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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Denny (talk | contribs) at 08:39, 27 June 2004 (→Content moved: thanks for condensing). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Content moved

Big parts of this talk page has been moved to the new Talk Pages of the History of Croatia-series articles. Refer to Talk:History of modern Croatia, Talk:Independent State of Croatia, Talk:Croatia in the second Yugoslavia and Talk:Medieval Croatian state to see them.

By the way, it would be nice, if this page could become even shorter now that the content got seperated into a number of own articles. Especially the Habsburg and modern time Croatia parts are still far too long (especially in regard to the other times). I tried to shorten them already, some more work in this direction would be great. --denny vrandečić 15:01, Jun 26, 2004 (UTC)

I think that it should all be cut out. There's not much reason for all the duplication, i.e. either have it all in one or all separate. --Shallot 17:44, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)
No, don't cut it all out. There should be a short overview article like this one. And I think the differences in the texts of this page and the detail pages will grow bigger with time, and redundancy will decrease. --denny vrandečić 08:39, Jun 27, 2004 (UTC)
I've now condensed the content myself and I think it's okay. It could probably be condensed further. --Shallot 21:59, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for that. Now it's about the size I hoped to achieve. --denny vrandečić 08:39, Jun 27, 2004 (UTC)

Diacritics

149.101.1.130, please stop removing perfectly valid diacritical marks from the page! --Shallot 11:25, 4 Sep 2003 (UTC)


diacritical marks appear as "?" in the text--wouldn't it be better to fix these eyesores??
They only appear like that if you have an old web browser without support for Unicode. Reasonably new Internet Explorer and Mozilla will display them right, try that.
These people's names are really Radić, Račić and such, they're only transcribed without the diacritics when it's impossible to store them properly. For example in the page titles (that's why I use those pipe links), but not in the page contents itself. The words "Radić" and "Radic" have two different pronunciations in Croatian ("rah'dich" and "rah'ditz"), they're not equivalent. --Shallot 17:02, 9 Sep 2003 (EDT)
This is an English page. Just because you can display foreign languages doesn't mean your audience can read it. Would it make sense to you if I said something like "Emperor 裕仁 of Japan ascended the throne in 1926..."? Why not write in English and put the original non-English words & names in parenthesis like we do in pages such as sushi? Mdchachi 16:44, 9 Sep 2003 (EDT)
In principle, I have no objections to using native Japanese terms, but do observe several important practical differences -- readers of Latin alphabet in general are able to discern the non-diacritical versions of letters from what they see (the carons, acutes and bars only modify the basic letter), and the pipe links always point to a version without the diacritics for those few that don't have Unicode fonts which is equivalent to putting everything in parenthesis (and I think better than it, because it avoids taking up a lot of screen estate along the way). --Shallot 17:02, 9 Sep 2003 (EDT)

Mir Harven's comments

well, I visited "page history" for Cro history page. My, my,...what an obsessive-compulsive Cro-junkie Igor something is. Geez- this fella essentially does nothing except wanking (pardon my French) on Cro wiki (or Cro-related) pages. Get a life, freak.

M H

Looks like Cro-obsession is on rampage among SS (Serbian sickos). Wacko linx del'ed.

M H

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