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Good morning, Jonathan. I hope today's activities will be more congenial all around :-) --Uncle Ed

Greetings, Vive la liberté! Please let me know if you ever feel I'm out of line. A few people have used harsh language against you, which I do not agree with. Cheers. Q

Thanks Q. I appreciate having the opportunity to work with you in a collegial spirit of mutual respect. Ed Poor did a great job of showing me how effective it is to stay civil, even in the face of great provocation, so I do my best to follow his example. --Clutch

Regarding: "Please defend your reverts..." You might want to try taking a less adversarial approach to working with others, including me. --The Cunctator

Thanks, Clutch. The recent spate of arguments has been getting me down, and your note really cheered me up. As a side note, I don't think it was RK that chased Julie (JHK) away, but it was that same spirit of intolerance and the refusal to listen to other opinions without getting into personal attacks that did. Well, thanks for your note. I will go to work with a smile today. Danny 12:55 Jan 31, 2003 (UTC)

You are right; RK is not entirely at fault for Julie leaving, nor is he the only one using the brush of anti-Semitism to tar anything he doesn't like. He is the most voluble and prolific, certainly the most obvious in his smears and insults, but there are half a dozen others like him on the Wikipedia. Together, they make editing a living hell for others. I don't think there are any Muslim editors left here; they have all been run off. When I encourage Muslim friends to contribute, they look around, and say "no thanks". --Clutch 13:20 Jan 31, 2003 (UTC)
My approach to this (atm) is to go for a bottom-up approach. It's hard (for both sides) to balance an article like Israeli terrorism or anti-Semitism or Islam, but it's comparatively easy to balance King David Hotel bombing or blood libel or dhimmi. If you get the lower articles right then when someone says "Islam considers all Jews as dhimmi" then you can say "No, it doesn't. Read the dhimmi article".
Of course, this is a long-term approach, and in the meantime we're stuck with lots of articles with an NPOV dispute disclaimer... and (sadly) personal attacks. :-( Martin

I wish to apoligize for having bad taste. As I would like to add some information on Salim I al Sabah, Kabbar, Abdul Aziz ibn Abdul Rahman ibn Saud, Najd, Faisal I, Political Titles of the Ottoman Empire, Warba, Abdulla II al Sabah, the First Kuwaiti Crisis, Abdullah ibn Hussein, Mashian, Failakah, Auhah, al Khalifa, al Jalahima, al Sabah, Abdul Karim Qasim, Jaber III al Ahmad al Sabah, Muhammad I al Sabah, the Second Kuwaiti Crisis, Zaki Arsuzi, Salah al Din Bitar, Ghazi ibn Faisal, Bakr Sidqi, Abdullah II al Sabah, Ahmad al Sabah, Abdul Ilah, and Percy Cox, as well as (obviously) the Anglo-Iraqi Treaty of October 1922, the Turkish Petroleum Company, the Basra-Baghdad Highway, the Berlin-Baghdad Railroad, and the Abudllah Khor Waterway, Nuri al Said, Abdulla III al Sabah, Aramco, the Kuwait Oil Company, and the Anglo-Kuwaiti Treaty of 1899; I would like to inquire as to what objections you might have to my doing so? Vera Cruz

My objections are that you don't care about the Wikipedia enough to try and use correct spelling. Your apology itself demonstrated your continuing lack of taste. If you show a sincere desire and effort to develope, or conform to the dictates of good taste in editing, you may consider yourself welcome back. --Clutch 00:24 Feb 1, 2003 (UTC)

I spell wrong? Vera Cruz

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