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POOLS CLOSED
With regard to the partys involved and the extent of what is being called the "habbo raid" it is being hugely underestimated. Thousands of trolls from various organisations showed up to raid the hotel in & out. Possibly the most interesting thing to ever happen ever to the habbohotel, without a doubt very noteworthy. It wasn't just limited to raiding, there was various DDoS attacks related to the troll raids and never before seen organisation by internet trolls & griefers. F The trolling organisations involved in perhaps this first time large-scale internet 'raid' were [from most contributing to least were]; /b/, Bantown, EncyclopediaDramatica, myg0t, and the Church of Bob(unconfirmed).
This has also resulted in showing to all the incapacity of the moderators on habbohotel, who went on huge banning sprees, which resulted in habbos online tally dropping tremendously. This was also stressed when a moderator banned an Admin "Duncan" while on a banning spree, which was the mod reaction to the invasion. The banning of a fellow admin along with all the other thousands of innocent users clearly illustrated the ineffective moderating on habbohotel.
It usually is. Many people have been banned for the sole reason of protecting other users from getting AIDS via the pool. They are martyrs and should be honored with the dearest respect.
- I don't really like those people...they are a distubance to Habbo and deserve to be banned! --Dspradau 13:19, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
- That's because you are a douchebag. -- Jesus, lol
- Not just a douchebag, but probably a faggot too. -- CJayC AKA Jeff Veasey
- The GNAA was reported to be there, at least thats what a 4chan image shows. And those idiots arent martyrs, they are lack of a better word, idiots. Loompyloompy313
- I can confirm that some members of YTMND were there for the July 12th raid. I recruited them...
Hey this site claims that the site is down because of the pool blockades http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Habbo_/B/lockade is that true? DyslexicEditor 22:33, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
- False. Stop adding this nonsense. --james // bornhj (talk) 06:29, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
- The pranks are true. These types of things get noted in many articles. For verifiability, there's many screenshots of this in /b/ on 4chan. If it is not notable enough, I'd like you to explain why. DyslexicEditor 14:28, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
- Okay I also found out Gaia Online, a competitor was behind it. That makes it a whole lot more notable. DyslexicEditor 15:15, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. No hotel was closed because of some silly "blockade" of the pool. It happens every hour of every day on every hotel. It's not notable just because someone special did it. I doubt Gaia would do such a petty thing but if you want to cite verifiable sources (Encyclopedia Dramatica is not verifiable, something like an official statement by Gaia staff is) to prove it that I'd be happy to read them. Until then, I'll quote my edit summary: "rv nonsense, if we documented every single "blockade" we could start a whole new wiki". --james // bornhj (talk) 16:24, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
- Why doesn't it deserve a small note? Also I am thinking of going there and you said that you visit there, correct? What sort of minimum bandwidth do I need? I have a 56K connection and I fear it may be too slow. DyslexicEditor 19:03, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
N-O-T-A-B-L-E! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7468703035503617981&q=4chan V-E-R-I-F-I-A-B-L-E! Well, I am going to declare victory over this wiki-argument. DyslexicEditor 21:38, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
- Being on Google Video does not make something notable. I can upload something there right now, does that make it notable? Granted, the video does prove that it happened. But that doesn't make it notable. Like I said, if you want to mention it, you should mention every single "group" or "mafia" who blocked the pool - there's thousands. Right now, I don't see anything particulary noteworthy of this particular blocking. (56k should be fine, it might take a while to load but once it does there shouldn't be any problems) --james // bornhj (talk) 02:24, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- The griefing is definetly noteworthy; it's a major and frequent disruption to popular sections of the US HH in particular, and for a significant number of people it's the most enjoyable part of the game. It's common enough for the Habbo administrapo themselves to issue advice on the website, change the bobba filter, and issue on-sight bans to players with a particular combination of character graphics. It's not necessary to "mention every single "group" or "mafia" who blocked the pool", a general reference would be sufficient, but none at all is an unjustifiable omission imo. Radix 13:49, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
