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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Bkell (talk | contribs) at 19:45, 8 August 2006 (Lebanese ambulance photo is a copyright violation, plain and simple). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

August 7

Uploaded by JensaaraiX (notify | contribs). UE (nonsense picture of what looks to be some drunkard or another) --EEMeltonIV 05:50, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Shy1520 (notify | contribs). WARNING: image NSFW - Not a book cover - presumably a photo from within the book, used to illustrate the subject BigDT 12:28, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
All uploaded by User:The Anomebot (bot maintainer has been informed that I'm posting these for deletion). OB, OR by these images on Commons. --Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 09:10, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
All uploaded by User:The Anomebot (bot maintainer has been informed that I'm posting these for deletion). OB, OR by these images on Commons. --Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 11:34, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Madiha 17 (notify | contribs). OR, probably not really a free image BigDT 12:44, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Madiha 17 (notify | contribs). Watermarked with "www.dctorrent.com". That is inappropriate for encyclopedic use. BigDT 12:45, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Hfortune (notify | contribs). OR, WP is not Wikisource BigDT 14:19, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Hfortune (notify | contribs). OR, WP is not Wikisource BigDT 14:20, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by [[User talk:User talk:Phw#Image:Dermotmorgan_chair.JPG listed for deletion|User talk:Phw]] ([{{fullurl:User talk:User talk:Phw|action=edit}} notify] | [[Special:Contributions/User talk:Phw|contribs]]). obsoleted by correctly rotated image Image:Dermot_Morgan_Memorial_Chair.jpg Phw 16:15, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Womenfitness (notify | contribs). Orphan, uploader has only contributed these images, all from http://www.womenfitness.net/. —Bkell (talk) 16:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Womenfitness (notify | contribs). Orphan, uploader has only contributed these images, all from http://www.womenfitness.net/. —Bkell (talk) 16:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Womenfitness (notify | contribs). Orphan, uploader has only contributed these images, all from http://www.womenfitness.net/. —Bkell (talk) 16:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Womenfitness (notify | contribs). Orphan, uploader has only contributed these images, all from http://www.womenfitness.net/. —Bkell (talk) 16:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Womenfitness (notify | contribs). Orphan, uploader has only contributed these images, all from http://www.womenfitness.net/. —Bkell (talk) 16:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Womenfitness (notify | contribs). Orphan, uploader has only contributed these images, all from http://www.womenfitness.net/. —Bkell (talk) 16:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Womenfitness (notify | contribs). Orphan, uploader has only contributed these images, all from http://www.womenfitness.net/. —Bkell (talk) 16:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Womenfitness (notify | contribs). Orphan, uploader has only contributed these images, all from http://www.womenfitness.net/. —Bkell (talk) 16:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Womenfitness (notify | contribs). Orphan, uploader has only contributed these images, all from http://www.womenfitness.net/. —Bkell (talk) 16:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Womenfitness (notify | contribs). Orphan, uploader has only contributed these images, all from http://www.womenfitness.net/. —Bkell (talk) 16:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Womenfitness (notify | contribs). Orphan, uploader has only contributed these images, all from http://www.womenfitness.net/. —Bkell (talk) 16:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Womenfitness (notify | contribs). Orphan, uploader has only contributed these images, all from http://www.womenfitness.net/. —Bkell (talk) 16:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Womenfitness (notify | contribs). Orphan, uploader has only contributed these images, all from http://www.womenfitness.net/. —Bkell (talk) 16:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Womenfitness (notify | contribs). Orphan, uploader has only contributed these images, all from http://www.womenfitness.net/. —Bkell (talk) 16:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Womenfitness (notify | contribs). Orphan, uploader has only contributed these images, all from http://www.womenfitness.net/. —Bkell (talk) 16:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Womenfitness (notify | contribs). Orphan, uploader has only contributed these images, all from http://www.womenfitness.net/. —Bkell (talk) 16:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Womenfitness (notify | contribs). Orphan, uploader has only contributed these images, all from http://www.womenfitness.net/. —Bkell (talk) 16:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Uploader not notified for the following images. Relisted from August 2. howcheng {chat} 17:41, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Uploaded by Hucz (notify | contribs). OR, UE Combination 21:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Hucz (notify | contribs). OR, UE Combination 21:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Hucz (notify | contribs). OR, UE Combination 21:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Hucz (notify | contribs). OR Combination 21:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Hucz (notify | contribs). OR Combination 21:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Hucz (notify | contribs). OR Combination 21:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Hucz (notify | contribs). OR Combination 21:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Hucz (notify | contribs). OR Combination 21:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Elohimgenius (notify | contribs). Orphan, redundant to Image:Flag of the United States.svg. —Bkell (talk) 17:47, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Starze (notify | contribs). Fair use image with the following rationale: "The rationale behind making this image