but 5400 Google hits seems to say that there is at least some notability. This was VfD'd within the first few hours of existence, and we should see if it can turn into something informative. -- Netoholic @ 01:27, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- I wouldn't list so soon except that it's clearly an ad written by its developer. Like I said, it's trivially easy to get thousands of hits for software. Most of those hits will be directories or user-submitted data. —Rory ☺ 01:35, Sep 8, 2004 (UTC)
  - Why not remove what you consider to be advertising, and add factual information. Try contacting the author and encourage them to make the improvements. -- Netoholic @ 01:41, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Delete, Wikipedia is not Freshmeat. I don't care what the content of the article is currently, or how quickly it was listed on VfD, or what might be added to it or improved - Votes For Deletion is about the topic, not the content, and some kid's free software project is not encyclopedic, no matter what you write in the article. —Stormie 01:52, Sep 8, 2004 (UTC)
Delete: I saw this earlier on New Page patrol and considered it very carefully. It is advertising and, as it were, programmer vanity. For those reasons, delete. If the program (which is the solution to all your needs!) gets notable, we will need an article on it, but now it's just one contender among thousands. Geogre 04:02, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Delete. WikiSpam for non-notable blogging software. — Gwalla | Talk 04:24, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Delete. Lacrimosus 05:56, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Opinion. A quick Google search [1] suggests that this PHP plug is used by 39 other sites. Regarding the codes, there are some non-standard codings and I hope the author will improve it. As the author is young (16), he may not be aware of some Wikipedia policies. *But*, if Wikipedia can room WordPress, I don't think this article should be deleted. --Rrjanbiah 08:33, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Reads like a programmers diary, and isn't NPOV. There's about four lines that should be kept if this is a program of note. I don't see any of the 39 other sites being that important - the websites don't appear that notable, the number isn't very large, and web-related software is by nature going to be more visible in a web search. I'd need more convincing that the program is important, delete if no further evidence of note can be provided. Average Earthman 09:24, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I have rephrased it now. Do you still dispute POV? --Rrjanbiah 14:32, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Delete. Ambi 12:55, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Delete. Not notable. FWIW, WordPress gets nearly 2 million hits. "This was VfD'd within the first few hours of existence..." well, duh, most VfD listings come from Recent Changes or New Pages patrol, so that's normal. If it suddenly becomes notable tomorrow, I'm sure we'll hear about it then. Niteowlneils 13:27, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- VfD listings should not come from Newpages. Its unfair, as many good articles today had really bad first versions. Every article needs a start, and if a newbie comes and adds a page (badly written as it is), we should try to fix it. Otherwise, it will and does discourage new editors. -- Netoholic @ 14:15, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  - Should I use the "Random Page" button instead? Terrapin 14:21, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  - I found this, as I find most articles, via Special:Randompage. I don't think it makes the slightest bit of difference how old it is, how well written it is, how POV it is or anything else. As long as the software isn't notable (and it isn't) it shouldn't be here. —Rory ☺ 16:58, Sep 8, 2004 (UTC)
Delete. Not notable. Andris 13:30, Sep 8, 2004 (UTC)
Delete: not notable, advert. Wile E. Heresiarch 14:45, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
In my opinion 39 sites using boastMachine in less than a year is fairly well for a project run by an individual teenager. Besides the article isn't an advert anymore. Keep. --ZeroOne 15:26, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Agreed, that is pretty good for an individual teenager. So is scoring 1450 in the SATs at 13 or getting a masters degree at 21. Do my friends and I get our own articles? To give some perspective, I personally know several people who have written complete content managers for blogs. —Rory ☺ 16:58, Sep 8, 2004 (UTC)
Delete - vanity - Tεx τ urε 17:05, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)