User talk:Altenmann/ar1
Goodbye to all until July 27. Mikkalai 23:25, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
terms for administrative assembly
Does it make sense to make a list or a category various terms that denote gatherings for council, management, etc., both nation-specific and international ones: kurultai, ting, Loya jirga, veche, parliament, Congress of Soviets, etc.? Or are these belong to a list of forms of government (absent from it now)? Mikkalai 05:57, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- I'd suggest that they would be a great addition to forms of government but that they are more of a 'related group' than something you would work through as a list. imho, anyway. --VampWillow 11:41, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
just to say hello
Hi! I've noticed you edited a lot of pages related to Belarus. That's nice! I was just wondering what kind of interest you have in Belarus. And I also would like to contribute to the project... So I thought you may help me to get started here.
(That was me. I forgot to put my sig. -- rydel 17:55, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC))
user page unprotected
I have unprotected your user page along with several other user pages that do not have a history of vandalism. Policy (talk) does not permit user pages to be protected unless a history of vandalism justifies protection. UninvitedCompany 20:02, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Joseph Stalin article
I posted an article to Joseph Stalin's discussion after you rolled back changes made to the page. I don't believe Suvorov's theories should be included on the Stalin page, when they appear to be pure propoganda and (as far as I can tell from a Google search) his theories are entirely dismissed by the academic community, and he responded to academic refutation with nationalistic claims. Please join the article discussion to clarify your opinion.
Art categories
Hi,
I noticed that you have recently been active in editing articles in the visual arts. Can I also encourage you to join the categorisation discussion at Category talk:Art -- Solipsist 22:23, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Muscovite princes
Hello, Mikkalai!
Was it you who compiled the list of the Muscovite princes? I noticed a few strange things. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've always thought that "Muscovite" meant "of Moscow" (I'm not a native speaker). If I am right, then there are names on that list which don't belong there, e.g. Andrei III, who never was a Prince of Moscow (he was a Prince of Vladimir and Gorodets). Could you please explain? Maybe you were trying to compile a list of all the Russian (not "of Moscow") princes as opposed to Kievan princes? Thank you.
KNewman 13:33, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)
KNewman, you can read Ruthenia (together with discussion page!) to get better understanding why and when the word Muscovite was used. -- rydel 17:55, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
dance sport
hello,
if you have time could you add a DanceSport section to dance and also include a little bit of dance as sport at the end. you know more about this than me and would do a better job.
thanks, Ohka- 11:27, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Wikiproject
I've noticed you've been very involved in the various dance articles- if you'd like, Ohka and I have started up Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dance in an effort to organize, catalouge, and improve these articles, as this section of the wiki is terrible.
Feel free to jump right in! Lyellin 15:13, Aug 10, 2004 (UTC)
Poland
You and the Polish editors should have a look at the horrible pro-Communist edits that User:172 has been making to People's Republic of Poland. Adam 03:03, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Bossa Nova
see its talk
User page
Hi, Mikkalai!
Sorry you are having trouble with my user page talk. I am, however, perfectly OK with using the languages preffered by my correspondents. If they want Russian, that's fine with me. If tomorrow they'll want Farci, I don't care (not that I will be able to read it, of course). The point is, it's my user page, and it's up to me if I want to allow languages other than English there. It's not like they are using Russian in the articles name space.
Sorry if this sounded a bit harsh—if it did, I didn't mean it.--Ëzhiki (erinaceus europeaus) 16:00, Aug 16, 2004 (UTC)
Ballroom and cha-cha and other confusing things
It's not a problem, Mikkalai. I really didn't mean to cause a stir at all. I've been teaching social dance for [mumbles a number inaudibly] years, so I've learned about many, many disagreements!
I'd be glad to chat if I ever come to San Jose; (I've got a brother in SF so I might do, but I'm in rural Australia at the moment!) Or, feel free to use the e-mail function here.
Quill 00:58, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Meetup
So if you're from San Jose--are you coming to the Silicon Valley Wikipedia:Meetup tonight in Mt. View? Elf | Talk 01:23, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Oops! Missed it. Mikkalai 07:02, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Chernihiv -> Chernigov.
Dear Mikkalai,
could you please read Wikipedia:Naming_conventions#Use common names of persons and things, Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names), Wikipedia:Naming policy poll (I'm surprised that you are not aware about this yet), then check http://www.google.ru/search?q=chernihiv vs http://www.google.ru/search?q=chernigov , and revert your recent move of Chernigov into Chernihiv?
