Talk:Chester

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Requested move

Chester → Chester, England — There are more than thirty places named Chester or similar, and while the city in England is important, it is unlikely that most people looking for a place called Chester are looking for that one. Currently someone looking for one of the other Chesters by typing "Chester" comes here, has to go to a disambiguation page, and only then get to the place he wants to go. The Chester page should instead be the same as the Westport page: fewer hops for the user. This proposed move is to help make navigation of place-name articles less confusing. — Evertype 15:02, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Support as above. Evertype 15:02, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support. For what it's worth, we decided this as a general rule a couple of years back, but I'm not sure if it was ever enshrined in a written convention. Deb 16:30, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose NoelWalley 15:28, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose As at Newport, importance is not a linear function of population - historical significace matters too. The number of other Chesters matters not; would we move Paris if a sufficient number of small hamlets called Paris are founded? Should have we checked exactly how many insignificant nobodies were called, say, David Bowie before we put that article there? This article is still at the correct place for a truly historic (Roman!) city of regional and national importance. Aquilina 22:19, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Support. Given the large number of Chesters, there is no way you can not have most users being directed to wrong page without this change. Can anyone show that more then 50% of the Chesters being checked on are this one? Failing that, there is no proof that this article is the major use of this space and hence it should be moved and replaced by a dab page. Vegaswikian 05:29, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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Query about moving

Would anyone object if I moved this page to Chester, England? I don't know of any others in the UK. --Deb

Query about the City wall

I'm not sure about this: "Chester is an old city dating back to Roman times (when the City wall dates from)" - I thought the walls as we now see them are largely medieval with later rebuilds - is "dates from" maybe a bit misleading if it could be read as saying the walls are Roman, which I think they aren't? If what you are saying is that they are on the Roman plan or something (are they?) then maybe this could be clearer. Views please? Nevilley 19:35 Mar 23, 2003 (UTC)

Yes, the walls are largely medieval rebuilds but they do stand on the Roman plan, so you're probably right. Feel free to reword this if you find it misleading. --Silver plane

"Apparently some of the buildings off the main street appear to be far older than most people suspected. Perhaps even roman but it is unclear.--Son of Paddy's Ego 11:51, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Query about the zoo

Hmm, no talk about the zoo? --Kaihsu 16:27 Apr 16, 2003 (UTC)

Chester Zoo--Son of Paddy's Ego 11:51, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

List of Cestrians?

Is there a List of famous Cestrians? I was wondering after the news that Chester born Daniel Craig is the new James Bond. Others include Michael Owen, Duke of Westminster and Randolph Caldecott. smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk), (Recent Contrib)} 20:07, 14 October 2005 (UTC) [reply]

There is now.--Son of Paddy's Ego 13:29, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And Category:Cestrians for good measure. --Son of Paddy's Ego 13:29, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Rather short! Never mind, I've extended it a bit. smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 13:39, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I find the Cats are easier to edit.--Son of Paddy's Ego 13:43, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I don't suppose anyone from Chester City FC would count. None of them have articles and they're not exactly famous! smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 13:48, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a bad list for the sticks. Aren't some of Chester Cities ex Owners infamous?--Son of Paddy's Ego 13:52, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There was Terry Smith. He was an American who led the club to be kicked out of the league. He stayed for less than a year, and was born overseas. There's also Kevin Ratcliffe. Again, not born in Chester, but lived there for three or four years and he saved City from folding (and he even paid the entire stadium's £5000 water bill). Would either of them count? smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 13:59, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I was wrong. Several Chester players have articles. Mostly stubs, though. smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 13:59, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

If they have stubs it's worth putting thme in the Cat at least, otherwise how will people find them to add bits of info?, and perhaps creating a cat for Chester City's famous/infamous associates, which doesn't have a born in condition?--Son of Paddy's Ego 14:05, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Done! It's Category:Chester City FC

How do I delete categories!? It turns out that there's actually both Chester City Players and Chester City Managers. It's just that the stubs are so badly written that they don't tend to link to the right category. smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 14:17, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Just found that my self. Empty all the members from it, then put CFD in it between two pair of braces.--Son of Paddy's Ego 14:19, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

How far?

What sort of area would still be considered to be 'within Chester'? Waverton? Tarvin? And should areas in Wales such as Hawarden and Broughton be counted? smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 15:30, 18 October 2005 (UTC) [reply]

We certainly wouldn't want to claim any of Wales! I'd say Waverton yes, just about, but Tarvin no - but maybe others disagree.

Perhaps somebody could add a short section about the schools in Chester (Upton, Christleton, King's, Queen's, Bishops ...) with links to their websites at the bottom? ---- Jo, Cestrian in exile

I have started (See Chester Catholic High School and Queens Park High School), but I don't know much about the others. If you could help, try Blacon High School, Queen's School, Chester, The King's School, Chester, Bishop's School, Chester, Kingsway School or others. smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 18:51, 25 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Westchester

I found some archaic references to the city as 'West-Chester' or 'Westchester'. Not sure where to add this, though. Morwen - Talk 14:07, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chester was known as West Chester by Daniel Defoe in his 'Tour Through the Whole Island of Great Britain'. (early C18th) Suggest you mention it then. Gordonemery - Talk 13:20 15 July 2006

Photographs used on this page

Surely this page needs an image of the Eastgate Clock?

From the history of this page it looks as though someone with a connection to Grosvenor boat club has hi-jacked the page with a huge image of the boathouse, subsequently modified to a more sensible size. However there is also a picture of the weir. There is more to Chester than just the river.

I'm sure a picture of the Eastgate Clock is more relevant to people reading this site for Chester information than a picture of a boat house. If we do need two river scenes, the Queens Park suspension bridge with it's Hollyoaks connections surely holds wider appeal than the boat-house.

I'm happy to go out with the digital camera this weekend and do the business.

An image of Chester racecourse would also be a good advert for the city on here.

Does anyone think fresh images along these lines make sense, or would including the clock and the racecourse in preference to the boathouse just be enforcing stereotype images of Chester ahead of alternatives?

There are photos of both, but you'll have to look under Eastgate clock and Chester Racecourse respectively. I agree though that we don't need the picture of the boathouse though. smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 21:24, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cestrian

Is it worth mentioning here that 'Cestrian' can apply to anyone from Cheshire, not just Chester? Or would that be better on the Cheshire page? Ericatom 12:27, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't a Cestrian supposed to be someone who was born in Chester within the city walls, So it could apply to anyone in the world if they met that criteria.

Nightclubs

Five nightclubs? Five nightclubs? Being a 19 year old who has lived here all my life I'd love to know where these alleged nightclubs are. The only one I am aware of is RB's - formally Rosies. Perhaps you could argue that bar 6 T 9 is a nightclub because of it's late closing time, but considering it's the size of a shoebox I wouldn't argue that myself.