Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 June 22
June 22
Delete - I propose to delete this category and move its contents into Category:Jewish schools, which it is a needless sub-category of. This is because there are already separate categories for Jewish universities and Jewish seminaries and therefore the sole contents of Category:Jewish schools would be "day-schools" (all schools are "day schools", unless we're talking boarding schools of which there aren't any Jewish ones on wikipedia and that would be a sub-cat of Jewish schools anyway), so why the needless duplication?. Also, I refer you to the Day school article, which is tiny and obviously not the fulcrum of educational writing on wikipedia. The implication being, that the term "day schools" is essentially:
- A) Parochial, a term used almost entirely in North America, whereas wikipedia is international
- B) Not a widely used term and in fact a term increasingly outdated and irrelevant; school classifications are more specfic nowadays and based on age group and/or style of education (according to the wikipedia
{{Schools}}
template)
Oh, and of course the sub-categories would be renamed:
- Category:Conservative Jewish day schools to Category:Conservative Jewish schools
- Category:Modern Orthodox Jewish day schools to Category:Modern Orthodox Jewish schools
- Category:Pluralistic Jewish day schools to Category:Pluralistic Jewish schools
- Category:Reform Jewish day schools to Category:Reform Jewish schools
Hence, I am strongly in favour of deleting the Jewish day schools cat, which means exactly the same thing as Jewish schools and has exactly the same remit as the latter. In the process, some of the hindersome middleman bureaucracy will also be purged. Many thanks, Nesher
- (Nominator didn't sign.)
- This seems too specific and POV (even given the sole character's name). I'd say delete.--Mike Selinker 22:22, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Consistency of "people from American city" categories. Arual 20:10, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. I am the creator of this category, and if People from Amarillo is more consistent with established standards, then great. Cheers, Lbbzman 21:13, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Armored fighting vehicles by nationality
Armored fighting vehicles are currently categorized as Nationality x. This is ambiguous to interpert, and is also inconsistent with several other primary sub-cats of Category:Vehicles, which otherwise use a by-country naming convention. For example, Category:Aircraft by country uses "manufactured by Foo" (Ex Category:Aircraft manufactured by Canada), and Category:Ships by country uses "of Foo" (Ex Category:Ships of Australia). By nationality categories for entities that are not socio-cultural products of people are ambiguous, and renaming the following to a by country naming convention would correct an inconsistency.
- Category:Armored fighting vehicles by nationality to Category:Armored fighting vehicles by country
- Category:American armored fighting vehicles to Category:Armored fighting vehicles of the United States
- Category:Argentine armored fighting vehicles to Category:Armored fighting vehicles of Argentina
- Category:Brazilian armored fighting vehicles to Category:Armored fighting vehicles of Brazil
- Category:British armoured fighting vehicles to Category:Armored fighting vehicles of the United Kingdom
- Category:Canadian armoured fighting vehicles to Category:Armored fighting vehicles of Canada
- Category:Czech armored fighting vehicles to Category:Armored fighting vehicles of the Czech Republic
- Category:French armoured fighting vehicles to Category:Armored fighting vehicles of France
- Category:German armored fighting vehicles to Category:Armored fighting vehicles of Germany
- Category:Greek armored fighting vehicles to Category:Armored fighting vehicles of Greece
- Category:Italian armored fighting vehicles to Category:Armored fighting vehicles of Italy
- Category:Polish armored fighting vehicles to Category:Armored fighting vehicles of Poland
- Category:Russian and Soviet armored fighting vehicles to Category:Armored fighting vehicles of Russia or the Soviet Union
- Category:Ukrainian armoured fighting vehicles to Category:Armored fighting vehicles of Ukraine
--Kurieeto 19:21, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose - As with the Aircraft by Country discussion, this change would alter the meaning of the category from "Vehicles designed and manufactured in Foo" to "Vehicles used by Foo", which is a completely different category. JW 19:48, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment The Nationality x wording is ambiguous and does not clearly infer that the scope of the category is for "Vehicles designed and manufactured in Foo". A "Canadian" armoured fighting vehicle could be interperted as one in use by the Military of Canada, irrespective of where it was manufactured and designed. Would a "manufactured in Foo" or "designed and manufactured in Foo" wording be acceptable? Kurieeto 21:25, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
In line with other countries' categories (see Category:Political history), and a more appropriate use of 'United Kingdom' (i.e. as a noun, not an adjective). Bastin 18:58, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
