Talk:Lou Pearlman
This article is:
- not written from a neutral point of view and contains both explicit and implicit opinion - faintly racist - contains improper English and is badly structured - libellous - in need of detail citation
- Any hate content about Lou Pearlman will be removed as it is found.
- So will obvious advertisements or glorifications. Let's try and make it a well-balanced article. He is an interesting phenomenon with good, but also some controversial aspects to it. This cannot be denied.
- Nex day, June 13. Another copy&paste job by User:65.14.5.2 from Talent Rock office network. He does not even try himself to give his own version of what really happened, he just deletes other's. Mark, do you consider my contribution about the last four years "hate content"? If so, would you please explain what bothers you? User 82.73.143.81 Klaas.
- The content I keep putting up is the only content I will allow unless you have something that's not negative that you would like to add, Klaas. In my article I talk about Lou pearlman's run in with the Backstreet Boys, but all this business about Talent Rock being a scam is all false information.
- mikka this battle between Klass, Lou Pearlman and a few others has been going on for a few years now. Klass is only targeting Lou Pearlman's Wikipedia page for search engine leverage.
- False information? Search engine levering? I am only pointing to information that has been in the independent press. Never to my own site, nor to other sites who are Mr Pearlman's targets. You are only trying to leave out (is in fact falsify) historic facts. I request a permanent ban for mr Tolner, (User 65.14.5.2) and any other distorting contributors like this. I welcome any further improvement of the article, also if in favor of Pearlman. June 16. User 82.73.143.81 Klaas.
- Klass, first off I am not Mark Tolner. Mark Tolner was let go back in early 2005. Talent Rock is also not a talent scouting company nor a talent agency. "Talent Rock is a company that hosts talent search events. These events provide opportunities for aspiring actors, models, dancers, comedians and singers to network with more than 100 industry professionals, learn about the entertainment business through industry workshops and compete for a share of more than $100,000 worth of sponsored prizes." There is nothing more to Talent Rock then that. That's is why I will only allow people to post negative information about the whole Backstreet Boys mess and not negative Talent Rock press. You like a few other people have a few serious misconceptions about Talent Rock because of some of the people that worked for Talent Rock in the past. On a side note I am going to let some of the links you just posted stay, but most of the content you just added will be removed again.
- Thanks for trying to make a start. We could try to communicate, although it seems you still fail to understand you can not play boss here. Quoting: "I will only allow", "I am going to let ... stay", "will be removed again", never once signed a message. First I'd like to know to some extent with whom I have the pleasure. No name if you don't want to (mine is a nom-de-plume). What is your function with Talent Rock? Are you here as a company representative? User 82.73.143.81 Klaas. 17:00 GMT+1, June 17 2006 (UTC)
- You an sign your posts by simply typing four tildas: ~~~~. It will be automatically converted into a signature with timestamp, like mine: `'mikka (t) 17:34, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Please discuss your disagreements in the article talk page. Please sign your messages in the talk page. Please get yourself familiar with other basic editing policies in wikipedia:Welcome page. `'mikka (t) 15:53, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Blocked
User:65.14.5.2 blocked (24hours) from editing for censorship of Lou Pearlman article. `'mikka (t) 19:18, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I have to block User:65.14.5.2 for some time for violating the wikipedia policy that prohibits multiple reverts, see WP:3RR. Please take your time and read other wikipedia polcies, if you want to contribute. `'mikka (t) 15:53, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Proper referencing
All adverse information must be thoroughly backed by references, since it is the most probable target of dispute. `'mikka (t) 16:49, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Article editing
I have no idea neither desire to know rights and wrongs here (I am SO far from any culture biz), but I will not allow arbitrary deletion of facts that backed by references. If someone believes that a particular statement in the article is false, please explain why in the talk page. The arguments like "hate content" and "advertisements" are invalid. The only criterion here is "true/false" based on the policy wikipedia:Verifiability.
If someone feels that the article looks nonbalanced towards "hate", please add facts that may be considered success, but not delete negative facts. If there is nothing much to say positive, well, then Lou cannot be helped. `'mikka (t) 17:08, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
mikkalai you will find that Lou is about 50/50. Lots of people started to hate him after the whole Backstreet Boys thing, but on the other hand lots of people love him for all his other works. I personally do not know Lou Pearlman, but I do know everything that is a fact and everything that is not. Unfortunately there are a few false facts made about Lou even from trusted new sources, but then again that comes with the territory when you have some fame and you work in the entertainment Industry.
- I am well aware that in making money it is often impossible to be "a jolly good fellow" for all and I have no problem with this. But you did not read carefully what I wrote: please explain in this talk page which exactly statements in the article are wrong. This is the rule of wikipedia. Otherwise I will unfortunately have to block you from editing. Also, please sign your posts in the talk page. `'mikka (t) 19:51, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Fare enough I will get that done on Monday for you mikkalai, but for now I'm out of here... Have a great weekend.