- Habbo mods are now perma-banning anyone with a black Habbo persona and an afro. I had one and I got permabanned for blocking, even though I was wearing a swimsuit and in the pool and very clearly not blocking. Looks like it's got them a bit ban-happy. KansaiKitsune 16:44, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- I would agree that mention of pranks like this is useful. It was only through reading the now-reverted description, which had previously been posted, that I understood what is going on. It is certainly not "nonsense"! (Tindwcel 14:09, 11 July 2006 (UTC))
- Can somebody get a URL of that stuff on the site (what Radix said, "issue advice on the website") and put it in the article? DyslexicEditor 14:32, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
- I have no objection to including a mention that blocking the pool etc is against the rules (discipline section?). What I do object to, however, is discussion of a particular group ("African American persona with an Armani suit and trousers") doing a specific thing ("claiming that there is AIDS in the pool."). If you want to mention that blocking of the pool happens a lot, that's fine by me, but don't mention a specific group or website or spread a theory that someone was behind a specific incident. --james // bornhj (talk) 14:54, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
- Glad you changed your mind. DyslexicEditor 15:32, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
- Made the changes. :) Feel free to chop/change/remove/
eatas usual. --james // bornhj (talk) 16:23, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
- Made the changes. :) Feel free to chop/change/remove/
- It seems to me that a massive attack against a popular online community by other popular online communities is quite notable.
- 07/12/06: NEVAR FORGET
Dear Mr. Wikimod, I have screenshotted Proof and IRC Chatlogs proving that this was NOT made by "many groups" but solely by one. Since it is a massive invasion started by one community and the mass of Serverload forced the Administration of Habbo Hotel to shut down the Hotel temporarily, it should be included into the article. Why, you may ask? Because it happened. CNN reports about News that happen, Wikipedia has Articles about things that exist and happen with them.
- The group is /b/. They call themselves nigras and /b/rothas. They are the ones who dress in suits, afros, and brown skin. They saved you from AIDS in pool. They have won.
- Yup. Only /b/ have afrosuit. YTMND and other inferior blockers have different uniforms.
- Generally, it's deep black skin, Armani suit and deep black afro for 4Chan Anonymous, pink shirts, pink shorts, and a construction hat YTMND/ basketball uniform for SA, the Yellow Shirters (startup habbo gear) or Rhastafarians for GNAA, and light brown w/ hoodie and beanie hat (varying colour) for random supporters and bandwagon-jumpers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.137.28.18 (talk • contribs) .
James--This particular attack is quite noteworthy as it is not in fact a common occurance that you would have to end up "documenting every single blockade" of, but a controversy on the scale of drawball and ebaumsworld, both of which have their own sections for their respective incidents, which, should be noted, occured in courses of one day or one week, which is NOT, again, NOT a common occurance, especially when large groups get together, and several of these groups have articles. One would probably (and I probably would, too, had I been as distant from the internet) dismiss this because the circumstances seem so immature or silly that one throws it off as some childish prank without realizing the notability. Please rid the bias and allow at least a sentence or two on the 7/12 incident, which is a mere gesture for something with a significant impact in internet culture.--Dch111 03:01, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Admittedly I am only a casual observer of the Habbo Hotel phenomenon, but I can't seem to get a grasp on why the pool is such an important target to the vandals. Was this raid successful in closing the pool permanantly? And what about the rumors that a foreign substance was present in the pool--possibly introduced by the vandals themselves? It just doesn't seem very encyclopedic to me that an article would provoke more questions than it provides answers to.--69.165.36.252 22:52, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- I have not read the whole discussion of "POOL'S CLOSED" here because a)tl;dr and b)it's full of mindless trolling anyway. I'm just here to say that it was the random board of 4chan (/b/) that started and went through with this, contrary to the article's claim of it being an organized raid by many communities. The fact that many 4chaners would randomly shout that they come from either YTMND, SA, Ebaums etc is simply to cause confusion (and it looks like it worked). Also, it was not done because of anger due to "racist policies". That was simply a made-up reason for fun (the same as "We're blocking the pool cause it's infected with AIDS"). It was done because the 4chan community (or rather, the random board community) look down upon such communities as Habbo and Gaia online. There is a picture circulating on that random imageboard (or at least it used to, before the afro and skin tone became common knowledge there) that instructs new-comers on how to dress for Habbo raids (black suit, afro etc), clearly made by 4chan (It says not to forget to put "[email protected]" -the email to send requests for getting unbanned- as the email). So in other words, whoever wrote this got as trolled as anyone on Habbo. Get your facts straight.