unencyclopedic. Matthew Fenton [t/c] 18:42, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- I created it, and it's supposed to be a category for users with the template {{User AAAA}} on their page. I can change it, or you can delete it if you really want to. --Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 18:44, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- DELETE inappropriate name for a user category. Per policy, user categories require "Wikipedian" or "Wikiproject" as part of their names. Ofcource, this is an uncyclopedia categorization scheme, and WP is not a social club. 132.205.45.148 19:39, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Move to AAAAAAAAAAA! Just kidding. Considering that we have Category:Windows users, Category:FOTWer Wikipedians, & Category:Wikipedians who like Buffy, I don't think an outright delete is appropriate. Rather, I think we should Rename to Category:Uncyclopedia users or Category Wikipedians on Uncyclopedia.--M@rēino 20:12, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Rename per above. Sorry for the trouble. --Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 20:14, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Category talk:User Wikipedia/Anti-Administrator to Category:Wikipedians who don't wish to become administrators
- Rename it will sound better Anonymous__Anonymous 18:21, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Rename. The accompanying userbox makes it clear that this Cat is for the latter, not the former.--M@rēino 20:15, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Rename - not the same thing. --Mais oui! 21:42, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
This category is incorrectly named because it does not explain what the characters in it can do. It just says "they're cold" when it is supposed to mean "they control ice" which is what the new name would say. CKalhoon 18:19, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Support. Works for me.--Mike Selinker 18:50, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: This category could be useful for characters such as The Little Match Girl. I would add her to the cat now, but I don't want the robots to move her to "cryokineticists" if/when the rename is approved. --M@rēino 20:19, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
I believe this category is now obsolete with the toolserver down and has been replaced by Category:Orphaned fairuse images which sorts the images by date. --BrownCow • (how now?) 17:15, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete This category is only used in one page. Anonymous__Anonymous 17:07, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
The category is not supposed to include all stamps by the United States Postal Service, but rather just the ones produced after 1978 (and therefore not released into the public domain). joturner 16:41, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Category:Republic of Ireland organisations to Category:Organisations based in the Republic of Ireland
Proposed for renaming to follow the naming convention of all sub-cats of Category:Organizations by country, such as Category:Organisations based in Australia. Kurieeto 16:12, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Charities by country
Sub-cats of Category:Organizations by country are named "based in Foo", such as Category:Organizations based in Canada. I believe this naming convention should be extended to Category:Charities by country, a direct sub-cat of Category:Organizations. Currently the contents of Cat:Charities by country use the Nationality x wording, which is inconsistent, and also prone to ambiguous interpretations. Switching to a by country wording, such as the one used for Category:Organizations by country, would address these issues. The following categories are proposed for renaming:
- Category:Australian charities to Category:Charities based in Australia
- Category:British charities to Category:Charities based in the United Kingdom
- Category:Canadian charities to Category:Charities based in Canada
- Category:Dutch charities to Category:Charities based in the Netherlands
- Category:French charities to Category:Charities based in France
- Category:Hong Kong charities to Category:Charities based in Hong Kong
- Category:Indian charities to Category:Charities based in India
- Category:Charities in Ireland to Category:Charities based in Ireland
- Category:Pakistani charities to Category:Charities based in Pakistan
- Category:Polish charities to Category:Charities based in Poland
- Category:Saudi Arabian charities to Category:Charities based in Saudi Arabia
- Category:Singapore charities to Category:Charities based in Singapore
- Category:American charities to Category:Charities based in the United States
--Kurieeto 16:03, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Rename all per nom. David Kernow 16:07, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Rename all per nom. Anonymous__Anonymous 17:08, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Rename all per nom. I have also tagged:
- Merge into Category:American racehorses. -- ProveIt (talk) 15:37, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Delete and listify -- violates too many policies, trying to do too many things, acronym needs expanding, only 1 article (although there could be more in the future), the actual well-known public list is only called "Writer Beware". A list or list in a complete article would be much better, with annotations and citations. Just doesn't meet the standards for categories. William Allen Simpson 15:34, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, do NOT listify. The category currently quotes the following text: "None of these agencies has a significant track record of sales to commercial (advance-paying) publishers, and most have virtually no documented and verified sales at all." Therefore, the agencies (in addition to being scam artists) are also non-notable. --M@rēino 15:48, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment. Sadly, though these agencies are not notable for their sales, many are notable as scam artists. For comparison: even though Charles Ponzi was not a legitimate or successful fanancier, he is nevertheless notable for the fame and magnitude of his operation's illegitimacy and failure. --Victor Lighthill 18:40, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