And please don't move Kiev to Kyiv either.
Thanks! Dr Bug (Volodymyr V. Medeiko) 08:04, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Thank you! Dr Bug (Volodymyr V. Medeiko) 18:15, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- 1984, DrBug. Nothing is what it seems. Under veneer of allegedly good intentions I can discern the ugly face of Russian imperialism. -- rydel 17:55, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Well, if you add a link to an article on my watchlist, I may follow it if it is of interest. I also sometimes frequent New Pages. I enjoy doing a little clean-up work; it's useful, yet not as tiring as adding new content. Everyking 21:48, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Please cease
Please cease your unwanted edits to Wikipedia:Administrators/Administrator Accountability Policy. It is my decision as to how long the discussion will last, as I am the proposer. It states clearly in the text "Please do not edit this proposal..." Anyhow, if you insist on continuing to make this edit, I will be forced to block you from editing for "disruptive actions" as per Wikipedia:Blocking policy. Thanks. blankfaze | (беседа!) 20:56, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Personal attacks
Please change your tone in the discussion of Wikipedia:Administrators/Administrator Accountability Policy. You are being excessively hostile, and making personal attacks against other users. Snowspinner 00:00, Aug 28, 2004 (UTC)
1) Your serious comments would probably be taken seriously if they weren't drowned in a sea of personal attacks. 2) Were it not for the fact that you were not a new user, I'd have banned you myself under the disruptive users policy. Blankfaze's threat was misinformed - not out of line. Snowspinner 00:44, Aug 28, 2004 (UTC)
IRC Banning
Mikkalai, I've been banned from the #wikipedia IRC channel by Snowspinner, for what he considers "personal attacks" against him.
I don't feel I did make any personal attack, nor am I aware that banning from IRC for "personal attacks" is supported by policy (but with so many policies, perhaps it is and I've missed it). And in any case, I think it contravenes policy for Snowspinner to take action in a dispute to which he is a party to.
In what way do I contest the banning, and Snowspinner's banning for a dispute he is party to?
A log of the conversation leading up to the ban is given at User:Orthogonal/IRC ban by Snowspinner.
Thanks. -- orthogonal 04:56, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Passion flower pollination
Hi, I left a note for you at Passion flower. Thanks. Pollinator 02:50, Sep 1, 2004 (UTC)
Hi Mikkalai,
I am new here. Haven't plenty of time to scroll painfully across these help texts of the wonderful but peculiar wikipedia features, since the internet is full of similar systems to waste time endlessly. Someones just great and someones nonsense.
So, Gene S hasn't time to pay attention to the Chechen databases I've given, nor I have to the Wikipedia in-depth features or other irrelevancies however academic and scientific and interesting they were (I spent my younghood at such an academy, so I think I know your way of thinking plus basic methods, but since then I've been a get-a-result or get-out man of businesses).
As a long-term hobby, my aim was to focus on the Chechen issue itself and not to produce wonderful texts to be filed in such dusty and quite academic bookselves where they have no affect on anything but some professors' merits.
Well...in order to continue the dispute, most shortly and effectively and usefully, I need just a short introduction of your techical salient points. Nothing more or nothing less.
On the other hand, I am one of those who's been up-to-date since the beginning of the Russia-executed campaign against the independence of the ChRI, so I may contridute some refreshingly true aspects.
It's up to you to buy or to leave me.
BIR
Mary Monnett Bain
Dear Mikkalai-
I take great umbrage at your comment that the article that I was working on for Mary Monnett Bain "looked like OCR".
By making that comment you make it seem as if I were copying the article, which I was not. If I am at error, it is for not completing the article.
When making such snap (and incorrect) judgments in the future, as a courtesy, please contact the author instead of implying that a work is being copied from another source.