- "Also, it was not done because of anger due to "racist policies". That was simply a made-up reason for fun (the same as "We're blocking the pool cause it's infected with AIDS")."
- --Actually, one of the mods had banned a member (who was of the black afro likeness) near the pool saying 'you can't spread AIDS through the pool' which turned the lighthearted pool blockades at that time into a massive attack. Said moderator's racist quote (along with a couple others) is the basis for the AIDS statements which are not as random as you think.--Dch111 20:20, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
- If you sit down and think about that for a moment, you'll realize that the "Pool infected with AIDS" jokes were there since the start of the /b/lockades and not after some incident - hence the "you can't spread AIDS through the pool" ban reason you mentioned. Black people being associated with AIDS and general bigotry is one of the signarute memes of /b/. Again, the whole racist thing started way after the beggining of /b/lockades and just for fun. I can be 100% sure of this since I watched this whole thing from start to end, took part in a few /b/lockades as well, in fact. May I suggest you lurk moar.
/b/ DID organize it, but various other internet communities decided to jump in and help the effort as well. I think the incident is notable as the moderators were reduced to IP-banning ANYONE (afro-suit or not) that went into the pool room. That is pretty significant to me. Rooms were reset and the website itself slowed to a crawl for hours.
- Is there any indication of other sites involved apart from the invaders stating so during the raids? The answer is no.
--You DO realize that the fact that we're having a large argument over this and the fact that it almost completely makes up all of the discussion on this article already proves its notability de facto. If it was that insignificant we wouldn't even be arguing about it in the first place, FYI. --Dch111 20:20, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
- So we agree on these: a) This is important enough to be mentioned, b) /b/ started it, potentially others followed but this is difficult to determine due to /b/ trying to blame other sites to cause confusion and c) racism was not the reason. If anyone disagrees with any of these, say so here. If there are no complaints, I'll add the above information in the article.
--At the very least, add that AIDS is now wordfiltered[this is recorded at Encyclopaedia Dramatica and easily confirmed on Habbo] (but not, as every /b/tard now knows, AlDS with a lower case L) as a direct result of the 7/12 raid in the Language section of Moderation and Guidance.In fact, harbl is another 4chan word, which demonstrates their importance in the raids generally. If you want to have a full list of possible combatants, then Delaware State University, which has been mentioned by some of raiders. Quote "DELAWARE STATE IS NOT TO BE FU.CKED WITH"(sic) and "DESU DESU DESU! HORNETS! HORNETS!". Whether these are /b/tards trying to divert blame and cause general havoc, them abusing a misconception of the meaning behind their meme "Desu", or actual involvement of people involved with Delaware State University is a matter for original research. Signed, Anonymous, who is Legion
has anyone 'against' the adding of the Giant habbo Raid tried researching on 4chan for answers? It's true. The Giant Habbo Raid was planned someimte in May or June. During that time, all they did was practice and recruit. They discovered ways to unblock a permanent ban at the Habbo Hotel so they can keep moving. It's hard to get a clear discussion of it, but if you put a Habbo related picture up and ask about the Raid, you should get some answers. oh, and here's a video that I found that I think has this Wiki vandalized. A very humous video about what went down July 12th, 2006. NEVAR FORGET. --Anonymous, the /b/tard of intelligence 3:33, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Habbo Mafias
I think the article should say more about mafias in habbo because in the UK version having or working in a mafia is one of the most popular things to do.
bandwith required?
