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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Asterion (talk | contribs) at 22:07, 11 July 2006 (→RfC sobre Gibnews: reply). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Welcome!

Hello, Burgas00, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Catalan people

Hello, you expressed interest in the article on the Catalan people and I wanted your input along with others on the article as it now stands after my expansion and rewrite. Thanks. Tombseye 20:23, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, as per your suggestion I checked out the Spanish sections and didn't find a whole lot. I added though that many in Valencia itself consider themselves distinct etc. If there's anything you want to add, feel free to do so as I wrote to you to get your input. Thanks for the advice. Tombseye 23:24, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Userpage vandalism

Burgas00, don't engage in userpage vandalism as you did to Al-Andalus. If you keep it up you could be blocked.--Cúchullain t c 07:58, 26 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Latino

Sure, I'll keep an eye on it. He's been inactive for about twenty-five minutes now, though. Also had to revert a change on Latina! ConDemTalk 18:55, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

3rr warning

3RR warning

Hi. Having just blocked someone for Latino, I'm going to point out to you that your edits there nearly got you blocked too. Please *don't* stray over 4R/24h even from the best of motives unless reverting *blatant vandalism* (which this, I think, wasn't). However, since I'm fairly sure you were acting from good motives and did make efforts to discuss it, I'm not going to block you William M. Connolley 19:05, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Henrymark

Henrymark was blocked again as of 22:06, 29 April 2006 (UTC) by Kungfuadam. Just thought I'd inform you so you know the situation (should be) under control. In other news, here's a smile for you! Cowman109Talk 22:38, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Revert to Chile

Thanks for getting the rest of that vandalism that I missed in Chile. ... discospinster 14:43, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Gibraltar

That's one of those things I try to avoid. :) I got burnt on it many many times at the beginning of the year and I'd rather not revisit that. I'd suggest asking the Mediation Cabal. They do informal mediations, which is what I think you are looking for. --Woohookitty(meow) 14:49, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's so boring to fight with obsessed and unfair people like Gibnews, hope with the last link to the June 2006 IMF report he will have to stop or discover himself again and again with his dirty tricks, e.g.: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gibraltar&diff=63013583&oldid=62977600 --Panchurret 10:53, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hay dios mio

No sabes donde te has metio :o) No iba decir mas nada pero ilir se estaba pasando una barbaridad. Además hoy me ha cogido de una mala leche increible porque me han pateado el coche en la puerta un hooligan vete tu a saber porque (estoy deseando que a inglaterra le vaya bien en el mundial porque como no sea así a ver si me van a quemar el coche o algo). Bueno, ya hablaremos y gracias por echarle un ojo a san roque. A ver con que nos sale gibnews ahora. E Asterion u talking to me? 22:46, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anglicanism and the Anglican Communion

Hello! I noticed that you have been a contributor to articles on Anglicanism and the Anglican Communion. You may be interested in checking out a new WikiProject - WikiProject Anglicanism. Please consider signing up and participating in this collaborative effort to improve and expand Anglican-related articles! Cheers! Fishhead64 21:42, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Southernmost peninsula in Europe?

Hello Burgas00! I'm removing the sentence you added the the Iberian Peninsula article ("It is the southernmost of the three southern European peninsulas (i.e. Iberian, Italian and Balkan peninsulas)"). It is not very relevant or true! All of the aforementioned peninsulas run, more or less, between the 35th and 45th parallels north. The Ogre 14:10, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IP addresses used by banned user Gibraltarian

  • 212.120.226.45
  • 212.120.226.248
  • 212.120.225.13
  • 212.120.224.80
  • 212.120.224.159
  • 212.120.225.86
  • 212.120.225.215
  • 212.120.224.36
  • 212.120.237.110
  • 212.120.236.198
  • 212.120.236.253
  • 212.120.224.134
  • 212.120.224.126
  • 212.120.224.229
  • 212.120.225.125
  • 212.120.227.109
  • 195.244.200.39
  • 212.120.224.218
  • 212.120.237.180

Sundar

Hi. I had a look at the talk archives and the issue seems to need a deep review. I'm in the middle of something else (outside of Wikipedia) and hence can't immediately intervene. At first sight though, it appears that Gibnews has a deep POV. I can only visit this tomorrow during the day (IST). Sorry for not being of much help. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 13:36, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry to tell you that I don't have the energy to do that. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 11:40, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jmabel

