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 Insults in rhyming couplet will be kept and treasured forever.

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Personal

  • Einstein's Dreams per Mindspillage.

Longer term

  • WP:FICT - check wording on "minor characters" since it appears to be used in manner contrary to spirit. • Read about triumvirate

Maintainance

Clean up aisle five



Ok, I'm though pouting, but I'm still cranky. - brenneman {L} 08:23, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Trigger Happy

Dear Administrator: I, like you, am an editor; I create articles and make edits. But, many, I am sure many other people out there, are tired, frustrated and angry with the behavior of many Administrators. I am certain that it is appallingly easy to revert an article, that someone has undoubtedly spent allot of time and effort writing. I have, in the past spent hours, researching, planning, writing, checking and revising an addition to an article only to have the whole lot deleted forever three minutes afterwards.

I know that deletion of material is essential in a free-to-edit encyclopedia, but if you see an article that someone has anonymously devoted their time to writing, why could you not revise it, change it or give a reason for you action? They deserve one.

I know all Administrators are not all Drunk-With- Power-Trigger-Happy-Nazis, many of you do an excellent job and you know who you are. The world owes you. I owe You.

In closing: Create, don’t Destroy. Make a distinction between “what is right, and what is easy”. Be enriched and enrich others with the knowledge of other people.

And keep that finger off the trigger.

Dfrg.msc 01:44, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oi

You're not leaving that easily! C'mon, lad, there's work to be done. Hup, hup, hup!

(my email is over there <------ somewhere) Mark Gallagher 14:29, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You never struck me as the huffy type. What's up? At least come and talk about it. --Doc ask? 22:03, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Give him some time guys, I know how he feels, or felt. I needed the entire month of May to remove the stink of corruption here from my life. Karmafist Save Wikipedia 02:42, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh why everyone is leaving, this is just horrible, u, SlimVirgin, Phaedriel, possibly Linuxbeak, for what, a bunch of idiots like Brandt trying to control this site. I give up as well, this is too much, the community is just breaking apart because of this. Jaranda wat's sup 04:35, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm just a newbie that happened to cross paths with you a few times, but while I wouldn't call you the most level-headed--I thought you brought valid insight into discussion. I wish you the best in all endeavours. Kotepho 19:20, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Brenny hasn't deleted all his pages, just archived them in a bit of a nonstandard way. I think he got stressed and is taking a bit of a break. He's done it before after all. I have every expectation he'll be back.. the taking one's ball and going home bit isn't his style. All IMHO of course, and with every wish for a restful and relaxing recharge. ++Lar: t/c 05:14, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Montsalvat Article

Thanks! I do agree it needs more sources, but I am having difficulty finding some, I disagree that sources close to the subject arnt as reliable as one further from it, it's just that they can't be as trusted most of the time, and any other sources information would have to be obtained directly (or worse, indirectly) from the subject (ex: sigmund jorgensen) and then it becomes second hand or third hand information, it isnt as good as first hand information.

I do agree though that if more sources can be found on things to do with Montsalvat other than its history, they would perhaps be better than the source of sigmund jorgensen himself, but for the history, I think you can't beat the son of the guy who founded the colony, unless those who were a part of it back then were still alive and wanted to share their info.

I created the article about "A symphony of mud and stone" because it is a real book that exists and thought I'd supply all the info I could about that source, but if it isnt as many here say noteworthy then I wont complain if it gets deleted. The articles must be neutral but the editors can be brutal, is that the way it goes? if so, very sad.

Thanks for bringing these things to my attention and for taking interest in the article, but mostly for providing some positive feedback! Its all well and good to say object and then say whats wrong with it...yeah? well what needs to be done to make it better?? I get frustrated with some editors on wikipedia somtimes I do.

The photos are okay I have some better ones and if I ever have time I'll update them, and I apologise for the late reply cause our internet connection died a few days ago. Nick carson 06:35, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tony and the RfC

Hey, I just got your e-mail, after I submitted a request to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR. You can see it on the bottom there. AmiDaniel won't block him, but does feel that there is some aspect of 3RR going on. He thinks it would be better to block for something like WP:POINT and/or for causing a disruprion. In any case you are free to do as you please, but if you want to look, all the diffs are at AN/3RR. Later, Chuck(척뉴넘) 07:06, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My userpage

Heya,

I see that on the 30th you changed a word on my userpage. However, I feel that the original word is more appropriate. The picture doesn't look silly. It looks gay. :) No, really, it does, and I totally admit that (but by no means is that to be taken as me implying my own homosexuality, which does not exist). Search4Lancer 22:26, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your archives

Is there a reason why you don't link to your archives from here? Its relatively easy to put an {{archivebox}} or just links so that people can have easy access to them? Ansell 04:36, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ansell:I've reverted your change to Aaron's user pages. People do not HAVE to make easy convenient archives if they do not wish to. This page was blanked by Aaron for his own reasons, well within his aegis to do so if he wants to as long as he's not ignoring warnings or whatever. He's on break, he can blank the page completely if he so desires. I am sure he'll revert me if he does not agree with my reversion. ++Lar: t/c 02:15, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I heard back from Aaron via email, but I wasn't quite able to parse out what he was telling me, whether he wanted it left that way or not. So I dunno. ++Lar: t/c 05:49, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Block

If you don't return to editing soon, I'll be forced to reblock your account. You must ask permission to leave you know.--MONGO 06:06, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

...and I'll UNblock him! Ooh! Wheel War! YES! I'll be flying the rouge flag before you know it! ++Lar: t/c 13:49, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you that really helped me.