Very truely yours,
Stude62
- Mikkalai, sorry about my vituperation on that vote. Stude62 improved the article greatly, and now I have no problem whatever removing the VfD tag (done already) and the nomination from the page. I stick by my assertion that listing it wasn't a mistake, at the time, though I was proven wrong. I'm always happy (sincerely) to be proven wrong on those matters, but I was getting (and am getting more) touchy about edits to the VfD page. Given the number of folks now trying to subvert the entire process, I couldn't tell where you stood on the matter. It is policy that nominators should be the ones who make early removals in all but egregious cases, and I consider it courtesy to ask the nominators rather than simply doing it, even in those cases, but I really want to apologize for losing my cool on the debate. That's not me, and it's not the person I strive to be. (P.S. I've written a note on Stude62's page, too.) Geogre 01:06, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
You have two fewer cows :-(
Hi. Can you respond over at Talk:List of "You have two cows" jokes? I would very much like for the two jokes you removed to be put back, but I've been hesitating for days waiting for you to present a compelling counter-argument. (I'm taking this waaay too seriously.) --Ardonik.talk() 01:23, Sep 6, 2004 (UTC)
El Coronado
- User:El Coronado - posted an elaborate hoax: a set of articles about Anarcho Coronado de Murillo and a number of nonexistent "revolutionary" parties. After that he maked references to these wikipedia articles in some forums. This is not only hoax, this is a misuse of wikipedia. I suggest to remove all what he created. If he will persist, ban him. Mikkalai 01:26, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- I talked to him, but he removed my comments. Mikkalai 01:26, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Please add your evidence and comments here - Wikipedia:Requests for comment/El Coronado. -- Netoholic @ 01:52, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I left a message for him on his Talk page (trying to be VERY gentle about it. We'll see how he responds. RickK 06:22, Sep 9, 2004 (UTC)
He's got a link on his fake page to Google, showing all of the Wikipedia articles and mirrors as proof of the existence of his fake person. RickK 06:32, Sep 9, 2004 (UTC)
- I have also now (9 hr later) left a note on his talk page. We'll see how he responds. If he responds poorly, that will be grounds for either RickK or me to certify the RfC, I believe. Geogre 15:12, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Ok, sorry if i have caused alot of trouble because of the anarcho coronado articles, my father was a legend in mexico but during the 70s was never heard of again, so i tried to put a article about him, but you guys call it false. Atleast i know hes real. you can take down all my articles now and ban me, im just another liar, aren't i? -El Coronado
You deleted this page with the comment "crook scheme"; could you explain, please? If it's a fraud then it might be worthwhile to explain that in the article. —No-One Jones m 00:26, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- cc from user talk:Mirv
- May be I am wrong with deletion. A very simple webpage does noything but solicits donations. I will not be surprised if it also steals your paypal account on the way. He also inserted plenty of references to his site around wikipedia suggesting that he offers something "free". Mikkalai 00:36, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I'll VfD it as non-notable spam then. —No-One Jones m 00:41, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Irish cities
Oh don't worry about it, it's just that it's all a bit crazy, and it was amusing to see the status go to 4 different formats used over the last 24 hours! Hopefully we can get things down to 2 formats at least and remove or expand the redirects. Thanks for the stats. zoney ▓ ▒ talk 00:30, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Vernichtung and eradication
My English may be insufficient, but I would guess that "eradication" is one of the more appropriate translations of Vernichtung, others being "extermination", "annihilation" and "destruction".
--Ruhrjung 19:52, 2004 Sep 15 (UTC)
Hey... I'm glad to see the sign (copy vio) up... I actually saw major edits done to the Aurobindo page which an anon. user had made and moved them to a separate article (Evolutionary Philosophy of Aurobindo) with unvoiced fears that the content might be plagiarized. --LordSuryaofShropshire 23:11, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)
Polish Geography
Perhaps you might be interested in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Polish Voivodships. [[User:Halibutt|Halibutt]] 19:03, Sep 22, 2004 (UTC)
Please don't delete VfD headers until the 5 day open discussion period has ended. RickK 05:13, Sep 26, 2004 (UTC)
I don't think this qualifies. Besides, I don't want to see a precedent set of the creator of an article coming in and deleting the VfD header because of their perception. I agree that it looks as if the discussion will fail, but there's no harm in leaving it there until the end of the period. RickK 05:20, Sep 26, 2004 (UTC)
Sorry, I apologize, I thought you were the originator. I'm not going to edit war over this, but I am extremely worried about setting a precedent. Would you have done this if the vote were close? RickK 05:31, Sep 26, 2004 (UTC)
- I'm writing in response to your comment: I delisted the article primarily because the vfd page is very big, and IMO it is a good idea to clean it in the clear cases, to relieve some sore eyeballs. You've got the right idea; VfD is huge. However, early de-listings are controvesial, as RickK noted. I agree with him that it's important to not set a bad precedent, opening the doors for controversial de-listings.