I doubt I'll have time to really look into this in the near future, though I'll try. If you feel that there are problems with his conduct, and at least two people have tried and failed to resolve the issue, you could start an RFC and then, if that doesn't resolve the matter, request mediation. Otherwise, given your description, if I wade in I'll just be one more person for him to revert. - Jmabel | Talk 16:00, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Your message

I'll take a look at it tomorrow. In the meantime, you might also consider searching for a compromise. Mariano(t/c) 16:16, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Gibraltar

Hi - I'll be glad to take a look, just give me a little while since my time is pretty limited. Thanks.. Ramallite (talk) 16:56, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am "excusing" you

Hello, I have been at the Spanish people talk page this morning and I also the revert war that happened. I check both you and XGustaX talk pages and by what I could tell he just wanted to talk about the information that clearly is being quesioned by the articles he presented. You seem like you didn't want to listen to anything he had to say and just excused him of all sorts of things. That is what i am excusing you of. His articles are properly sourced and you dismissed them even still he had two of them and you still went out this rampage. I told William what I saw today with you and XGustaX. (17.255.240.86 22:04, 25 June 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Castile

Hola, Burgas00. Estoy de acuerdo contigo en cuanto a que los castellanos tienen derecho, al igual que el resto, a cualquier ideología. No creo que eso sea el problema. De hecho, existe un grupo nacionalista, que creo que tienen un predicamento muy limitado, pero ahí están. No se trata de eso. Yo tengo derecho a autoproclamarme descendiente directo de Sir Winston Churchill, pero eso no hará que lo que diga sea verdad. En una enciclopedia tienen que aparecer informaciones contrastadas, o, si no, figurar como "Algunos opinan..." o "el partido X afirma...". Lo confieso, no soy un etnólogo, y a lo mejor estoy completamente equivocado. pero presumo de intentar estar medianamente informado en cuanto a historia. La mezcla de vetones, vacceos, carpetos, romanos, árabes, judíos, visigodos, y posteriormente franceses e inmigrantes del resto de Europa creo que no se puede sostener como una etnia. Pero lo que hace que dicha información sea discutible no es que yo lo crea o no, sino que no he encontrado rastro de esa teoría en ningún lado. No por supuesto en libros de historia, sino, lo que es más llamativo, en los actuales debates en los que muchos grupos reinventan su historia a la carta. Sólo te pido, que si no se trata de una elucubración personal, sino que has lo has leído en algún lado, que cites la fuente, y así se podría dirimir el grado de aceptación histórica y social de esa teoría. Luego está la otra, que afecta a todo el artículo y que creo que deriva de la (por otro lado deseable para este proyecto) participación de distintos editores. Me da la sensación de que cada frase alude a un significado distinto de Castilla, con lo cual, aunque cada frase pudiera ser correcta en su contexto, todas mezcladas indiscriminadamente hacen que el artículo se convierta en un "jardín" de difícil resolución. Mezclando los límites de los distintos momentos del Reino de Castilla, con Castilla La Nueva y La Vieja, o con las actuales comunidades autónomas. ¿Crees aplicable a la Comunidad de Castilla-La Mancha aseveraciones que se puedan hacer del Condado de Castilla de los primeros tiempos de la Reconquista? Todos se llaman Castilla, pero son realidades muy diferentes. Espero que no haya molestado la introducción de una página de desambiguación que creo que era indispensable. Imagínate: en un artículo sobre Isabel of Castile, el que le da al link para informarse sobre Castile, en vez de remitirle a la información sobre el reino en cuestión se le lleva a estas disquisiciones sobre una identidad castellana. O un artículo sobre, por un poner, José Bono, o la economía en Soria y ¡Zas! el plano de Castilla que recibe el visitante es una extraña mezcolanza de distintos tiempos históricos. No digo que el artículo no tenga lugar en esta enciclopedia: al revés, creo que es muy necesario para precisamente aclarar esas ambigüedades y distinguir qué significa Castilla en cada momento, pero ahora, tal y como está, el artículo no hace más que ahondar en la confusión del pobre lector angloparlante que no tiene porqué saber a priori todos eso matices. Claramente necesita un remozado a fondo. No voy a ser yo quien lo haga, porque mi nivel de inglés hace que meta algunas patas gramaticales y mi estilo es bastante básico, pero me extraña que no haya cincuenta, castellanos o no, dedicados a la tarea. En general, los artículos sobre España están bastante abandonados salvo en alguna materia concreta. En fin, como somos pocos los que nos hemos preocupado un poquito en editar y paliar los enormes vacíos en la medida de nuestras posibilidades, es bueno que estemos en contacto, debatamos cordialmente nuestras diferencias de criterio, y aunemos esfuerzos. Un saludo,--Garcilaso 09:40, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

