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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Netoholic (talk | contribs) at 01:48, 14 September 2004 (Response). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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Statement of the dispute

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Description

Netoholic is edit warring to promote his deprecated version of Template:Infobox Biography which is now at Template:Infobox Person, which includes features that have been changed by the consensus of Template_talk:Infobox Biography. During this war he has repeatedly ignored the consensus of the page, accussed 3 sysops of using unauthorised bots, listing one as a vandal, and is now adding a boilerplate request to the bottom of all the pages that use the template in order to gain support for his POV. He was blocked by Mintguy for disrupting Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (television), but Snowspinner had to overturn this as Mintguy was involved in the dispute. He has also become increasing rude in his manner (see evidence).

Evidence of disputed behavior

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  1. [1] - removing poll which led to block by Mintguy
  2. [2] - Blanking of question reagrding his renaming of craters.
  3. [3] - Sarcastic reply to request for apology.
  4. [4] - Listing of JamesF on Vandalism in Progress as using a bot.

Applicable policies

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  1. Wikipedia:Wikiquette
  2. Wikipedia:Refactoring - Blanking
  3. Ignoring consensus

Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute

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  1. [5] - Official warning from Snowspinner regarding personal attack.
  2. [6] - One of many clear explanations by JamesF of the consensus against quotes in the box.

Users certifying the basis for this dispute

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  1. ed g2stalk 00:52, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

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Response

This is a summary written by the user whose conduct is disputed, or by other users who think that the dispute is unjustified and that the above summary is biased or incomplete.

I'm not sure which charges I am supposed to answer, since the submitter seems to have combined two recent disputes in one. I'll try though.

  1. Template:Infobox Person is a legitimate "fork" of a similar template [7].
  2. My user talk page - the word "blanking" does not appear in Wikipedia:Refactoring, and I like any other user can reasonably maintain my user page however I choose.
  3. "Sarcasm", even if that could be interpreted as such, is not against any policy.
  4. There is no method of "emergency" posting about unauthorized bot use. Listing on WP:VIP seemed to be the only way to communicate that suspicion. JamesF made 22 suspiciously similar edits within 8 minutes in order to enforce his and eds ideal version of the Template. His history shows other very bot-like, rapid, and repeatable edits.
18:04, 2004 Sep 10 (hist) Edmond Hoyle (New format for infobox) 
18:03, 2004 Sep 10 (hist) James M. Kelly (New format for infobox) (top) 
18:03, 2004 Sep 10 (hist) Michael R. Clifford (New format for infobox) (top) 
18:02, 2004 Sep 10 (hist) Mark Twain (New format for infobox) (top) 
18:02, 2004 Sep 10 (hist) George III of the United Kingdom (New format for infobox) 
18:01, 2004 Sep 10 (hist) Willard Gibbs (New format for infobox) (top) 
18:00, 2004 Sep 10 (hist) William Thomson, 1st Baron Kelvin (New format for infobox) 
18:00, 2004 Sep 10 (hist) Winston Churchill (New format for infobox) 
18:00, 2004 Sep 10 (hist) Thomas Edison (New format for infobox) 
17:59, 2004 Sep 10 (hist) Diana, Princess of Wales (New format for infobox) 
17:59, 2004 Sep 10 (hist) Oliver Heaviside (New format for infobox) 
17:59, 2004 Sep 10 (hist) Nikola Tesla (New format for infobox) 
17:59, 2004 Sep 10 (hist) Mahatma Gandhi (New format for infobox) 
17:59, 2004 Sep 10 (hist) Louis Pasteur (New format for infobox) 
17:58, 2004 Sep 10 (hist) James Clerk Maxwell (New format for infobox) 
17:58, 2004 Sep 10 (hist) James Joyce (New format for infobox) 
17:58, 2004 Sep 10 (hist) Helen Keller (New format for infobox) 
17:57, 2004 Sep 10 (hist) Humphrey Bogart (New format for infobox) 
17:57, 2004 Sep 10 (hist) Ferdinand Magellan (New format for infobox) 
17:57, 2004 Sep 10 (hist) Charles Darwin (New format for infobox) 
17:56, 2004 Sep 10 (hist) Alexander Graham Bell (New format for infobox) 
17:56, 2004 Sep 10 (hist) Albert Einstein (New format for infobox) 

Good faith attempts to resolve both situations:

On Template:Infobox Biography
This change should be discussed first on the Talk page. Please do not disrupt Wikipedia to make a point.
removal of the quote= lines from related articles broke this. recommend restoring them until this is decided.
On Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (television)
While well meaning, I'm sure, your poll format is hopelessly confusing. Work on User:Gtrmp/TV draft poll until this current vote expires.
Vote is valid, and can sit side by side with the other poll while it's being designed]

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  1. Netoholic @ 01:36, 2004 Sep 14 (UTC)

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