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--WillMak050389 03:39, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ENOUGH WITH THE POOR PICS

STOP
UPLOADING
POORLY EXPOSED
CRAP PICS
OF CARS
TAKEN FROM THE REAR
WITH YOUR FINGER VISIBLE IN THEM
FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING THAT IS HOLY. {This comment was left by User:DonIncognito)

STOP THE POOR PICS

WHY CAN'T YOU TAKE A PICTURE OF A CAR FROM THE FRONT? I EFFORTLESSLY TAKE PICTURES OF CARS FROM THE FRONT BECAUSE I DON'T GO LOOKING FOR THEM IN CROWDED PARKING LOTS! YOU THINK THAT ANY CRAP WILL QUALIFY AS A GOOD PIC, BUT IT WONT! LOOK AT THE IMAGES Image:Cars 008.jpg and Image:Cars 011.jpg SEE, I TOOK A IMAGE OF A CAR FROM THE FRONT, AND I'M STILL ALIVE. THESE IMAGES ACTUALLY ILLUSTRATE THE ARTICLE INSTEAD OF CLUTTERING THEM UP WITH NONSENSE! I AM SO FED UP WITH YOUR CRAPPY PICS! IF YOU KNOW WHATS GOOD FOR YOU, YOU WILL TAKE A GOOD PIC, USING THE TWO I POSTED AS EXAMPLES (mainly the Escort) GOT IT! MAKE A GOOD PIC FOR THE SAKE OF ALL THAT IT HOLY!Karrmann 13:28, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I really don't want to shout, but I need you to please listen to us and STOP uploading poor quality pictures. You are getting us so frustrated to the point where some people need to yell at you. We welcome your contributions under your new name, but this ("this" meaning not listening to us) is not acceptable in the least bit. --ApolloBoy 00:42, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I thought I told you to stop

Ok, I will be civil. Stop now. NO MORE POOR QUALITY PICS. No more [ictures of the car from the back. No more pictures of cars sitting in traffic. No more pictures of cars in driveways facing garages. No more pictures of cars in bad lighting. JUST STOP! If you don't comply, then further action will have to be taken. Karrmann 02:18, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You know, Montréal is one of my favorite cities. I wish I could live there year-round. There are so many fun things to do there, but wandering through parking lots taking pictures of banged-up cars from the rear isn't one of them. May I suggest Biéres et Cie (coin St-Denis & Marie-Anne) or Réservoir (coin St-Laurent & Duluth)? DonIncognito 03:14, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We've told you once, and we'll tell you again Bull-Doser, STOP adding poor quality pictures. We want you to listen to us, but it seems as if you're ignoring us... --ApolloBoy 20:06, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where Are You From?

Where is Don Incognito from, Toronto?

Bull-Doser 04:12, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No Sir, I live in Miami :-) DonIncognito 04:26, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Pre-2004 Avalons

Weren't the pre-2004 Avalons midsize cars? Now Toyota's got 2 midsize cars, the Camry & the Prius.

Bull-Doser 01:59, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, the Avalon was never a mid-size. --ApolloBoy 02:18, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dodge's Cars

First off, the Shadow & Colt were subcompacts. The Colt surpassed the Shadow in size for '92, because the Colt was still considered a subcompact. The Spirit was a compact, and its twins were the LeBaron & Acclaim, and were competitors of other compacts at the time (Accord, Corsica, Stanza, Tempo, etc.). The Accord became a midsize in 1994. The Dynasty & Monaco were midsize cars.

Bull-Doser 17:11, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are right about the Colt being a subcompact, but the Shadow was a compact, not a subcompact. The Spirit, LeBaron sedan and Acclaim are mid-sized. Don't assume a car is a certain class just because its competitors were of a different class. Please stop doing this. Thanks. --ApolloBoy 19:49, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Last warning