ok is that there are countless websites redistributing this same public image." In other words, if everyone steals, it's OK if we steal too. howcheng {chat} 18:01, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Starze (notify | contribs). Same as above. howcheng {chat} 18:03, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Starze (notify | contribs). Same as above. howcheng {chat} 18:05, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Petrucci (notify | contribs). AB; Fair use image being only used for decoration. Violates WP:FAIR#Policy item 8. howcheng {chat} 18:30, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Jeremygbyrne (notify | contribs). AP photo, invalid example of fair use under WP:FAIR#Counterexamples #5, we really need a CSD for these things BigDT 18:34, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The image itself is "newsworthy" in that it was widely publicised and discussed, and depicts an important characteristic of the conflict (ie. the targeting of ambulances). Its removal would signficantly reduce the quality of the relevant article and, given its unique character and circumstances, could easily be mistaken for partisan censorship. — JEREMY 03:58, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the image is newsworthy. So newsworthy, in fact, that it was published by a news agency, which derives its income from selling such photos. We cannot violate the news agency's copyright by reproducing it here for free. This has nothing to do with partisan censorship; it has everything to do with copyright law. Please read Wikipedia:Fair use#Counterexamples (which BigDT has already linked to). —Bkell (talk) 04:53, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've read the counterexamples thoroughly, and responded above. Newsworthiness still trumps copyright. The image is unique and too important in the current context to be censored-in-anticipation for economic reasons. If AP complains that's a different matter, although I very much doubt they would. If you like, substitute a lower resolution version compatible with the current thumbnail display size. — JEREMY 05:09, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No. When the counterexample refers to photos themselves that are newsworthy, it means that there are news reports about the photograph (as opposed to news reports about whatever the photograph illustrates). If you're going to claim that this ambulance photo is itself newsworthy, then the article that uses it needs to explain the news reports about that particular photo. This photograph cannot be used to illustrate an article about ambulances being bombed, which is how it's being used now. This photograph could be used in an article about some uproar that was caused by this particular photograph. An example of a newsworthy photograph is the recent Reuters photograph of smoke rising from Beirut that was apparently altered [1]. Here, there are news reports about this particular photograph: they analyze the image itself, talk about how this instance of photo manipulation has called into question the integrity of other photos by that photographer, and so on. Do you see the difference? —Bkell (talk) 05:30, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
One favours Israel and the other doesn't? Seriously, the targeted removal of this image in the current political climate would encourage a political interpretation. If we receive any correspondence from the relevant news organisation, naturally we should consider it (and indeed, it would demonstrate to all but the most paranoid that this isn't part of some Vast Right Wing Conspiracy to hide evidence of Israeli misdeeds), but this kind of proactive self-censorship in a circumstance where the fair use validity of the image is open to debate is not helpful to the project. — JEREMY 06:38, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I have no hidden political agenda here. I am, believe it or not, entirely neutral about the Israel–Lebanon conflict, mainly because I avoid watching the news or reading newspapers. Similar copyright violations, of images "from both sides" of the conflict, have been deleted for the same reason. See Image talk:Child female victim of the 2006 Israeli Airstrike on Qana.jpg for an example from each side. —Bkell (talk) 06:55, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not accusing you of having an agenda. However, deletion of this particular iconic image from the article section it uniquely illustrates (ie. for which no free source exists) would be readily interpreted as political. The examples in your link are not unique representations of the things they depict, and thus the analogy is invalid. This is an image for which no substitute exists; myriad examples of similar fair use can be found on wikipedia. If AP objects, then fine (although that in and of itself might be newsworthy). For us to self-censor on economic grounds because we're afraid that they might object makes no sense at all in this particular circumstance. — JEREMY 07:05, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You miss the point of the Wikipedia fair-use policy. It's not solely to cover our asses for economic or legal reasons, because in reality it's rather unlikely that any particular copyright holder will even bother to contact us about a copyright violation, much less take the matter to court. The fair-use policy exists because one of the primary goals of Wikipedia is to be an encyclopedia of free content that anyone can use for any purpose. Obviously, since this ambulance photo is copyrighted, it is not free content that anyone can use for any purpose. Wikipedia policy is intentionally very strict about such images. Also, the first item of the policy, which states that fair-use images must have no free alternatives available, does not mean that any image with no free alternatives available automatically qualifies as fair use, even if it significantly improves a Wikipedia article. Every fair-use image must also satisfy all nine of the other criteria. In this case, it is the second criterion that is being violated: "The material should not be used in a manner that would likely replace the original market role of the original copyrighted media." That is the reasoning behind the fifth counterexample. There are plenty of precedents on Wikipedia for deleting photographs that came from news agencies. This is just like all the previous cases. —Bkell (talk) 07:25, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I realise that the image can't be re-used on commercial wikipedia spin-offs; it can, however, be used on wikipedia. Its use on wikipedia is in no way "likely [to] replace the original market role of the original copyrighted media" and, like many similar press photo images in wikipedia, its encyclopaedic value is more significant than the potentially negative results of its inability to be reused by commercial re-use. I have now replaced it with a lo-res version ensure that it retains as little commercial value as possible, and hope this is satisfactory. — JEREMY 08:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
