Wikipedia talk:Danny's contest/Danny's contest 1
Start date
Perhaps the creation date of the article should be limited? If an article was created a month ago is it eligible? A cut-off date would ensure that the article is new but what would be the situation with substubs?. violet/riga (t) 08:33, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Should I just write a stub?
Since you consider the author to be the first contributor it would seem to mean that if I create a 2 line stub which someone else expands to 3 pages then I will get the prize? SimonLyall 10:18, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Is it ok if I add this example to my proposed new policy Wikipedia:When creating new policy and rules, don't be too over-specific because people will automatically pick holes, find loopholes and attempt to game the system (Actually that policy is at Wikipedia:How to create policy)?
- You seem to be betting awfully heavily that someone is going to come along and fix up your stubs for you. In the vast majority of stub cases, this is not the case. →Raul654 18:01, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)
- Anyone using such an anti-social, counter-productive tactic would be disqualified, I hope? This is a friendly competition; the real winner will be Wikipedia as a whole. • Benc • 10:58, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
General comments
- Shouldn't a barnstar or just a word of thanks be enough? There is, of course, the trouble of mailing a T-shirt to the winner. [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk)]] 04:32, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)
- One can always let the winner choose. -- Emsworth 16:02, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I absolutely love this idea, and am now looking for some good requested articles to write. We have plenty of mechanisms in place for collaboration, but this is the first I've seen for competition. If this contest were to include pages in the Wikipedia namespace, Wikipedia:Danny's contest should win its own award. :-) • Benc • 10:51, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Questions
Just a few questions, to satisfy my own curiosity:
- How were the judges selected?
- At random by me.
- Is there any limit on the number of articles one may submit?
- No.
- Will this contest be repeated?
- Quite possiby. Depends on my bank account, other sponsors, etc.
- Will there be any special image of a medal which the winner could display on his or her user page?
- Good idea. I will look into it. Danny 18:24, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
-- Emsworth 16:07, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Another question: if we collaborate with another user, can the first author specify that the prize be split (e.g., shirt for me, mug for you) when submitting the article? Another good way to "cheat", I guess, unless this contest is only for solo efforts. • Benc • 10:53, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Colloboration like that is a great idea. That is definitely acceptable. Danny 11:03, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Expansion of stubs
So, this contest is not about expanding the random stub? Not even a new stub? I was disappointed when my (in small scale) planned submission Childhood amnesia was created as a stub today (I put it on Reqs some days ago) :-/ ✏ Sverdrup 18:57, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
On a similar line, I was rather disappointed that my article [ which I will not disclose, lest anybody "steal" it :p ] might not qualify. It was once an article, but was then merged with another article and is now a redirect. -- Emsworth 19:13, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- This was just the sort of point I was hinting at above (though I think Raul may have misinterpreted me).
- A simple rule like "If you contribute substantially on a topic within the next $QUALIFYING_TIME_PERIOD, list it below. The judges will pick what the judge to be the best contribution and award it the Danny Prize." Leave it to the judges to pontificate on what weight to attach to the various features of the contribution (stub -> good article conversions, new articles, picking a requested articles). Pcb21| Pete 19:45, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
All of that could be the basis for a future contest, but as far as this contest goes, the crietria is new articles. Future contests might be held for stub improvement, best picture, etc. All in good time. Danny 19:48, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Data dumps
- Does turning a pure data dump (from CIA) into an article count? [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (talk)]] 23:52, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)
- Sorry, not in this contest. My next contest may be transforming a stub or a datadump into a great article, but this time, we're working on new articles. Danny 00:09, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- OK. Maybe next time an interesting project would be turing a "Geography of..." data dump into a featured article. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (talk)]] 04:06, Oct 12, 2004 (UTC)
- Sorry, not in this contest. My next contest may be transforming a stub or a datadump into a great article, but this time, we're working on new articles. Danny 00:09, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
What Google Likes
Since What Google Likes is technically part of Wikipedia:Requested articles, do those count for the contest? Or should we just "cheat" as recommended by the contest? -- McGravin 21:57, Oct 12, 2004 (UTC)