What you are continuing to do is not acceptible anymore. It is less of your pics and more of your attitude. We tried to be nice, but you just ignored us and uploaded the same bad pics, despite numerous warnings. Your pics compromise the integrity of every article they appear in. If you continue, you can be temporarly blocked, as you have everybody really ticked off. Karrmann 21:30, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that you went through the liberty of uploading more bad pictures. I see you posting on your talk page, so you visit here, and you see our messages, but you do not choose to read them, and that has a lot of members in flames. So let me reiderate: NO MORE PICTURES OF CARS WITH PEOPLE IN THEM, MO MORE PICTURES OF CARS FROM THE BACK, NO MORE PICTURES OF CARS IN CROWDED PARKING LOTS, NO PICTURES OF CARS PASSING BY IN THE STREET, NO MORE PICTURES OF CARS IN TRAFFIC, NO MORE PICTURES OF BANGED UP CARS. Got it? If this doesn't penetrate, then we could use force to stop you from uploading bad pictures. Karrmann 13:29, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that you uploaded ANOTHER bad pic, even after my warnings. PLEASE STOP. Karrmann 01:49, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Getting there

Hi, I looked over the past few pictures you uploaded, and they're getting better. The resolution is now much better and you have blocked out the license plates and added the corrected licensing tags. While that's great, there are just a few more things to consider. If you could start photographing the cars from the front and make sure the car is clean and well maintained your pics would be much better. I think if you could take more picures like that of the 2003-05 Honda Pilot you uploaded recently, your edits would be much more appreciated. Thanks for contributing. Regards, Signature^brendel 17:46, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You Killed The Sequoia Image I Took!

So Bavaria, willya look on Consumerguide for a Sequoia image?

Bull-Doser 14:15, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The image was not a good one. More pics like that Pilot above would be great. DonIncognito 23:01, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Entry Compact SUV Competition

This is for companies only with more than 1 compact SUV. I won't include HHR & xB, due to the fact they're station wagons or hatchbacks.

Ford Escape/Mazda Tribute (I won't include Mariner due to Mercury being a semi-luxury division)
Honda Element
Jeep Compass
Nissan X-Trail (I wonder if the 2nd gen of this one shares the Sentra platform?)
Suzuki SX4
Toyota RAV4

Bull-Doser 00:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pontiac G5

Regarding your last change.. the Pontiac G5 and Chevrolet Cobalt are related. The G5 is not known as the Cobalt in the US. The Cobalt is also sold in Canada, and the G5 will be sold in the US this summer. If a car is sold under a different brand or model outside of its home market, that is an "a.k.a." - for example, the Daewoo Magnus from South Korea is sold as the Chevrolet Epica in Canada, and the Suzuki Verona in the US, since Daewoo as a brand is no longer in either country. When two similar cars or brands are sold in the same market (country), that makes them "related" instead. Does this make sense? --Vossanova ^o< 11:54, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Verona & Epica are both sold in Canada. In the U.S. the Aerio (while a compact car) competes with subcompacts, while in Canada (where it's got the Swift+ instead of the Forenza) it competes with compacts. The U.S. couldn't sell the Swift+, since the Aerio is served as the entry-level model, and the Forenza (which replaced the Suzuki Esteem & Daewoo Nubira for the U.S.) competes with compacts in the U.S. I know the Aerio was replaced by the Esteem. However, I heard on MSN News Suzuki will be dropping the Verona due to poor sales, and I think it'll be replaced by the Suzuki Tosca.

Bull-Doser 14:12, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, but it was just an example, I wanted to be clear regarding the G5/Cobalt relationship - that North American, Pontiac/Chevy "badge engineered" siblings go under "related" - also see Pontiac Sunfire. --Vossanova ^o< 15:34, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GM platform successors

In the mid-1980s, here's what those platforms became. One platform became two platforms, just like when the GM A platform (RWD) became the G-body and the FWD A-body. The GM G platform (RWD) was succeded into 2 platforms -- the mid-size W platform (introduced in 1988) we all know of, and the GM H platform (FWD) introduced in 1986, although it would overlap for 3 years with the GM G platform (RWD). Most RWD G-body cars moved to the W platform, although the Pontiac Bonneville moved to the FWD H-body. And the GM X platform was succeded by the N platform (where the Buick, Olds & Pontiac compacts went), and the Citation became the Corsica on the L-body. I recently updated the GM G platform (RWD) and GM H platform (FWD) pages to lists its successors/predecessors.

Bull-Doser 17:47, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where I live?