I am very thankful for your email, it has really helped me through this, thank you very much. ILovePlankton 04:35, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Huff

I am happy that you changed your mind.
Because as an admin, you're quite a find.
We appreciate your civil attitude.
I'm certain you're one cool dude.
(Not an insult in rhyming couplet form, but you do have many admirers of your sysop work here. Happy to see you back) -- Samir धर्म 08:27, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just to say Bye

You're the only admin i've come accross who does not conduct himself like a power stoned narcissist. I have a short fuse when it comes to being treated like shit by the community and it seems to me that everyone here has an admin friend who they spend a lot of time sucking up to and who is ready to help them out when necessary, which empowers them. I refuse to do that. I'm not a power hungry narcissist and i'm not a sheep. As such I don't see how I can fit in here. Wikipedia is an organisation with a Bullying culture that it actively turns a blind eye to. I can't justify putting any more time and effort.

If I could make any suggestion it would be that what is needed is a comprehensive anti-bullying policy. But I can't see that ever happening while it's the psychopaths who make the policies.

So thanks for everything. I wish you all the best and I hope you get somewhere with all of your endeavours. Factoid Killer 12:50, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See you later, FactoidKiller/JebusChrist/Jimididit/NSWelshman. Snottygobble 12:58, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
My comment above prompted a storm of new vandalism against me and everyone else who has ever stood against this sock farm. Vandals were Jebus Of Nazareth and IPs. Vandalism was to label us all psychopaths, per FactoidKiller's statement above. All five accounts have now been blocked - NSWelshman (the puppeteer) for a month, and the puppets indefinitely. Snottygobble 01:52, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Also User:JimboJim is another puppet. Snottygobble 01:55, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't looked at the vandalism, but I'm sorry that you've copped it sweet. I can only say that if presented with the same information that I had when I was involved with this user before I'd make the same decision. I always reckon we should give folks a chance at converting in a positive manner. If they choose not to do so, that doesn't mean we were wrong to give them the chance. - brenneman {L}
That sounds about right to me. My personal view is that people are most likely to reform when forced to bear the consequences of their actions. I know I had a bit of a crack at you a month or so ago, but I really wasn't criticising you this time. I was just keeping you informed of new chapters in the book of NSWelshman. Snottygobble 05:18, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome back

Hopefully it'll go better this time. --Cyde↔Weys 13:05, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, and as always if you see me screwing up please tell me. - brenneman {L} 02:42, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Too negative! Be positive! --Cyde↔Weys 02:44, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, but saying "While a good deed is its own reward, I prefer you to slap me on the arse" got me in trouble at work, so I'm afraid to say it here. - brenneman {L} 03:03, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You and Tony would make much better friends than you realize. --Cyde↔Weys 05:10, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I notivc eyou ve been trying to remove excess links from lots of pages. Chill out with your shoot first approach to gaming links. Did you even click on any of them to see their relevance? When an article eventually matures to be referenced., those links will be imporetant. ANd most of the links you got rid of are perfectly valid. I would recommend staying out of the CVG space, as we're pretty good at self-regulating these kinds of things. And btw citing Wikipedia:External links in your comment doesnt justify what youre doing, especialyl since youre rmeoving stuff that does not go against policy. --larsinio (poke)(prod) 01:22, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. The game articles are particularly susceptible to linkcruft. Any editor can edit any topic as long as he does so responsibly, and Aaron's edits in this space seem like plain good sense. Could you identify a specific herd-culling he did that was inappropriate? Nandesuka 01:27, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I am really getting annoyed by brenneman's removal of external links. In the cases I've seen (specifically the LUEshi article), you've defended your actions by spouting nonsense and pointing to the external links policies. It's one thing to delete cruft- it's another thing to remove external links that are 100% relevant to the subject at hand. Use some common sense, kiddo. 172.147.192.250 06:12, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In Asteroids (computer game)

In particular, the removal of hte following sources

and btw I forgot to re-remove that psp version. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Larsinio (talk • contribs) .