What is the required bandwidth needed to use Habbo Hotel? DyslexicEditor 16:36, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
- Dialup is fine, the hotel will take a long time to load but it will function fairly well once it is loaded. --james // bornhj (talk) 16:45, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Vandalism
Thanks for locking the article. I believe those that have violated WP:VAN should seriously consider reading up on the standards at Wikipedia. Seicer (talk) 03:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Bunch of people from 4chan. It's not like they care. Thursday Postal 03:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Nice work ppl. V's were getting hard to manage. Arx Fortis 03:39, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- I step away from this page for 4 hours, and look what happens! :P (Glasnt last edit : 9:32 ish) glasnt<3 04:15, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- This is why you should edit Wikipedia instead of playing games :) Seicer (talk) 04:20, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Ah, I wasn't playing games. I was working! :P. *anyway* glasnt<3 04:22, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- This is why you should edit Wikipedia instead of playing games :) Seicer (talk) 04:20, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- I step away from this page for 4 hours, and look what happens! :P (Glasnt last edit : 9:32 ish) glasnt<3 04:15, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Nice work ppl. V's were getting hard to manage. Arx Fortis 03:39, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Actually, there's a huge raid on habbo (the site not article) today. People were vandalizing this article because they wanted it locked as a sign of importance. DyslexicEditor 04:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Is there a credible source on this? I would be interested in reading it. If its there, amend the article to include that at the end? Seicer (talk) 04:50, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- ebaumsworld, 4chan's /b/, and encyclopedia dramatica organized the raid. I don't know if there's a good source. Goto habbo right now, especially by pools. That's what people said. DyslexicEditor 04:59, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Is this related to the Gaia Online blockade that is in a caption, per chance? I think people invest way too much time into this... (er, replace invest with waste) Seicer (talk) 05:06, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Until there's a credible source that Gaia Online are involved, I've removed the pic. Also, it's a fair use image which doesn't add to the article. It's just vanity on the part of 4chan. --james // bornhj (talk) 05:12, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Is this related to the Gaia Online blockade that is in a caption, per chance? I think people invest way too much time into this... (er, replace invest with waste) Seicer (talk) 05:06, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- ebaumsworld, 4chan's /b/, and encyclopedia dramatica organized the raid. I don't know if there's a good source. Goto habbo right now, especially by pools. That's what people said. DyslexicEditor 04:59, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- There's no such thing as 4chan
- The raiders were from Gaia Online, Ebaum's World, and BlackPlanet.com. Nowhere else. JayW 05:17, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Dude. You're obviously being an idiot. And you're overlooking SomethingAwful and Encyclopaedia Dramatica. And I have never heard of blackplanet prior to your insane claim. Also, Gaia's kind of doubtable, since a lot of 4channers are just trolling in attempts to get Gaia in trouble.--ArrEmmDee 05:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- This raid was planned by 4chan's /b/ and no one else. I won't have ebaum's or fucking Gaia taking our glory. STAND PROUD MY /b/ NIGRA BROTHERS. Go hang out in 4chan.org's random board if you want to see proof. --LOLNIGRA
- I see the Gaia trolls are *still* trying to blame their disgusting crimes on innocent ol' 4chan. JayW 19:00, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Fuck you. You are not worthy of /b/. A true /b/tard would be proud of his work and not try and blame other sites who don't deserve the credit. --LOLNIGRA
- I see the Gaia trolls are *still* trying to blame their disgusting crimes on innocent ol' 4chan. JayW 19:00, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- This raid was planned by 4chan's /b/ and no one else. I won't have ebaum's or fucking Gaia taking our glory. STAND PROUD MY /b/ NIGRA BROTHERS. Go hang out in 4chan.org's random board if you want to see proof. --LOLNIGRA