You sick b-st-rd! You have no right to know where I live. Asking private questions like that will get you into serious trouble. Bavaria 13:07, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can we drop the insult, please? I know you're concerned, but it doesn't give you the right to call him a "sick bastard". --ApolloBoy 17:00, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, seriously, chill out dude. It's not like telling him your home state or town constitutes any sort of threat. He's probably being friendly, and it's not like he's asking for your bloody address. DonIncognito 05:05, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your Images

After editing and improving the few salvageable images in your recent batch of uploads, your utter inability to take an attractive photograph of an automobile (proper angle, exposure, colors, cropping, etc.) continues to completely baffle me. If you would do us the honor of at least acknowledging our issues with your images, we could work together to improve their quality. Your stonewalling of everyone on this matter is likewise incomprehensible. DonIncognito 19:28, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This ignoring of us and your continuing uploading of poor quality images of badly exposed cars from the back has to stop this instant. You are acting like uploading a good picture will kill you. When you upload pictures of grimy cars from the back, in bright sunlight, it does not do a good jpb of illustrating the article, and when I look at the pictures you take, My eyes wander off looking at the other cars and the scenery, distracting me from the subject automobile it'self. Please answer us on this issue, because your ignoring us and you uploading pictures of poorly exposed cars, and placing them as head images may just be good enough for a Vandalism in progress report, so I hope that convinces you to stop. Karrmann 02:21, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lincoln's Replacements

Now, let's see if the flagship Lincoln MKS gets a limo after the Town Car dies. The MKS will be a fullsize car, and will be larger than the 2007 model year Lexus LS in length.

Entry-Level: Versailles -> Continental (Downsized) -> LS -> Zephyr/MKZ
Top-Line: Continental -> Town Car -> MKS

Lincoln will be back to 2 sedans again since 2000-02, and 2006 was the only 4 years Lincoln had 3 sedans.Bull-Doser 04:29, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Town Car is NOT going to die, production will move to where the Ford Crown Victoria and the Mercury Grand Marquis are made. Karrmann 11:22, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No. On the Town Car page, Ford does not plan to move the Town Car to St. Thomas (listed on a news article), likely for the Town Car to end production permanently.

Bull-Doser 12:48, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wierd, because the Town Car is one of Lincoln's best selling models. Karrmann 14:26, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The MKS will be similar in size to a Q45, 7-Series or Lexus LS, but will be shorter than the DTS.Bull-Doser 00:33, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes the MKS is much smaller than the Town Car or DTS, but comparable to size to the 7-Series. Here is the Lincoln history:

Entry-level: Versailler -> LS V6 -> Zephyr -> MKZ

Mid-level: Continental -> LS V8 -> MKZ (upscale trim)

Top-of-the-line: Contiental -> Town Car -> MKS

Personal Lux: Mark -> LS -> MKZ (the sport sedan are also aimed at this audience)

FYI: It is expected that limo version of the Chrysler 300C will become a new favorite among livery services, the MKS might also be streched, but the body on frame design, which makes the Town Car so easy to stretch and is the primary reason for its poularity among livery services will be retires thus making the MKS as difficult to stretch as any other luxury car. Regards, Signature^brendel 21:43, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dodge Neon Page Update

Okay. Now that the Plymouth Sundance page is seperate from the Dodge Shadow page, I just added a link for the Plymouth Sundance on the Dodge Neon's predecessors.

Bull-Doser 02:58, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Now, Breaking Chevrolet News

The Chevette was discontinued in 1987, and the subcompact Chevrolet Spectrum and Chevrolet Sprint (renamed Geo Spectrum and Geo Metro for 1989) were considered its successors. The Toyota Corolla-based Nova was considered a Citation successor, although the Citation's true successors were the Corsica sedan & hatchback and Beretta sport compact coupe.

Bull-Doser 03:25, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sunfire's Predecessors

In North America, the Pontiac Sunfire replaced both the Pontiac LeMans/Asuna SE and Pontiac Sunbird. But didn't it also replace the Asuna Sunfire?