We are taking the image from the Associated Press, which is in the business of selling such photos, without paying them for it, and claiming that we can do so legally just because it happens to illustrate an article that we're writing. That's a violation of copyright. If it wasn't, why wouldn't newspapers do the same thing? —Bkell (talk) 19:45, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Luckymama58 (notify | contribs). OR, Low quality image where there are plenty of free images available BigDT 19:03, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Lieutenant Blue (notify | contribs). Orphan (except for user page), no source. Copyright tag says: "This image is copyrighted. The copyright holder allows anyone to use it for any purpose, provided that artist is notified prior to use, and permission is requested", which seems to defeat the point of the {{CopyrightedFreeUseProvidedThat}} tag. —Bkell (talk) 19:13, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Irfanfaiz (notify | contribs). OR, URL doesn't exist, but it is unlikely that it was a government website BigDT 19:13, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Irfanfaiz (notify | contribs). OR, UE BigDT 19:15, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Nfox (notify | contribs). OR, UE BigDT 19:17, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Luisdile02 (notify | contribs). OR, UE BigDT 19:19, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by SamwiseG (notify | contribs). Issue not notable, redundant for other fair use rationale- HKMARKS 19:21, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by GilliamJF (notify | contribs). Ugly orphaned JPEG image redundant to Image:Laos coa.png. —Bkell (talk) 19:51, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Gooday.1 (notify | contribs). Orphaned, redundant to Image:business plate.svgWwagner 20:48, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Hardouin (notify | contribs). Orphaned, redundant to Image:Flag of Marseille.svgWwagner 20:58, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by DynaBlast (notify | contribs). Redundant to Image:Intel Logo.svg, only remaining use is a test page in user space — Wwagner 21:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Cheung1303 (notify | contribs). Redundant to Image:KCR.svg, only remaining uses are user sandbox pages — Wwagner 21:36, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Animereadabouter2 (notify | contribs). Unused anywhere. Additionally, PD-release for a logo seems awfully doubtful. BrownCow • (how now?) 21:42, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Derkom (notify | contribs). Contains an image whose usage does not seem to be compatible with its licensing terms (see Image:CheHigh.jpg for details). Also, the page in which it is used (Fenerbahche) is proposed for deletion. BrownCow • (how now?) 21:52, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Vghistorian (notify | contribs). Unused. BrownCow • (how now?) 22:20, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Vghistorian (notify | contribs). Same as above. BrownCow • (how now?) 22:24, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Vghistorian (notify | contribs). Same as above. BrownCow • (how now?) 22:25, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Vghistorian (notify | contribs). Same as above. BrownCow • (how now?) 22:34, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Vghistorian (notify | contribs). Same as above. BrownCow • (how now?) 22:35, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Vghistorian (notify | contribs). Same as above. BrownCow • (how now?) 22:35, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Vghistorian (notify | contribs). Same as above. BrownCow • (how now?) 22:42, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Vghistorian (notify | contribs). Same as above. BrownCow • (how now?) 23:06, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Howardschwartz (notify | contribs). Unused user vanity image. BrownCow • (how now?) 22:34, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Ashleymiller (notify | contribs). Article associated with image (Jayram Menon) is about to be deleted (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jayram Menon). BrownCow • (how now?) 22:53, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by RaviC (notify | contribs). Orphaned, redundant to Image:NCSA Mosaic.pngWwagner 22:59, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by SGBailey (notify | contribs). Orphaned, redundant to Image:STOP.svgWwagner 23:04, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Joeferret (notify | contribs). OR SchuminWeb (Talk) 23:19, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Joeferret (notify | contribs). OR, and most likely also UE SchuminWeb (Talk) 23:23, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by AndyL (notify | contribs). Ugly orphaned JPEG. No source. Once upon a time I had marked this image as redundant to Image:Qcensign.jpg, which has since been deleted with a comment of "non commercial image; bad jpeg image". I suspect that this deleted image came from FOTW (hence the "non commercial" label); I marked Image:Oldquebecflag.jpg redundant, probably indicating that they were the same image; and so this image probably also came from FOTW. The FOTW image looks different, but it's a GIF, so maybe the differences arose when it was converted to a JPEG. But I'm conjecturing here. The important thing is that this is an ugly orphaned JPEG with no source. —Bkell (talk) 23:29, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Xerocs (notify | contribs). Orphaned, redundant to Image:Purpleheart rib.pngWwagner 23:51, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Xerocs (notify | contribs). Orphaned, redundant to Image:USAF NCO PME Graduate Ribbon.pngWwagner 23:55, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded by Marine 69-71 (notify | contribs). Orphaned, redundant to Image:PRimmigrationchart.pngWwagner 00:01, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]