- Dude. You're obviously being an idiot. And you're overlooking SomethingAwful and Encyclopaedia Dramatica. And I have never heard of blackplanet prior to your insane claim. Also, Gaia's kind of doubtable, since a lot of 4channers are just trolling in attempts to get Gaia in trouble.--ArrEmmDee 05:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- That's original research until you cite credible sources. For the record, I dispute that this raid crap is worth a mention in the article at all. --james // bornhj (talk) 05:22, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- I'm skeptical as to whether you really dispute it. Can I have credible source for that? No offense, but you're, er... incredible. JayW 05:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- I dispute it because I wasn't there and haven't seen any evidence saying "We are responsible" from Gaia, Ebaum's or BlackPlanet. Link me to statements on those sites saying they did it, then I'd believe you. I *have* seen it from Encyclopedia Dramatica and /b/. --james // bornhj (talk) 05:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- And for the record, my "credible source" for me disputing that this is relevant is here. I don't need any other source for my opinion. --james // bornhj (talk) 05:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- It's not original research. It's a fact. There was a raid on Habbo today. Irrespective of whether or not some other source writes an article about it for Wikipedia to cite, it did happen. Liu Bei 05:42, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Did you even read WP:NOR? "the only way to demonstrate that you are not doing original research is to cite reliable sources which provide information that is directly related to the topic of the article, and to adhere to what those sources say." It doesn't matter whether you say it happened - until someone else publishes something about it (and that source fulfils WP:RS), it is, by definition, original research. --james // bornhj (talk) 05:45, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- You want proof? Hang out in the random board on 4chan sometime.
- Why does some random wikipedia guideline hold precedense over COMMON SENSE now? Go on 4chan, go on ED, go on YTMND forums, eBaum's forums.... for $deity's sake go to Habbo itself. There are a bunch of idiots dressed in identical outfits shouting they are from 4chan, that the pool's are closed due to AIDS, and yet, because some impractical article says so, it's not happening. Bureaucracy in some messed up internet form is what it is.
- Give me a break, Wikipedia. --ArrEmmDee 16:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- I'm skeptical as to whether you really dispute it. Can I have credible source for that? No offense, but you're, er... incredible. JayW 05:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry that you have to resort to petty namecalling and attacks, violating WP:TPG. As you are aware, Wikipedia is an encylopedia, not a general web-site that keeps up on a site's soap opera. Wikipedia's standards, such as WP:RS and WP:V ensure that the article remains clear and concise, while presenting the facts. Let's keep the discussion relevant to the article and I will strongly suggest that everyone involved with the trolling and flames read up on WP:TPG. Irrelevant discussions and drama from other sites is not wanted here and violates WP:TPG. Seicer (talk) 17:25, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- name calling where ;o --ArrEmmDee 17:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- although you DO keep up on soap operas. on TV. ah, but who cares about some technicality? --mreddy1
- name calling where ;o --ArrEmmDee 17:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Common sense says to me that you need to prove that this is happening. They're not going to be doing it forever, so if I came to this article in a year's time and the reference you gave was "It's happening on the hotel right now", do you see the problem? If those websites say that they are responsible, link to them. Then you've successfully demonstrated you're not doing originak research. And it's not "a random Wikipedia guideline". It's policy, and it's one of the three core content policies along with neutral point of view and verifiability. Read those, then come back here and make your case following those policies. Anyway, question of evidence aside, I see no point in continuing this discussion. Any reference to the "blockade" has been removed multiple times by multiple people. Unless you can make a good case as to why the "blockade" is notable (not whether it happened or not), then I don't see why we're having this discussion because it's not going to be in the article anyway. --james // bornhj (talk) 17:04, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- I think this section being the largest of the talk page speaks for itself on whether or not this is notable. Liu Bei 17:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- No. WP:N. --james // bornhj (talk) 17:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- So why is this article even on Wikipedia? Outside of a few tweens and companies who occasionally use it to make some profit without realizing what they're are doing (why is LEGO advertising to a group of pre-adolescents with the horomones starting to kick in) I wouldn't even call Habbo Hotel notable. I realize I am making myself look like an absolute idiot here, but Wikipedia's really not the encyclopedia anyone can edit if they