Bull-Doser 19:55, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sunfire replaced Sunbird, and that's it. The LeMans had no predecessor nor successor. --93JC 15:09, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lexus

Since when is the ES 300/330 a small car? Oh and it's also not necessary to link every instance of a year or country name in an automotive article. Keep your links relevant. DonIncognito 17:29, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The ES was the entry-level Lexus until 2001. Bull-Doser 22:34, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nevertheless, that doesn't make it a small car. DonIncognito 07:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don is right, the ES is a mid-size. The position a car takes in a marque's line-up is not neccessarily related to its actual size. The Lincoln LS was hardly a small car, yet it was the entry-level Lincoln. Regards, Signature^brendel 21:37, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New batch of pics

Most of your new batch of car photos are very nice. Keep up the good work! A couple of suggestions: If taking a picture in bright sunlight, lower the exposure on your camera or try to avoid direct reflections of the sun. That would improve your camera's ability to focus on the car. Also, after you have taken the picture, try cropping the photo so as to draw the focus to the car and not the surroundings. Merci! DonIncognito 07:28, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's why I got into using ACDSee Pro 8.1; it is slightly smaller in size than Photoshop. Bull-Doser 07:29, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, your images really have improved! Keep it up! --ApolloBoy 00:16, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your continuing image contributions. A tip: For better results, try to increase the contrast in your pictures, and also try not to have direct reflections in your camera. For example, looks much nicer than DonIncognito 01:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ford Tempo Page Images

For the first time, the first-generation Ford Tempo sedan is shown on the Ford Tempo page. I also added the Tempo coupe there. Bull-Doser 21:24, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ConsumerGuide Images

By continuing as an automobile photographer, I will post images from ConsumerGuide for cars that were never sold in Canada, and post differently-badged images for the U.S. Bull-Doser 23:50, 7 July 2006 (EST)

Neon Page Undergone Update!

Here on the Dodge Neon page, I've added a gallery of images, including the Dodge/Chrysler/Plymouth Neon variants. There is now only one fair use image, which is the U.S. market 2000-02 Dodge Neon. And I've moved the second-generation column to the way bottom. Bull-Doser 00:10, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The 1980 Mazda 626

Here then, I updated the Mazda 626 page. I uploaded a 1980 Mazda 626 (which was photographed outside my old house in 1990), and scanned it for 2006. The second-generation 626 is uploaded there as well! Bull-Doser 21:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lincoln's First Rebadged Ford

Hi, wasn't it the Lincoln Mark VII (1980s) that was the first rebadged Ford? I know it was a rebadged Ford Thunderbird that time.

Bull-Doser 22:35, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, the Lincoln Versailles was. FYI: The iterior of a Mark VII diffes greatly from the Thunderbird. Signature^brendel 17:24, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, most of the Mark VII's body panels are not shared with the T-Bird. --ApolloBoy 19:21, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Acuras, Lexuses, Mercedes, Etc.

TSX & CSX Vs. IS Vs. C-Class
TL Vs. ES Vs. E-Class
RL Vs. GS Vs. CLS-Class
LS Vs. S-Class

The current C-Class is a compact car. The Acura TL is similar in length to an E-Class. Mercedes brought the CLS-Class as a fighter for the Lexus GS, Acura RL & Cadillac STS.

Bull-Doser 03:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Japanese vehicles tend to be cheaper than German vehicles. For example the LS competes for colsely in price, and according to Forbes also in handling with TC or DTS, than the S-Class. Yet it is a flaghsip sedan and thereby also directed at the S-Class.

Also, consider that the TSX is a rebadged European Honda Accord, it competes w/ the MB B-Class, which is not sold in North America yet. Regards, Signature^brendel 17:23, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd consider the B-Class a CSX competitor, and both the B-Class & CSX are sold in Canada. Bull-Doser 19:22, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The B-Class is not a CSX competitor. Don't be ridiculous. The B-Class is a compact MPV, not a sedan, and competes with cars such as the Opel Zafira and Renault Scénic. There is no equivalent to it in North America. --Pc13 20:16, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're right only in terms of price is the B-Class an Acura competitor. I still think the TSX is not quite a competitor for the C-Class. Interesting though- the B Class is sold in Canada. Signature^brendel 22:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Acadia/Enclave/Outlook Info!

