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Sepearate articles

Should a sepparate article be made for Animal Crossing DS? Or should we worry about that when it comes out in 2005? Joiz 14:37, Jul 5, 2004 (UTC)

Wait until it comes out. There isn't very much information about it yet. --NessSnorlax
We should wait, but the page should be separated into smaller pages anyway. The calendar events section is as long as hell and this is one of the longer pages for any video game on the 'pedia. The DS version will definetly rock, though! Please, add anything new you find about the game ASAP! I need to know everything about it!
OH! And we should try and get a picture and a link up for the DS version as well to give people a better idea of what the game is. - thealexfish 3/24/05 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.41.212.250 (talk • contribs) .

First paragraph

The game does not utilize the Gamecube's clock, contrary to popular belief, instead having its own clock independent of the Gamecube's. However, it is possible to adjust this clock in what is called "time travelling" by players of the game. Later in article: Animal Crossing uses the GameCube's internal clock to check the date.

Which is correct? AEton 23:30, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The second paragraph is correct. The game can't have it's own clock because you can't put a clock into a disc, atleast not that I know of. But although it uses the Gamecube's internal clock you can have the game set ahead or behind it, the game just remembers how far ahead or behind the Gamecube's clock it is.Annoynismos —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.66.94.140 (talk • contribs) .
No!The 1st is.It reads the clock and sets it as a default time,although the clock can be internaly changed. IE,its is 1:30,it saays it is 130 by dafault but you can still change it —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.169.44.28 (talk • contribs) .
uh... what? it IS NOT independent of the gamecube's clock. it bases the time off of it. so if the time in the game is 3:30 and the gamecube's is 5:30, changing it to 3:30 in the Gamecube will change the clock in AC to 1:30. it's all relative. it is NOT independent. the clock isn't on the disc, or the memory card, or anything like that. it remembers how far ahead or behind it is relative to the gamecube's clock.68.107.96.136 22:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions for Improvement

Well, I decided to get the ball rolling and start this. What can be added to make this a featured article? -- A Link to the Past 04:35, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

Blech.

That was me that reworked the Game section and added the museum section. The is the second time that I took so long writing something that I apparently got logged out. Annoying. Anyways, if you have any comments about it. --Pagrashtak 19:34, 27 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

good job--Aeryka 18:59, 13 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Argument

(Text removed as it was too long and unnecessary. If you want to see it, check here). -- ReyBrujo 23:13, 24 July 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Please stop spamming until you have a real website and the alexa ranking to prove it among other stuff to prove your notablity. Other than that, please stop wasting your time aruging your site is notable. --Kiba 21:27, 13 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
http://animalcrossing.wikicities.com Th AC wikiCity! It is here--Aeryka 19:42, 15 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I think if the website IS animal crossing centered it is legit. If it is articles, make an article section!--Aeryka 19:42, 15 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Person, dun waste your time. Go to neopets and their AC guilds to link links. LTTP, dun waste your time, either. Y'all both are being major arses over this. --Marudita 23:16, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
For one, this is over a month old. For another, there is nothing bad about trying to define what's notable for external links. - A Link to the Past (talk) 00:24, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The Trading Function

Shouldn't the item trading function used through Passwords be mentioned? It is probably the most popular function in the game. -Occono

Gameplay

I added information on villagers, time travel, and multiplayer play to the gameplay section. Now that I look at it, it seems terribly disorganized. I'm considering combining the "fish and insects" and "museum" sections into a single "collecting" section, and folding the "happy room academy" into "house improvments". I'm not so sure we need such a detailed explanation of the HRA, either. Are we trying to make a FAQ or provide an overview of the game itself? Any comments are welcome. BCampbell 02:00, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, BCampbell. There were too many details for it to be a proper encyclopedia article. -- Commander Nemet 23:20, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

A Link to the Past: I apologize, I made sweeping changes and got an edit conflict. I couldn't tell exactly what you changed, so if I erased your change, I apologize. BCampbell 22:09, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please maintain the integrity of all comments made with legitimate consideration for content and valuation policies. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.75.198.6 (talk • contribs) .

I agree

On merger with Animal Crossing/Forest Cameos. --Ac1983fan 22:13, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Nook Knowledge

Does anyone know all of the shop versions, there are some missing in the article. If you know any of them, could you add them. Much thanks, HC x

That content really belongs at Wikibooks, not in this article. --Pagrashtak 18:58, 21 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Only Nintendo?

