Talk:Fort Worth, Texas

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Transportation

Is there any particular reason why Transportation is a subheading of Economy? It seems like Transportation should be a heading of its own. - Thatdog 3 July 2005 02:53 (UTC)

UH Collegian took care of this. Thanks! - Thatdog 20:34, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Tandy Center Subway

There's no doubt that the Tandy Center Subway is an interesting piece of Fort Worth trivia, but should something that ceased to exist almost three years ago be called an attraction? Perhaps the article needs a new section for trivia/fun facts/etc. for this and other neat tidbits. - Thatdog 20:34, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds good to me. I've been trying to think what other trivial facts could be included. maltmomma 20:38, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

Here's some: Four of the subway cars are preserved in storage by North Texas Historic Transportation, Inc. (www.NorthtexasTransport.org) A fifth car still operates in Dallas on the McKinney Avenue Transportation Authority (www.mata.org). The only remaining streamlined car is currently undergoing restoration for static display at the Leonards Museum at 200 N. Carroll Street in Fort Worth.

City seal

If someone can find an image of the seal of Fort Worth, please upload it or put it on this talk page. I want to make a city infobox for Fort Worth and I need a seal to complete the infobox. Thanks! – UH Collegian 05:42, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You know, I've lived in Fort Worth most of my life and don't remember seeing a city seal. I did a quick search and couldn't come up with anything. There is a new city flag, do you have that? Here's the link - http://www.fortworthgov.org/cmo/pio/citypage/2004/cp2004706.asp#3 I'll email the city and see if they have a seal. Surely they do. maltmomma 19:29, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Got a quick response. Emailed the city and here's what they said: "Yes, our City Secretary uses it on all official documents, but because it is official, it is not available for purchase. You can come to the City Secretary's office to see what it looks like if you like or they might be able to send you a photocopy although I am not sure that is legal. You may want to check with them at 817/392-6150." I'm sure a picture of it is somewhere. All the other cities have theirs available. Hmmm, I can try calling them later. Gotta run now though. maltmomma 19:43, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Fascinating! I always assumed that Miss Molly was the only "seal" Fort Worth had since I've never seen anything else on civic forms. I hope they let you get a copy because I can't wait to see what it looks like! - Thatdog 19:57, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still trying to get a picture. I've had a couple of road blocks but hopefully I'll be able to get one. maltmomma 20:36, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

Finally came across the seal. Is there a spot for it on the main page? Maltmomma ^(chat) 00:41, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

I've implemented Template:Infobox City-NoFlag as a temporary solution. It can easily be switched over to Template:Infobox City once the seal is available. Thanks, Thatdog 06:02, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Local Politics

I have been thinking that it might useful to add a government section in this as well as other articles. Such information might include: the type of charter the city has, key positions within the city government mayor etc. Some of this information might deserve its own article over time. Any thoughts or ideas? --Robert Harrison^{talk contrib} 20:20, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Funkytown

Fort Worth is commonly referred to as "Funkytown" by Texas residents. I mentioned this, and the edit was reverted. Why?--147.124.49.89 14:38, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I've lived here in Fort Worth 38 years and I've never heard it called that nor have I heard of it called that outside of the city. Maltmomma ^(chat) 16:01, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I had never heard of this either, but I just punched fort worth funkytown into Google and apparently its true! Bizzare. Thatdog 17:47, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

One of the first results is FWWeekly. You can't tell me you guys have never picked up one of those. --147.124.49.89 18:33, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Crudely extrapolating from google: "Fort Worth" funkytown = 9,820 hits; "New York City" = 65,000; Seattle = 24,000; Chicago = 41,000; "Los Angeles" = 39,000; Atlanta = 20,000; "New Orleans" = 64,000; Austin = 29,000; "El Paso" = 12,000 hits. El_C 02:15, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have lived in Fort Worth my entire life and I have known exactly one other person who calls Fort Worth "Funkytown". He told me at the time that I worked with him that the term was popularized in the local/regional rap and hip-hop scene. I do not know if that assertion is true. As to if it should be included in this article, I shall remain silent. --Robert Harrison^{talk contrib} 04:27, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe put this information under trivia since it's not a widely known nickname plus the fact that other cities use the same nickname and it is more widely known in those places; i.e. above referenced numbers. There are 124,000 hits on Google for Cowtown Fort Worth and it is more widely known. Maltmomma ^(chat) 13:38, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have never heard it called Funkytown. Just because the Fort Worth Weekly calls it that in its MUSIC SECTION of all things doesn't make it true. I'm going to change it. Also, I don't know about you guys, but aside from a few walks through Sundance Square, who actually goes clubbing in Fort Worth? If Fort Worth is Funkytown, what does that make Dallas & Deep Ellum? Kade 19:14, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have a feeling many of you are older Texans/Fort Worth citizens. "Funkytown" is a nickname of Fort Worth. Do a google for "funkytown fort worth". It's right there. --66.190.72.175 00:17, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any information to verify this statement? "In more recent years, east Fort Worth has been referred to as "Funkytown" as well, mainly by urbanites. In the last two decades of the 20th century, when the Blood and Crip gangs started migrating from California, east Fort Worth was often referred to as "Murder Worth" or "Little Chicago", as hundreds of bodies started showing up with insufficient amounts of evidence required to bring those responsible to justice, thus increasing the murder rate. East Fort Worth has since then changed, as the size and skill of the police force has rapidly increased." I worked on the city contracted ambulance at the time and I don't remember there being 100's of murders nor the names it was called. I do however remember when the gangs started moving in to the area. Maltmomma ^(chat) 21:06, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lets kick this article up a notch.

This article looks like every other city-related article I've seen, pretty much bland except for statistics and tourist attractions. Could we possibly write a sub-section about the Bass family? I could go check out one of the books about them from the Fort Worth Central Library this week and reference it. I mean, they own the entirety of Sundance Square, as well as most of the skyscrapers, I don't think you can mention Fort Worth without the Bass's. Kade 19:21, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'd recommend doing separate articles instead; there's already a Sid Bass article (with link to a nonexistent Perry Bass one), and I could see doing a "Bass family" article since there's apparently not *one* centralized Bass company. (Along the same lines... I'm off to start a Sid W. Richardson article -- I'm surprised there's not one already!) -Hedgey42 03:49, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lead paragraphs

I rewrote the lead paragraphs entirely (now has three paragraphs with more information), formatted the article, and added a new infobox with the official logo of Fort Worth. I think we should transform some of the lists in this article into proses. Currently, there are too many lists and few proses. Just a suggestion. RJN 20:49, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good! I agree, it needs some sprucing up. Maltmomma ^(chat) 00:44, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No panther?

The famed "sleeping panther" story needs to figure in here somewhere – "Panther City" is still occasionally used as a nickname for Fort Worth (even by some businesses), and there are a couple of different statues in the city linked to it. – Hedgey42 05:12, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

History

This article needs to be improved in the history section. Just take a look at the history section of Dallas. There are even two articles entitled History of Dallas, Texas and Historical events of Dallas, Texas. We should improve the Fort Worth history section, including antebellum Fort Worth, the effect of the Civil War, historical population growth in the city, segregation (examples of that in Fort Worth), and so on. If we improve even one section we will eventually amount up to the Dallas article on Wikipedia. --Stallions2010 22:49, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]