as standard for Category:Civil servants by nationality. --Mereda 15:02, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. David Kernow 15:42, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
The proposed new category title is more natural, and follows the "of Foo" wording that all other contents of Category:Mayors by city use, such as Category:Mayors of Vienna. A rename to Category:Mayors of Vilnius, Lithuania would also be acceptable. Kurieeto 15:02, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. David Kernow 15:43, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Support the first suggestion. The second is way too cumbersome. Valentinian (talk) 15:46, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- A wanted category that should have stayed red; a strange mix of the families of Jimmy Carter and June Carter Cash. -- ProveIt (talk) 14:16, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Split into two new categories: Category:family of Jimmy Carter and Category:family of June Carter Cash. Both are notable clans in their own field. A unified Category:Carter family category, however, is a bad idea, b/c Carter is a very common last name, and lots of Carters with no known relation to one another would be lumped together for no reason. --M@rēino 15:52, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Split into two categories -- however, I think that rather than a family of Jimmy Carter category, it would be appropriate to have a Jimmy Carter category, since there are categories for all other recent American presidents with the exception of Gerald Ford.--Larrybob 18:13, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Split into Category:Carter musical family and Category:Jimmy Carter. Lillian, Billy, Gloria, Ruth, etc. are notable almost exclusively in their relation to the former president. But, for the sake of Jack, I'd excuse Category:Carter political family too. - choster 18:01, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Merge - There are only four Staal brothers and the oldest was born in 1984; category is not likely to grow for many years. Other NHL families such as the Stastnys are already in the NHL families category. BoojiBoy 13:37, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Support Per nom. Over-categorization. Kurieeto 13:43, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose All the articles should be subcategorised. The contents of Category:National Hockey League families don't match the title because the articles are about individuals, whereas they should either be articles about families or subcategories for families. Osomec 14:09, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Merge into Category:2006 singles. -- ProveIt (talk) 13:10, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Categorisation by geography in Scotland is normally in terms of current unitary authority areas rather than historic counties. Splitting the category into East, North and South Ayrshire would be consistent with other subcategories of Category:Railway stations in Scotland and would allow these new categories to become subcats of Category:Transport in East Ayrshire etc. Jellyman 12:51, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete if subdivided, but not otherwise. I suggest that if Jellyman wants this to done, he would be best advised to get on with it himself, as I doubt that anyone else will do it. Osomec 15:21, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
- Relisted from Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 June 14 for futher consideration --William Allen Simpson 12:52, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Chicheley 14:05, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Split per nom. I admit my geography of Scotland is poor, but would this be a useful parent category to the East/North/South cats? Thryduulf 21:13, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Mighty Ducks
- Rename: Category:Mighty Ducks of Anaheim -> Category:Anaheim Ducks; Category:Mighty Ducks of Anaheim players -> Category:Anaheim Ducks players; Category:Mighty Ducks of Anaheim coaches -> Category:Anaheim Ducks coaches The NHL team will be anouncing its name change today. The change is minimal enough not to warrant seperate articles/categories and should be treated much like Chicago Blackhawks/Chicago Black Hawks ccwaters 12:33, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Are there grounds to speedy this? I can't imagine there would be opposition. ccwaters 12:43, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Support, and speedy if possible. BoojiBoy 13:28, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment please provide a link to the NHL news release. That is both necessary and sufficient to prove the case for renaming. --M@rēino 15:53, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- [1] Its to happen at 10am PDT. There's a countdown to name change here: [2] Less than an hour at the time of my comment. ccwaters 17:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: This would not qualify as speedy if someone wants to keep the historical name, like Category:Houston Oilers coaches and Category:Houston Oilers coaches, or Category:Baltimore Colts coaches and Category:Baltimore Colts players. Someone might want to keep the historical categorization intact i.e. Paul Kariya never technically played for the a team known the Anaheim Ducks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 16:26, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- If I may make a distinction, those teams moved towns (Oilers to TN, Colts to Indy), and were later replaced by entirely new franchises. This is more like when the LA Angels became the California Angels (then became the Anaheim Angels then became the LA Angels of Anaheim). --M@rēino 16:49, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm all for "major" name changes and relocations separating histories of franchises, but this is more akin to the Blackhawks name change in 1986. There also the New England/Hartford Whalers, Alberta/Edmonton Oilers, etc... ccwaters 17:15, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Unfortuntately, you all do not have a case. There already currently exists Category:Anaheim Angels players, Category:Anaheim Angels managers, Category:California Angels players, Category:California Angels managers, etc. Currently only the Mike Scioscia article is listed in Category:Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim managers. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 17:17, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- I would also argue that the Blackhawks name change was basically minor in that they only took a space out between "black" and "hawks". In the Ducks' case, they are taking out an entire word, "mighty". Zzyzx11 (Talk) 17:27, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Leave it the way it is and create new categories. For example, Paul Kariya never played for the Anahiem Ducks, so why should he be listed in that category? Briememory 17:24, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Ok, I see there going to be a debate about it and thats fine. However: if that's the case, can you place back all the current player articles into the "MDofA players" cat. If it is decided to have 2 seperate sets of cats, those articles still belong in the old cat. Then further adding them to the new cat is would be speculatory since no one as played for the "new team" yet. Anything could happen: free angency, retirement, trades, assignment to the AHL Portland Pirates. They shouldn't be added until them suit up for a game in the new uniform. ccwaters 17:27, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
The franchise has not changed. They have not moved, nor are they nuking the history. How's our California Seals/Golden Seals/Oakland Seals coverage doing? That's right, List of Oakland Seals players has a heading of "This is a list of players who have played at least one game for the Oakland Seals, California Golden Seals, California Seals, and Cleveland Barons of the National Hockey League (NHL). This list does not include players for the Minnesota North Stars and the Dallas Stars of the NHL." And that's even with a franchise move! That said, there are still disparate categories for Golden Seals/Seals/Oakland/Cleveland players. So we have a few decisions to make...because if we do it that way then List of New Jersey Devils players needs to include List of Colorado Rockies players (hockey) in it. RasputinAXP c 19:58, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- I definitely believe people should not be listed as playing for teams they didn't play for, so I oppose renaming the player and coach categories (please move them back). However, I have no problem with folding the umbrella category under the new name.--Mike Selinker 22:24, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Note: Tzedakah means "righteousness" in Hebrew and is a word that is commonly used to denote "charity" in Jewish communities. This category seems to have been set up to promote the agenda of the one organization in it so far, i.e. Kolel Chibas Yerushalayim -- going against Wikipedia:Vanity guidelines. A further problem is that the word Tzedakah has different meanings depending on its context: It could refer to the concept of "righteousness" repeated in the Hebrew Bible, or it could be part of Hebrew language studies, thus it is ambiguous. The name "Tzedakah" for a category is just too vague and unclear as it stands and should be deleted. In any case it would have been better to have named it Category:Jewish philanthropy. IZAK 10:25, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, or rename to Category:Jewish philanthropy. IZAK 10:25, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete or rename per nom. Also categories on the English Wikipedia should generally have English names. Thryduulf 11:57, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete or rename per above. David Kernow 15:44, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. However, I harbour doubts as to whether Category:Jewish philanthropy is the best or most aptly named alternative; rather Category:Jewish charities as a subcategory of Category:Jewish organizations (shouldn't that be organisations?) works best, at least in my view. Many thanks, Nesher 16:18, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete/rename per Nesher.--M@rēino 20:24, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Dozens of categories by Imthehappywanderer (talk · contribs)
I hate to break this one but are you guys aware of this new user? He's been busy creating a *lot* of categories floating around in mid air. They are not used by more than 1-2 articles each (many are empty), most refer to themselves and quite a lot are redundent. A few examples are:
- Category:Cities in India (redundant)
- Category:Cities in Russia (redundant)
- Category:Electronic Government (doesn't seem needed)
- Category:List of dog topics (not needed)
- Category:Non-notable Wikipedians (POW)
- Category:Women philosophers (bad name)
- Category:Wikipedians with an IQ of schfifty five (not needed)
- Category:Israeli political parties (redundant)
- Category:High schools in York Region, Ontario (double "category")
- Category:Breasts (Not needed. And why is Category:TWSinger a child of this one ??)¨
- Category:Prisons by nationality (buildings holding passports??)