Is this game only available on Nintendo? Why isn't it available on other platforms like PS2 or whatever?--Sonjaaa 09:00, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This game is available only on the GameCube because it has been developed and published by Nintendo itself. Have you ever seen Super Mario Bros. or The Legend of Zelda on the PlayStation? Mushroom 16:40, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's also on the DS now, FYI. ^_^ --Moped 03:00, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No, that's Animal Crossing: Wild World, a separate game. --Pagrashtak 03:13, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Update....

I have changed around the DUMMY subject to "Common Bugs". I have also added pictures. The "Lost my Face!" area requires some info, and i'm looking for help on that! Thanx! --Moped 02:59, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Someone who knows should add whether or not the No Face glitch is permanent or not. I think that's what most people will be wondering when they read it. --Shroom Mage 04:46, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I have fixed the problem! *wink* --Moped 20:07, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

?????

" Golden Waterring Can: You have to clean the city for 2 weeks (planting trees, flowers, rip out $crap$ grass...) then you will recive the Golden Watering Can"??????? 24.63.167.114 19:16, 12 March 2006 (UTC)p.h24.63.167.114 19:16, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

...not really Highway Rainbow Sneakers 18:28, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia

I removed that, as it's clearly advertising. Just so you know whose IP that is. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by LupusCanis (talk • contribs) .

SPAM Cleanup.

I removed all external, unoffical links except for the one, most popular fansite (which I labled as a fansite) and the GameFAQs link. Also, moved the official links to the top (and deleted a redundant official link).

If anyone wishes to add another unofficial fansite, please discuss it here in Talk first. Wiki is not for SPAM. Thank you. 71.244.170.75 13:44, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, GameFAQs links are fine. Otherwise there would not be a Template:GameFAQs to put them. -- ReyBrujo 18:09, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
err... I said I removed all the links 'except' for one fansite and the GameFAQs link... 71.244.170.75 19:09, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oops! Sorry for the misunderstanding. -- ReyBrujo 19:25, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fansites

Who got rid of all the fansites? Different fansites have different purposes and different content, it would be nice to see them all. Instead you leave only one that's rarely updated compared to some others. This isn't fair to other sites, which in my opinion are even better than the sites you have left. Why would a fan of the game only want to see one site? Please put them all back. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.183.128.42 (talk • contribs) .

I propose the External Links section is broken down into different sections (I have seen this before where they had a fansite section, an official section, etc.). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.183.128.42 (talk • contribs) .
(whoops... didnt see that discussion above mine, well it's hard to tell what that was for, so I guess mine is ok too.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.183.128.42 (talk • contribs) .
You mean Animal Crossing Community? No, that fansite is updated all the time, and has over 60,000 members (I think). It also includes some sections, with a Animal Crossing and Animal Crossing: Wild World catalog, a Feng Shui guide, an event calender, an e-reader cards section and a section with all the characters and information on special characters, and this is all for the unregistered users. Registered users can use the Pattern Maker, the friend code trading section and the Trading Post. Most of the other websites posted had some of what ACC had but not all, and ACC includes everything.
Please also check Wikipedia: External Links to see what should and shouldn't be included on the External links section. - ChadyWady|Talk
ACC first of all has a so-so forum and the site is rarely updated with news (by that I mean there a many more sites that are updated more). Also, why should this one site get the place? Another thing, I clicked the link about External Links and they were all fine. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.182.72.102 (talk • contribs) .
Look how these External Links are set up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Crossing:_Wild_World
That's how it should be here too. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.182.72.102 (talk • contribs) .

ACC first of all has a so-so forum wand the site is rarely updated with news.

