Talk:Idol worship
So how does one of them define the term idol? In the end, we are going to have to come to some sort of agreement, we can't hide behind reference forever, but if you have a reference you would like to quote, then please do so today sometime... Susan Mason
Well, I'm going to sit this one out until the storm dies down at least a bit. Just a couple questions:
- While God the Father and God the Son are forbidden to be depicted in icons, it is acceptable to depict God the Son because he came in such a way that people could see, hear and touch him. (Wesley's, I assume)
This may need re-wording; it appears to my heretical mind to contradict itself. Also, doesn't the business about Protestantism and God's omnipotence belong with the Judaism/Christianity/Islam part? Even Roman Catholic missionaries have performed acts of iconoclasm on idols that aren't on their approved list -- IHCOYC 17:39 Mar 4, 2003 (UTC)
- Doh! Yes, that's mine. It should read "While God the Father and God the Spirit are forbidden...".
It seems to me that deletion of non-neutral material is better than insertion of rebuttal, so I did -- [[User:Williamv1138]
Yeah, well it seems that There is much disagreement about what Idolatry is.. and somehow the basic mistake is defining an idol as physical, rather than metaphorical. It was perhaps a poor move to change this to Idol worship, because idolatry is not separate, nor is it too specific a term to deal with in a secular way in the opening, and then later in detail.
This whole nonsense began when Susan - Lir took it upon herself to argue that "idolatry was similar to fetishism" which is like saying pornography is similar to masturbation. It continued when our esteemed colleague BOB also known as RK sought to add,(in his typical fashion) some of what he knows about Jewish charachterizations of Christianity as idolatric. And Susan and I objected to this, and so on.. and finally of course, it looks like Uncle Edward, in an (untypical) blaze maneouver changed this to idol worship. He is perhaps correct- however, because the content of this article seems to deal with the mamby pamby details - for which "debate" can go on forever...
I will rewrite the idolatry article.... contribute to it if you will, but for those of you who fail to understand it, I suggest you stay here in the minutiae, and leave the concept - idolatry to those of us who have a grasp of it (at this time)... I love you all, despite your despiteness. -豎眩
- Idolatry is in fact very much connected to fetishism. As for an article on the the "concept" of idol and idolatry, I am all for that -- as long as the article provides a good account of changing scholarly debates over the term. Slrubenstein
- Im starting to think maybe I should change my name to Susan-Lir since that is what all of you call me. I did not say idolatry was similar to masturbation. The article previously stated that idolatry was similar to fetishism, something you apparently think you know about (but don't), I did not add that, but of course it seems to be a traditional part of the wiki community standards to attack me.Susan Mason