Talk:Pacifist (disambiguation)
From the main page, cut because it's unclear and, I suspect, false:
"This marginal defensive behaviour of pacifists, together with fact that many of them belong to intellectual elites of their nations, may historicaly helped many nations to successfuly defend against foreign agression (eg. during [World War II]). But such behaviour is successful only if trusted information about situation is available, which is reason, why radical pacifists won't take part even in defensive military operations."
I move to replace this article with a redirect to Pacifism. Is there a second? any objection? Mkmcconn
- I agree that we don't need two articles. Please just check first to ensure that any extra info about pacifists per se is combined with pacifism. Perhaps one paragraph on 'What is a pacifist?' --Uncle Ed
- I also agree that the two articles seem redundant, but perhaps someone might want to go over the two articles and see if any non-redundant information is contained in this one that is not in the other so that it doesn't get lost. soulpatch
- The term 'pacifist' is an adjective as well as a noun, and can apply to many processes or ideas that do not have to be considered as part of any 'ism'. It is entirely appropriate to describe the ideal of pacifism in an article on that subject, that deals only with the extreme position that few or no people practice, origin of the idea, religion, etc. But there are many 'pacifist' figures, like Bertrand Russell or even Gandhi, who had limited ideas of the term, who participated in wars and advocated police actions and law enforcing, which are all against 'pacifism' proper and an ideal of strict non-violence. So for those reasons two articles is better than one, if the division is made very clear at the beginning of each. If there's to be one, put it here.
- also, in the 'Pacifism' article, Greens were mentioned right after Gandhi because Greens derive their philosophy of non-violence from him, usually it's very explicit in the literature, including quotes etc. In its new place the German Green cabinent incident doesn't flow as well as a contrast from the Gandhi view.