ACC been updated so much, it doesn't really need any more updates. Plus, I don't understand why ACC is a so-so forum. I've been there for 3 years now, and it's much more moderated than some. There are also different sections to talk about Animal Crossing and Animal Crossing: Wild World. It also provides news on Animal Crossing. (see http://www.animalcrossingcommunity.com/Topic/470764/1/Animal_Crossing_News<nowiki>) :::<blockquote>''Also, why should this site get the place?''</blockquote> :::As I stated before, ACC provides everything all the other sites had, so there really wasn't a need for them. :::<blockquote>''Another thing, I clicked the link about External Links and they were all fine.''</blockquote> :::10. Blogs, social networking sites (such as MySpace) and forums should generally not be linked to. Although there are exceptions, such as when the article is about, or closely related to, the website itself, or if the website is of particularly high standard. :::Animal Crossing Community and Animal Crossing Ahead had very good layouts, and are very helpful. :::Most of the other websites had a very bad layout, no information on Animal Crossing, or the links were dead. :::List of older websites: :::* <nowiki>http://home.earthlink.net/~chadpike/aceplus/index.html (Dobutsu no Mori e+ Guide): Not based on Animal Crossing.
  • http://ac-town.com/ (AC-town): Dead link
  • http://animalcrossing.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page (Animal Crossing Wiki): Probably used to promote the website.
  • http://www.animal-crossing.150m.com/ (Animal Crossing Walkthrough): Bad layout; many ads; just repeats information that ACC already has.
  • http://www.acadvocates.com/ (Animal Crossing Advocates): No information on Animal Crossing.
ChadyWady, 04:50, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well these aren't the only sites. I wasn't nesacarily talking about those. There are a few specific AC sites I have in mind. http://animalxing.com/ - This is an FAQ site and an AC community (forum and IRC). And another one: http://the-bell-tree-forums.com/ - This one is just a forum. It's nice because the whole site is based on the community and not an FAQ like a lot of them. There are some other I don't remeber. I know ACO is an older site, it wasn't up here before though. I also saw project hyrule being discussed above. For some reason it got denied. I honestly don't like Project Hyrule at all, but it might deserve a place here because it introduced UCs and the code generator. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.182.106.75 (talk • contribs) .
I will also look at these sites you have given reasons for not being in the catagory:
  • Dobutsu no Mori e+ Guide: This IS about Animal Crossing... however I'm not sure if there is enough info here... so maybe that one can go.
  • ac-town: This is not a dead link... I don't know how you thought that. (although the layout is iffy so maybe this does deserve to go)
  • ac wiki: dead link... wait are your comments above or below the link of the site? whatever...
  • ac walkthrough: wow... this site does have too many advertisements... this one should probably go because it's confusing and looks bad
  • ac advocates: What do you mean this has nothing to do with AC? Hmm... this site looks pretty nice and my opinion, I say keep this one actually. (maybe... i dunno)
One more thing... what's the point of gamefaq's article if you're looking at the info in it. If I wanted to know who created the game, I could look at my AC booklet which every game comes with. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.182.106.75 (talk • contribs) .
The site is perfectly acceptable. The guy pretending to be a mod should be shot. Relevant links belong on Wiki. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.75.198.6 (talk • contribs) .
Please be civil. -- ReyBrujo 22:45, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Section Cleanup

I cleaned up the "Characters" section. Just so you know. Shadoman 20:07, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Game guide

The article looks like a GameFAQ article, giving detailied information that is not to be included in Wikipedia. Remember that Wikipedia is not a game guide (8th point). I have removed a lot, but still the article is too focused on explaining the reader how to get things and when things happens than why the game was developed, which was the original idea of the game, and the commercial outcome of the game. -- ReyBrujo 11:31, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Relevant Information

I made some edits to this Article recently, mostly adding information. It has been pointed out to me that the information I added may not have been relevant to what a Wikipedia article concerning a video game should contain. This edit (by me) in particular I think may not be important information: [[1]]. Are there any pages on WP which outline what kind of information should be included in a videogame article? If so, could someone please point it/them out? Thanks. :) Dave 15:57, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. Here, item 8 (as of today), it is specified that Wikipedia should not hold tutorials ("...if the player hits the rock between 10 and 15 times and their feng-shui rating is very high, a very rare piece of furniture may pop out as well."), how-to's (...players go to the train station and tell the porter that they'd like to take a trip. The train will arrive and they climb aboard. This saves "travel data" on the other memory card, which may then be used in conjunction with a friend's memory card to visit their town.), advice (she will gladly trade one of her carpets if given 3,000 bells and a new rug in exchange), etc. To give you an idea, a good article about Animal Crossing should just name the main characters (the real main ones, usually the ones that you cannot skip in the game), what is the game about (not how to play it), the background of the game, the developer thoughts when creating the game and the answer from the market (success, failure, sales information, marketing, etc). -- ReyBrujo 18:56, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pointless Secret

I removed the following information, I felt it was hard to understand the point the author was trying to make, and the point that I got was that If you don't put items in the dump, they won't disappear. I felt this was too obvious to be included in a "Secrets" section. Also, the author used terrible spelling and grammar. This was the information, unedited from it was:

"Keep your idems that you throw away Throw away a idem anywhere but the dump so if you want the idem back justgo where you throw it away." XXDucky21Xx 01:59, 23 July 2006 (UTC

Trivia 2

From the article: "The music players may obtain from Totakeke called Rockin' K.K. is the song Johnny B. Goode, by Chuck Berry. It is also used in some battles throughout the Mother series, most notably the battles against hippies."