have to have spent a year lurking through the site's piles of bureaucracy to actually be able to contribute to anything. What I get from NOR is that if A=B and B=C, A is only equal to C if CNN says so. --ArrEmmDee 18:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Because Habbo Hotel boasts nearly 50 million registrations ([1]) which surpasses our website notability guidelines. It's owner, Sulake, is a multi million euro company, which surpasses our corporate guidelines. And even though this is almost a straw man, if A = B and B = C, A = C because it's basic mathematical theory and relatively common knowledge. Whether or not Habbo Hotel was "raided" is not relatively common knowledge and hence requires sources. I'm not going to continue this discussion. --james // bornhj (talk) 18:18, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- So why is this article even on Wikipedia? Outside of a few tweens and companies who occasionally use it to make some profit without realizing what they're are doing (why is LEGO advertising to a group of pre-adolescents with the horomones starting to kick in) I wouldn't even call Habbo Hotel notable. I realize I am making myself look like an absolute idiot here, but Wikipedia's really not the encyclopedia anyone can edit if they have to have spent a year lurking through the site's piles of bureaucracy to actually be able to contribute to anything. What I get from NOR is that if A=B and B=C, A is only equal to C if CNN says so. --ArrEmmDee 18:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- No. WP:N. --james // bornhj (talk) 17:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- I think this section being the largest of the talk page speaks for itself on whether or not this is notable. Liu Bei 17:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry that you have to resort to petty namecalling and attacks, violating WP:TPG. As you are aware, Wikipedia is an encylopedia, not a general web-site that keeps up on a site's soap opera. Wikipedia's standards, such as WP:RS and WP:V ensure that the article remains clear and concise, while presenting the facts. Let's keep the discussion relevant to the article and I will strongly suggest that everyone involved with the trolling and flames read up on WP:TPG. Irrelevant discussions and drama from other sites is not wanted here and violates WP:TPG. Seicer (talk) 17:25, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
The current picture at the beginning of the article is not the one that appeared earlier today. Someone has changed the source picture. The picture with a character stating "POOL'S CLOSED, AIDS" is all part of the same vandalism and related to the recent problems with Habbo Hotel itself. Can someone restore the original picture? If not, I'll delete the reference. Thanks. Arx Fortis 06:30, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- I've replaced the Image:Diverse Habbo.png and Image:HabboAUGuestRoom.png images, since both seem to have been added during the vandal attacks earlier today. Any comments/objections?--TBCTaLk?!? 08:44, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Image:HabboAUGuestRoom.png was just vandalised, I reverted it to the older version and readded it :) --james // bornhj (talk) 10:50, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- That was not vandalism. The image is supposed to depict 'regular Habbo Hotel activity.' I was updating it to current stardards. JayW 19:00, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- The image was vandalized. Someone had edited the image and replaced the original text with inappropriate comments. --TBCTaLk?!? 02:07, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
- That was not vandalism. The image is supposed to depict 'regular Habbo Hotel activity.' I was updating it to current stardards. JayW 19:00, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Image:HabboAUGuestRoom.png was just vandalised, I reverted it to the older version and readded it :) --james // bornhj (talk) 10:50, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
The raid may still be going on. Anyone can verify for themselves. Also ED was involved. See their main page: http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com The raid is a featured article. DyslexicEditor 07:49, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- /b/ on 4chan has been planning this raid for about a month. ED jumped on the wagon.
With regard to the partys involved and the extent of what iS being called the "habbo raid" it is being hugely underestimated. Thousands of trolls from various organisations showed up to raid the hotel in & out. Possibly the most interesting thing to ever happen ever to the habbohotel. But it wasn't just limited to raiding, there was various DDoS attacks and unbelievable organisation on part of the troll organisations. For the record ebaumsworld and gaia has no involvement, but provided a humourous scapegoat. The trolling organisations involved in perhaps this first time large-scale internet 'raid' were [from most contributing to least were]; /b/, Bantown, EncyclopediaDramatica, myg0t, and the Church of Bob(unconfirmed).