First off, the Acadia/Enclave/Outlook are all full-size SUVs. The TB/Envoy will continue as competition for the 4Runner & Explorer, while the Acadia/Enclave/Outlook would compete with a Ford Expedition, Nissan Armada & Toyota Sequoia.

Bull-Doser 02:09, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dodge Successors Of The 80's/90's

The Shadow only replaced the Charger & Omni. The Spirit replaced the Aries & Lancer. The Dynasty replaced the 600 & Diplomat. Even the LeBaron was a rebadged Aries, and after 1990 became a rebadged Spirit. And the pre-1988 New Yorker was based on the 600, and the post-1989 New Yorker became a Dynasty. Because the Shadow was a hatchback, it did NOT replace the Aries sedan. It replaced the Charger & Omni as the "hatchback" Dodge.

Bull-Doser 17:07, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Daytona replaced the Charger, not the Shadow. BTW, sorry I was so hard on you. Karrmann 18:58, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No it didn't. The Charger was released in 1983, and the Daytona in 1984. The Daytona's predecessor was the Mitsubishi-based Challenger. Bull-Doser 19:14, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Erm...what is it with all these imaginative edits you're making regarding Chrysler Corp. passenger car lineage? Omni replacing Dart/Aspen, Horizon replacing Valiant/Volaré? Absolutely not. No way, nohow, not even if you read it in ConsumerGuide. Please, don't make random edits just to create extra work for others. Scheinwerfermann 02:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Summaries

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Thanks, and happy editing.

This isn't to devalue your contributions or anything. They're just fine. Coincidentally, I'm refering to edits to Buick Park Avenue

Thanks and Regards, Alphachimp ^talk 00:57, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help

I appreciate that you've inserted some of my Commons photos into their appropriate articles when I never got around to doing so. I like the idea of there being a second opinion that the image is good enough to go into its article, and someone else putting it in is definite confirmation. Plus, it gets the articles up-to-date faster and relieves the rush of one person trying to fit everything in. Thanks again. IFCAR 10:48, 21 July 2006 (UTC) [reply]

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Also posted at User talk:Take Me Higher, but I was informed by User:Karrmann that you don't read that any more. —Bkell (talk) 13:42, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IFCAR Vs. Bull-Doser Vs. Bavaria

IFCAR - Only uploads free images
Bull-Doser - Uploads free & fair images
Bavaria - Only uploads fair images

And the winner is? Stay tuned! -- Bull-Doser 20:18, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you comparing them, I'm confused. Karrmann 20:27, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I like your comical way of putting this situation. Bavaria 21:28, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Ford Ranger

Just wanted to say thank you for fixing the link to that image. Also wanted to ask why you pit in this line: "In 2005, the Toyota Tacoma took over from the Ranger the best-selling small pickup." I don't believe that it belongs on the ford Ranger page, if it belongs anywhere it is on a Toyota Tacoma page. Josh 17:58, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If the Chevrolet Silverado began to outsell the Ford F-150, it would be on the Ford F-150 page. It's relevent to the car's market position. IFCAR 09:43, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok I think I can accept that fact, but where did this information come from? I just did a search and everything I've come up with still states that the Ranger was the best seller in 2005. Just trying to keep the facts straight and fair, if you are going to make that claim I would like to see a source. Josh 18:08, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can't recall last year's data, but I don't doubt its accuracy. The Tacoma's sales for last month, which I have seen recently, were in the neighborhood of 50% higher than the Ranger's. IFCAR 18:24, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry but this isn't a guessing game here. Dosn't matter wether or not you doubt it's accuracy or if the Tacoma has higher numbers for last month, that is discussing last year. I do doubt it's accuracy I've been searching and have found nothing that states that the tacoma was the best selling in 2005 but have found numerous that say that point to Ranger. This really belongs more in the Tacoma page anyway. You just say that it took over in 2005 you didn't say anything about the Ranger's over 20 years as the best seller. Josh 18:54, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that the Ranger was the best seller for that long and was recently unseated deserves mention here, even if it isn't obvious how recently. IFCAR 23:51, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And the DAKOTA had outsold the Ranger once! -- Bull-Doser 05:19, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Who gives a **** if the Dakota outsold it once, that's not the topic of discussion here. We are discussing the Tacoma replacing the Ranger as best seller in 2005, which you still haven't showed me any proof of. Yall are just going to show what I've thaught since I joined this place, a user editable encyclopedia is a very bad idea. If this discussion is any sign as to what yall put into the articles yall work on, how the hell do yall belong on a project to further the resources here. Whatever... yall go on and **** up the pages as much as you want to I nolonger give a ****. Since yall started messing with the Ford Ranger page all you've done is to run off knowledgable people who know more about the Rangers than you'll ever hope to know. Josh 20:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please stay calm and civil while commenting or presenting evidence, and do not make personal attacks. Be patient when approaching solutions to any issues. If consensus is not reached, other solutions exist to draw attention and ensure that more editors mediate or comment on the dispute.