¡Perfecto! Vamos entendiéndonos. Si interpretas etnia como "grupo cultural", y no como grupo con orígenes comunes, lo mejor es explicitarlo en el artículo, porque es un término que suele aludir a "orígenes comunes" y puede derivar en un error de interpretación. P.D. Respecto al partido de ayer, sin comentarios...--Garcilaso 12:22, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nato & WOT

I reverted your edit to the War on Terror page where you stated Nato was not part of it. Please see information regarding Operation Active Endeavor, this is a NATO operation and self proclaimed to be part of the WOT. Thank you --zero faults |sockpuppets| 13:19, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree

I agree with you about your arugment against Al-Andalus on the Chile page. For one his "sources" are not very creditable. I think something should be done. Also I think he is very biast, just look at his talk page and edits. I think we have pently of ground to find a way to ban him for awhile. (IIIV 03:31, 3 July 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Wow! A wee bit harsh there, I don't even know who this you talk about. Next time if you should be more sympathetic towards others especially when they feel the same point of view you do. Take care (IIIV 14:26, 3 July 2006 (UTC))[reply]

It's fine Lad. I was wondering what all the aggro was about.=P I don't know what this blokes problem is. He seems to have a very objective view that is blatanly wrong might I add. Shall we do something about this. Take care. (IIIV 15:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC))[reply]


Randroide 11-M

Hola Burgass00. Por fin puedo hablar contigo en castellano.

He añadido un enlace con datos del sumario 20/2004 para respaldar parte de mis afirmaciones en nuestra pasada discusión en Talk:11 March 2004 Madrid train bombings.

Te lo digo por si acaso tuvieses algo que añadir...

Un cordial saludo. Randroide 17:41, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Gibraltar

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Reporting

WP:ANB for an informal complaint and WP:RFC for more serious issues. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 12:46, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What he said. —Celestianpower háblame 12:56, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gibnews

If you like, you can file a Requests for comment regarding his behavior (you must get another user to co-certify the report with you, however). 16:50, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

OK, I see you've opened the RfC page. However, it currently has no content on it other than the template. Please fill out the subsections in the "Statement of the dispute" section so that readers (especially those unfamiliar with the situation) will know what this is all about. If you need time to gather the diffs, at least you can provide a short summary to begin with. 18:29, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
You may take your time in preparing this report, but remember the 48-hour time limit. 18:35, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

RfC sobre Gibnews

He firmado como usuario que ha participado en la disputa. Me he tenido que informar un poco primero viendo otros de la página Wikipedia:Requests for comment/All#User conduct, creo que deberías incluir ahí a Gibnews. Por cierto, veo que te has equivocado duplicando tu firma en Other users who endorse this summary. Si no lo has hecho tú antes, voy a dejarle una enlace al RfC a Asterion y Ecemaml, deberíamos revisar el historial de Gibraltar y pedir la opinión al mayor número de usuarios que hayan sufrido a Gibnews. un saludo! --Panchurret 19:53, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look at whatever evidence you have, but to be honest I'm not sure that it's appropriate at this stage - it feels a bit early for it... -- ChrisO 22:28, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is what I think too. It would make more sense to stop this and going for a RfC on Gibraltar or whatever other article this is concerning. Perdona que no te respondiese antes pero acabo de volver de vacaciones y casi mejor que no me hubiese ido por el trabajo acumulado que me he encontrado. E Asterion u talking to me? 18:27, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Estoy de acuerdo con Asterion. -- Szvest 21:47, 11 July 2006 (UTC) Wiki me up™[reply]
Have a look at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment#When_to_use_an_article_RfC instead. E Asterion u talking to me? 22:07, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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