- There was a discussion a while back on the village pump about this very issue, and the end result of it was Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Maintenance, which everyone seems happy with. It's not official policy, but it's been used over a dozen times without complaint. This is a way of cleaning up the VfD page without actually de-listing the article in question. Why not give it a try instead? • Benc • 06:14, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I've moved the above from an article's talk page since I feel it is highly inappropriate to start making attacks on people when you know they are going to be reading that talk page. If you have anything constructive to suggest for the article, please do, but don't let the talk page descend to the level of making meaningless attacks. Thanks. Angela. 06:38, Sep 28, 2004 (UTC)
Talk:Rurik
Thanks Mikkalai for explaining to Gene. I was about to answer him but found your answer and you said it all. Thanks again! :)--Wiglaf 15:43, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I was wondering if you're aware that you spelled category wrong? I have to delete it as I understand categories cannot be moved. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 19:25, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I see your point on this - article should be expanded.
One question - shouldn't it be clarified that the secret speech was known outside the Soviet Union in fairly short order? Also it must have been circulated via samidzat(sp?) within the Soviet sphere as I see references to it in the translation I've read of Gulag Archipelago. Thus, was the 1988 event the first "official" acknowledgement of the speech by the Communist government? Ellsworth 22:21, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you for reverting the vandalism on my talk page. :-) [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 07:16, Oct 6, 2004 (UTC)
Requests for comment Shorne
A few of us are talking about doing a RfC regarding Shorne. Before we can do that we must pass this threshold:
"Before listing any user conduct dispute here, at least two people must try to resolve the same issue by talking with the person on his or her talk page or the talk pages involved in the dispute. The two users must document and certify their efforts when listing the dispute. If the listing is not certified within 48 hours of listing, it will be deleted."
I you feel that any issues exist with respect to his edits, please enter into a dialogue on User talk:Shorne and see how much progress we can make through negotiation. Fred Bauder 18:44, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)
Cabet and Communism
Hello, my name is Fredrik Bendz, and I'm the one who wrote the original article about Etienne Cabet, and put some remarks about him on the Communism page. (I did not understand that it was considered unethical to add information without asking). I don't know how to contact you apart from writing here. If you want to reply, you can write to fredrik2 at bendz net. I have now found several articles that mention Cabet as the man who coined the word "Communism" and I have read a letter by Friedrich Engels, which I interprete as crediting Cabet as the originator of the term. However, Engels' language is very emotional and not so "rational" so I'm not definitely sure whether he strongly agrees or strongly disagrees that Cabet was responsible for creating communism. See these links:
"The term ‘communism’ was first used in modern times to designate a specific economic doctrine (or regime), and a political creed intending to introduce such a regime, by the French lawyer Etiénne Cabet in the late 1830s; his works, especially the utopia L'Icarie, were influential among the Paris working class before the revolution of 1848. In 1840 the first ‘communist banquet’ was held in Paris - banquets and banquet speeches were a common form of political protest under the July monarchy. The term spread rapidly, so that Karl Marx could entitle one of his first political articles of 16 October 1842 ‘Der Kommunismus und die Augsburger Allgemeine Zeitung’." http://www.marxsite.com/MandelCommunism.htm
"In fact, in all the report of our correspondent, there is nothing produced, which he could have procured from this source and from that of personal inquiry, if it be not the two novel facts, that the German Communists got their doctrine chiefly from Cabet and Fourier, whom they attack; as our correspondent could" http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/01/13.htm
"In particular, communism is a dogmatic abstraction and by communism I do not refer to some imagined, possible communism, but to communism as it actually exists in the teachings of Cabet, Dezamy, and Weitling, etc." (Letter by Karl Marx, 1843) http://eserver.org/marx/1843-letters.to.arnold.ruge/1843.09-ruthless.critique.txt
"Anarchist-communism must be distinguished from collectivism, which was both a diffuse movement (see, for example, the different components of the International Working Men’s Association, the Guesdists, and so on) and a specific anarchist current. As far as the latter was concerned, it was Proudhon who supplied its theoretical features: an open opponent of communism (which, for him, was Etienne Cabet’s “communism”)" http://www.zabalaza.net/texts/txt_anok_comm_ap.htm
Cabet used the word before Marx and Engels. I think it is historival revisionism to deny this fact and pretend that communism was coined by them, when it was not.
Would you mind if that category was re-babtized to Category:Ethnic groups in Russia? /Tuomas 04:06, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Absolutely not. But there already is a fat Category:Chinese ethnic groups I mimicked, as well as Category:US ethnic groups. Please make sure they allow you to re-baptize these as well, and act in sync: we better have the same style. Mikkalai 04:17, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)