This isn't really an organised raid, though, it's just getting the word out and letting the Zerg Rush handle it. I was on the battlefield earlier today and there wasn't any organisation- if someone shouted out a sensible order(e.g. "Close the changing rooms, full of syphilis", when the pool had already been closed), someone would probably follow it. We were dedicated to the cause, and knew what we were doing, but not centrally organised. Signed, Anonymous, who is Legion.
- You forgot YTMND. We're cool too! Please pay attention to us!
Lol this is the dumbest discussion I've ever seen ~ Anonymous
- Wikipedia. Serious business.
"Common sense says to me that you need to prove that this is happening." Thick much?
Nyoro~n
Discussions
Let's limit our discussions to Habbo Hotel and stop with the flame wars, ad-hominem blanter, and personal attacks. I suggest those involved (and you know who you are) read up on the talk page guidelines. Seicer (talk) 03:47, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- I moved most of the discussion to an archive page since it exceeded the KB limit per WP:ARCHIVE standards. Do not add to the dead or smoldering comments there. Seicer (talk) 17:51, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Verifiability
Go to habbo hotel, in gaming area, go to poolsphere. Raid is still going on. DyslexicEditor 16:26, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Let encyclopedia dramatica handle it
Who cares if the raid is not recorded in Wikipedia. It's internet drama, which can be recorded on EncyclopediaDramatica. Even if the article is less than serious.
- Internet. Serious business. user:mreddy1
- ED is down, changing servers to handle traffic. DyslexicEditor 04:10, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
- Because it helps reinforce the precedent that wikipedia can ignore topics the editors personally find displeasing. Liu Bei 05:33, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
- Not all editors, just the hivemind. DyslexicEditor 06:29, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
I think its more of an issue of not letting the Habbo trouble makers use Wikipedia as their trophy case. Arx Fortis 16:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
- (O_O) If that's so, Arx Fortis, you'd better get over to the Emoticon page and search the phrase "surprise buttsecks". Signed, Anonymous, who is Legion.
Controversy section
Unless this is sourced, I'm going to delete it. Go on Google News and you'll find various mentions of Habbo Hotel. What you don't find is anything about the so called racism and the "raid" that took place. Why? Because it's neither encyclopedic or newsorthy and no one cares. Get some sources. - Hahnchen 23:02, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- If I was a reporter, I could make lots of money on this story. DyslexicEditor 23:07, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- I'm sure you could have made some money with the Something Awful Dating Game raid[2] too. But wait, you're not a reporter. And if you were, no editor would print your piece, because no one cares. - Hahnchen 23:32, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Hahnchen, I'm sure a lot of legitimate Habbos are wondering why they were automatically IP-banned for 1 day upon entering the pool or the rooftop rumble.
- Good for them. Wikipedia is not the place to find out. --james // bornhj (talk) 05:25, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
From what I've gathered, while this is big internet news, this is small "real-life" news. So in a way, not having it is both justified and unjustified, since Wikipedia does have significant coverage of the internet. In any case, hopefully the ED article is enough for the confused Habbos to figure it out for themselves.--Dch111 03:46, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia Vandals
I am in Habbo Hotel in poolsphere and all of the blockers keep saying "WE'RE FROM WIKIPEDIA.ORG". I would upload a screenshot, but I fear that it would be deleted due to some strange copyright issue. I think this is a problem for wikipedia. Todd Lanuzzi 07:11, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
- It'll be the same trolls as before, angry that we won't let them have a mention in this article. --james // bornhj (talk) 07:30, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
- Almost seems as if we need the semi-protected status back again. Seicer (talk) 12:13, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- Curious. What level of external coverage would be valid to warrant a mention here of something like this? Not trolling here, just genuinely curious. While it was trolling of Habbo when they did this, it WAS wide scale and pretty massive. Personal opinion over whether trolling (for whatever ultimate reason) is right or wrong should play no role in whether some sort of event is notable. From a purely clinical, "did it happen?" standpoint, it was a notable event as a major online service/community with millions of subscribed users was crippled. rootology 16:50, 17 July 2006 (UTC)