--ApolloBoy 06:10, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Civil!!! I'll be civil as soon as you learn WTH you are talking about. It is kinda hard to be civil when every thing you fix gets deleted by the same bunch that that is supposed to be for the improvement of wikipedia automobile pages. Oh and I'm not getting hot headed merely at a single person, but at everymember of the group that is doing the same thing, and at the website (encyclopedia if you prefer) that's allowing it to continue.

Read this please. "If you don't want your material to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit it." --ApolloBoy 04:28, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Spirit

Please look at Dodge Spirit again, you and I are right. You've run into Wiki-bad-guys too?? --matador300 00:01, 25 July 2006 (UTC) See my talk page, maybe you'll recognize some of the tactics I've noticed too. The Spirit even looks like a K-car.[reply]

"The Spirit even looks like a K-car"...? Are you seriously advancing this as proof of your revisionist view that Spirit replaced Aries? If so, and you cling to that "proof", then you've got trouble headed your way; almost every passenger car Chrysler Corp made from 1981 through 1993 looked like a K-car. Scheinwerfermann 01:52, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The spirit replaced the Dodge Lancer and 600 as it's mid priced sedan, slotted between the Dynasty and the Shadow. The Shadow replaced the Aries as Dodge's compact. Karrmann 16:03, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Guys, what are your original sources, or did you simply make this up? There are 3 different internet sources that contradict you, and none that support your position. Who first thought up this theory, who is not embarrased to admit that they constructed this non-fact almost out of thin air. Interesting theory, but it's original research unless you can cite someone outside of WP who came up with the same idea. WP is the only source on the internet or in print that makes this claim. --matador300 19:55, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nissan Maxima

STOP changing the Nissan Maxima page in regards to the official competition for the Maxima. According to Consumer Reports, the Maxima competes with the HONDA ACCORD and TOYOTA CAMRY, NOT the Hyundai Azera and Toyota Avalon, as you keep attempting to edit.

Rarelibra 19:03, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Again, please stop the random edits on the Nissan Maxima page without doing proper research. Further attempts will be reported. Rarelibra 21:28, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki links

Hi, Bull-Doser. I noticed that you still wiki link [[dates]]- this pratice has however been discontinued, It is now considered somwhat inappropriate to wiki link dates as they are irrelevant to the article's subject matter. I though you might want ot know. Regards, Signature^brendel 22:51, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop with the North American bias

Any time you replace European and Japanese market cars or international car names with North America-specific names from the list of competitors, or replace international line-up information with specific North American market information, I'll revert you without discussion. --Pc13 12:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Edge vs. Freestar

There are two rather obvious reasons that the Edge is not the successor to the Freestar. 1: The Edge is a midsize 5-passenger crossover, while the Freestar is a 7-passenger ful size minivan. 2: The Freestar is still being sold, so it has not been replaced. It is slated to be replaced (when it actually is) by a production version of the Fairlane concept. (I'm putting this here instead of creating a discussion page on either the Edge or Freestar articles, it's more likely to be noticed here.) IFCAR 11:42, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Volvo S80 picture

Why did you replace the nice picture of a Volvo S80 with one of more poor quality? --Dahlis 14:57, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

he does it a lot. Once, on the Toyota Camry article, he replaced the (very good) head image with one of his pics, which was of the back of a banged up 89 Camry done in direct shade. Karrmann 19:25, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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