- Category:Duplicate (a duplicate)
- Category:Anal Sex-3 (not needed)
- etc etc.
WP:SFD has also found a lot of material relating to stubs. I'd recommend a speedy deletion of most of these contributions. Valentinian (talk) 10:15, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- delete per nom. Thryduulf 11:59, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment; It looks like he's been building wanted categories, however, he's not categorizing them correctly. -- ProveIt (talk) 13:52, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment that might explain the odd collection but quite a lot of items on this list should never have been included in the first place. Much material on it is nothing but errors. Valentinian (talk) 14:19, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy delete, without prejudice to fixing them up or recreating where appropriate. I have no idea if this is weird spam, strange vandalism, or misguidedly trying to help, but they're more sensibly left as redlinks than as links to broken categories, so's they're more likely to be created correctly, if really needed, and tagging them individually for deletion would be pointless and painful. Alai 17:55, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Category:Cities and towns in FATA to Category:Cities and towns in Federally Administered Tribal Areas
and
- Rename [both] per expanding abbreviations. Also who of you knew for what "FATA" stands before? Darwinek 09:51, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- I didn't, but would feel no inconvenience clicking one or two times to find out. Regards, David Kernow 15:50, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- rename[ both] per nom. Thryduulf 12:00, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Rename [both] per nom. Osomec 14:09, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Rename Category:Cities and towns in FATA to Category:FATA cities and towns and
- Keep Category:FATA per here. (Aside: neither "FATA" nor "Federally Administered Tribal Areas" indentify the federation involved.) David Kernow 15:50, 22 June 2006 (UTC), amended 16:02, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Too vague. Completely subjective, POV. What defines a world city? 'All cities are word cities and therefore should be categorized there, but then that would be duplication of Category:Cities' — Nathan (talk) 05:00, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - per nom. --GeorgeMoney T·C 05:04, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment. This is already nominated below (see Wikipedia:Categories for deletion#Category:World Cities to Category:World cities). --Musicpvm 05:44, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- It was nominated for renaming. I removed that and proposed deletion instead and forgot to edit the other listing. — Nathan (talk) 05:58, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete It was used on many minor cities not listed on the list of World Cities. The term is too vague and subjective. Valentinian (talk) 07:19, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: there is also Category:Metropolis, which is similarly subjective - any thoughts before I nominate that for CFD also? — sjorford++ 12:34, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete and delete Category:Metropolis as well. Osomec 14:10, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Strong Keep. Like so many other things, this could be subjective if you think too hard about it, but as the Wikipedia article clearly states, Globalization and World Cities Study Group and Network maintains the list, so it's 100% verifiable and factual whether a city is in the official list or not. --M@rēino 15:56, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as below.--Mike Selinker 18:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. I see no benefit to a category, as the article Global city lists such cities with explanatory text.-gadfium 19:44, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
"Intellectual" is too vague to be a useful means of categorisation, which is probably why Category:Intellectuals does not exist. Any intellectual can be placed in a more specific category related to his or her specific accomplishments. Chicheley 04:46, 22 June 2006 (UTC).
- Merge as above. Chicheley 04:47, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Merge as too vague. Personally, I couldn't easily see sub-categories like "writers" and so I've now cleaned the pipesorting of the subcats. The unresolved big problem is that there are far too many articles in the main Category:African Americans and we should be making it much clearer for people to navigate.--Mereda 10:13, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. I'm reluctant to see much subcategorisation of ethnic categories as some people will belong in several occupatoinal categories, leading either to category clutter or to people being taken out of the main occupation by nationality categories, which is a very bad thing. Osomec 14:12, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. David Kernow 15:55, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Merge, but as Mereda said, we should to pare down the main cat and start listing everyone by profession, role, etc., instead of just by the main race cat. --M@rēino 15:59, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- For info, about that point of paring down the main cat, I've put a suggestion on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ethnic_groups#User-friendly_categories.--Mereda 20:42, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect into Category:Turnicidae. Whatever became of the idea of using common names? -- ProveIt (talk) 00:52, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- reverse merge, the fact that Category:Turnicidae starts "Buttonquails are..." and doesn't mention the word "Tunicidae" once suggests that "Buttonquail" is the common name. Thryduulf 12:03, 22 June 2006 (UTC)