Again, after having re-reviewed these none of them provide a resource that should be linked according to the guideline. Moby games is almost always instantly deletable as providing no information not widely available elsewhere, and dot eaters would be possibly acceptable if used as a reference (please in the "Cite" style not in-line refs!) but as a bare external link it is not.
brenneman {L} 02:31, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
KLOV is exclusively used to fill the infobox items. Most pages in the CVG space have items listed in the external links that were indeed used as references in the article, which is why it is important to NOT remove links. Mobygames is an issue constantly under debate, and I dont really care either way on that front. Typically items int eh external links eventaulyl move up toa references section. --larsinio (poke)(prod) 18:37, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Any external links that are in fact references are always available in the history. There is no need for them to be "stored" in that manner in the artical. Move them to the talk pages if you must but other wise they are just external links under a different heading. Next time I pass through, I'll check if they've been made into "cite" style. - brenneman {L} 11:03, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In Puzzle Bobble

these links cahracterise the gameplay of it, which relates to the context of the article.

I'm not going to respond individually to something that you can't be bothered to format correctly... but rest assured that I did look at every page. - brenneman {L} 02:49, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In Winnetka, Illinois

If you cant link this here where can you link it? ITs relevent to the town.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Larsinio (talk • contribs) .

This one's actually a fair call. I was going to move this up into the education section and convert all the in-line refs into "cite" style when I got distracted by blind reversions of my edits. - brenneman {L} 02:19, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IN regards to my comment about staying out cvg space

ALl im saying is that the members of the WP:CVG wikiproject actively discuss these matters about relevent links, which are items you may not be aware of. Like gamefaqs links are useful references for many games, as they contain loits of gampleay information, information about items and levels, and what not. Just by linking to it does not violate WP:NOT. Lots of fangames and items liek that are obviously crufty, all IM saying is look before you delete. And if youre not 100% sure just post it on the talk page. --larsinio (poke)(prod) 01:41, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We have lots of problems with editors, who are good editors of other spaces and projects, try to apply the same delete-all cleanup without really understanding the context.

Welcome back

You'll get no chow from me, buddy :) MONGO

Aye, and now that I've adjusted my definition of "trolls" somewhat, you'll be seeing a much quieter brenneman, as well. ^_^
brenneman {L} 02:35, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I appreciate your hard work...time to kick ass, take names and sleep till noon.--MONGO 02:39, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Warnings you're handing out re sigs and disruption

Thanks for the reminder, I've intended all along to do exactly that. :) RadioKirk talk to me 03:16, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the ducks. I do maintain it violates "disrupting Wikipedia to make a point" and hence WP:POINT, but I appreciate the heads-up. :) RadioKirk talk to me 03:50, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Arbitration

You have been listed as an involved party at a request for arbitration. Please go to Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#User:Tony_Sidaway to make a statement. Thanks, Chuck(contrib) 05:06, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

re: Socks

While I appreciate your note, I think that you probably are mixing me up with somebody else, as I haven't really been dealing with too many sockpuppets lately (well, a few, but not in the way you're talking about). Plus, I haven't criticised you lately... sorry for the confusion, mate, but I think you've got the wrong chap. If I am the right fellow, could you clarify what you mean? Sorry again, and doubly for acting the eejit. Snoutwood (talk) 06:38, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Email

If you want to send me one for the next couple of days, use my alternate. If you don't have it already, ping my talk and I'll send *you* an email, whomever you may be. - brenneman {L} 09:02, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ping me baby... ++Lar: t/c 20:06, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Done! - brenneman {L} 03:14, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fundamental Surprise

Hmmm... Well, let me put it this way... I've got the flu, and that article resembles what is streaming from my nose! :) Seriously, my guess is that it is neologistic "management speak" from disaster-prepared people, apparently some of them Israeli. I'd certainly AfD it, and I swear, on a day like today, I could support an A1 speedy, because it does verge on indescipherable.

I checked my email yesterday, and got yours; but now I see the pink box, and I don't know where to send a reply. Go ahead with your plan to give me the Brenneman overhaul, about which I am quite excited. While you're combing through my contribs., please wander over to James F.'s talk page and see if I did anything to deserve the WP:DICK treatment he gave me. That sort of thing from a person "on high" is what makes a volunteer want to crawl in bed and take his Tylenol. Best wishes, Xoloz the sneeze 15:09, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oi vey. Thanks for that, hope you feel better soon! - brenneman {L} 03:24, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions about KAS?

I hope this is not out of line. I was hoping to get some advice from you and others who are established at wikipedia, and only seven hours remain in her ultimatum.

She returned to the infantilism article after being blocked for violating 3RR again, this time on the sailor moon page (she was inserting her website as the first external link). This block was extended for circumventing the block to post her "After posting, I'm gone" section there, much the same as she did in the infantilism discussion before.

Since her return, she has written two sections dedicated to "Problems with BitterGrey" and is now making threats of a more serious nature.

I've invested considerable time and effort into the development of the infantilism article. Every reference that the article now has was added by me. Now I am being threatened personally because of it. Before she "left" the sailor moon article, a permanent ban was suggested. What mechanisms are in place for dealing with people like KAS? What do you suggest? BitterGrey 00:57, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've sent out the clarion call, since I tend to work slowly. - brenneman {L} 03:26, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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