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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Zundark (talk | contribs) at 10:41, 24 January 2003 (Neither name is wrong.). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

We already have Union Jack; recommend merging or replacing this one by that more established, fuller article. --Brion

Merging complete. I've also added the talk from the Union Jack article to here, though it doesn't entirely fit with what the article now says, see below: Scipius 17:53 Sep 30, 2002 (UTC)

It is a superposition of the flags of England, Scotland and Ireland, which are, respectively, the crosses of St. George, St. Andrew and St. Patrick.

This isn't quite accurate.

It is accurate to say that the Union Jack is a superposition of three flags:

  • The flag of England, the Cross of St. George
  • The flag of Scotland, the Cross of St. Andrew
  • The Cross of St. Patrick, representing Ireland.

At the time of the Act of Union, Ireland did not have a national flag. Insofar as anything at that time could be called a national flag, it would be the Green Flag. The Cross of St. Patrick was created based on the crest of the Order of St. Patrick, which was founded in the 1780's or so (reasonably close to the Act of Union), but it's inaccurate to say that it was "the flag of Ireland." -- EdwardOConnor

Yes, you're right, I worded it very badly. I've rewritten it now. Feel free to reword it if you want to include any further information. --Zundark, 2001 Oct 18

Can I suggest you put pictures of the three unmerged flags side by side?Mintguy


While this name is in scheme with the other "flag of X" page, this flag is an exception in that it has a name. I suggest we move to Union Jack. -- Tarquin

Yes. I will move it back to Union Jack if there are no objections. It also has other names - Union Flag (in official British documents) and Royal Union Flag (in official Canadian documents) - but Union Jack is the commonest name. --Zundark 20:08 Jan 23, 2003 (UTC)


The french flag is kown as the "Tricolor", that should be moved too then, but i am against it as i liek things to be constant and this page name is constant. -fonzy

This page name is not constant, as someone has already changed it from Union Jack. Tarquin was merely suggesting moving it back to where it came from. (The French flag is the Tricolore, not Tricolor. But doesn't the Italian flag have the same name (pronounced differently)?) --Zundark 22:48 Jan 23, 2003 (UTC)


ops missed the e anotehr one of my typos :-), o well i never win in arguments i just will keeop quiet. -fonzy

Union Jack would be wholly wrong. It is the Union Flag. - Khendon 09:57 Jan 24, 2003 (UTC)
Neither name is wrong. But Union Jack is what most people know it as, and is therefore the most appropriate title for the article. --Zundark 10:41 Jan 24, 2003 (UTC)

The Order of St. Patrick was created in 1783. JTD

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