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Some conventions:

  1. Certain Secretaries of State may be shortened (Northern Secretary, Foreign Secretary, War Secretary, etc.).
  2. Use the peerage conventions that we use for position navboxes - affix a "The" in front of those who were peers in their own right ("The Duke of Wellington"; "The Viscount Whatever"), and change Baron to Lord. Courtesy peers should not have a "the." ("Lord North", "Viscount Castlereagh").
  3. Terms should not be longer than the ministry - ex. if a ministry went from 1700 to 1720, and someone served from 1680 to 1725, the term should read "1700–1720", not "1680–1725".
    On further thought, I think this convention should be struck. It allows you to see, especially in the early ministries, who retained the confidence of the monarch and who didn't. ugen64 22:58, Oct 9, 2004 (UTC)

But I think most of these are pretty easy to see. ugen64 00:20, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC)

We need to give careful consideration to the terms of office (amongst other things). Under Prime Ministers, members of the government are considered to have resigned whenever a PM does - so, their terms cannot exceede those of the life of that government. If they continue into the next government, they are reappointed. That was not the case here, and I'm worried about creating a false impression. An laternative (that I've just used on Privy Council Ministry, is to list terms as throughout the ministry in question, or "to/from" a certain date if there was a change within the ministry. Does that work? -- Gregg 05:48, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I would like to add the following convention:

  1. In lists, first mention the head(s) of the government, i.e., the "Prime Ministers." Prior to 1905, when the office of Prime Minister became official, do not use the term "Prime Minister" in the table.
  2. After head(s) of the ministry come the other officers in order of precedence or importance: 1st, Great Officers of State; 2d, Officers of the Royal Household; 3d Secretaries of State; 4th Chancellor of the Exchequer; 5th Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster; 6th Others. -- Emsworth 23:27, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
But isn't the Chancellor of the Exchequer often the second most important member of the ministry (i.e. Gordon Brown), as he is also Second Lord of the Treasury? ugen64 03:06, Oct 8, 2004 (UTC)
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