Talk:Gothic rock

Firstly, I think the redirect should have been to goth music, rather than gothic rock, since gothic rock is a subset of goth music. -- Birchtree

OK. When I merge, I tend to remove the smallest article, rather than making complicated decisions about which title is better. Do as ye will. Martin

Essentially though, such an entry ends up as nothing more than an opinion poll as to which bands are considered to be gothic rock. My vote is for certain parts of this page to be subsumed into the Goth entry (since the movement and the music are extremely difficult to seperate), and both goth music and gothic rock to be set as a redirect to Goth. -- Birchtree

Interestingly, I take the opposite approach: Large chunks of the Goth article should be moved to Gothic music or Gothic fashion, as appropriate.

The music and the fashion and the philosophy are easy to seperate. The fashion aspects of Goth are what you wear. The music aspects of Goth are what you listen to. The philosophical aspects of Goth are what you think. Clearly there are strong links between these aspects, but equally they can be profitably examined individually as well. Martin

Well, my point is that if you are to say anything remotely meaningful about the rise of goth, you have to talk about its development as a music scene. The philosophy aspect is something I wouldn't want to touch with a barge-pole because then you really do get into a completely subjective debate about 'what it's all about'. The main thrust of the goth article was to avoid that pitfall and still be informative. -- Birchtree