What? The melody to "Rockin' K.K." doesn't even vaguely resemble Johnny B. Goode, the two songs don't even share the same chord progressions. 67.60.1.116


Series Article

I think Animal Crossng definetly needs a series article. Most video games have one, and AC will have four games soon (including Animal Forest). It's just confusing here... there's some information for the whole series of AC and some for the GCN game. I think Wikipedia really needs this.

Source on Pelly and Phyllis being sisters?

I've never heard of them being sisters before. Is this true, and if it is, what's the source? --Spring Rubber 06:38, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Theys aresies sisters o.o the official strategy guidey I thinkies says sos, 'tis officials ^^ don't worrys SnuggleBunny 09:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I have the GameCube guide, and it says nothing of that sort. --Spring Rubber 19:10, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It is vaguely hinted upon in ACWW, and to a much lesser extent in AC1. Also, the offical site for AC1 mentions it, I believe. XXDucky21Xx 18:53, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
They are indeed sisters. The AC:WW guide says so. Also, there are brief mentionings in-game. Frankyboy5 05:03, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bugs and fish

The lists of where bugs and fish are and their price is similar in theme to a FAQ or walkthrough. It should be removed, but I'm gonna wait a couple of days to do it, in case someone wants to transwiki it. Just a heads up. --Niroht 02:19, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I personally would like the see this info remain, because it illustrates how detailed the game world is, and doesn't break "A general rule of thumb to follow if unsure: if the content only has value to people actually playing the game, it's unsuitable." as the value is in the illustration of the games detail. To be fair, the game is designed to be similar to life, and thus most aspects of the game would make sense to someone who's never played it, but for this to really be like a walkthrough it would need to give advice on catching bugs rather than merely listing the bugs that are featured in the game. Admittedly giving price and seasons would help players looking for the bugs, but it also shows non-players how complex the ingame ecosystem and economy are - merely stating that bugs vary at different times of year could be taken to mean something as crude as one set of bugs appearing in winter months, one in summer, with the seasons being split in half into winter/summer. --Joenixon 14:30, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The guidelines are clear: no advice, suggestions, tutorials, guides, manuals per 8th information policy. In-game information that says how to get something, how much it costs, what it is used for, when it is available or when it must be used, etc, does not fit Wikipedia. If you want to include that information, use prose. Instead of lists with all that information, use a paragraph like In Animal Crossing it is possible to catch several bugs, including ants, bagworms, banded dragonflies, bees, bell crickets, etc. -- ReyBrujo 17:11, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AMIB wanted me to post here.

AMIB, you're being a nuisance. Continue ignoring the AfD result and I'll ensure that you're blocked for disrupting the peace and civility of Wikipedia. - A Link to the Past (talk) 07:57, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If there's any encyclopedic information that was in that article, feel free to merge it here. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 08:18, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You feel to miss the "keep" result. There was no indication that a merge was what anyone wished for. - A Link to the Past (talk) 18:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What is going on and is there any way I can help? --Niroht 18:57, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AMIB is trying to turn Characters in the Animal Crossing series into a redirect, despite the result of its AfD being keep. - A Link to the Past (talk) 19:02, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, look. AMID, I'm afraid you can't just turn something into a redirect because you think it's unecyclopedic. The topic was put up to discussion, and the consensus was to keep it. If you were going to go and delete it or whatever you want to call it anyway, you might have well just not participated in the AFD. Keep in mind that

  1. Problem article covers the characters of both Animal Crossing games, and may continue to cover characters in future games as well. Redirecting to this one page is detrimental to the encyclopedia effort.
  2. Just because an article is currently unencyclopedic does not mean that it will never be.
  3. List pages tend to be mores suitable for the information covered in Problem article than article-type pages. It is more encyclopedic to have a list of characters with short descriptions than it is to put a list into a more formal article. Yes, you may think that everything that does not fit into the main article is not noticable, but everyone is not you. It is preferrable to have a small amount of information, placed properly, than to have no information at all.

--Niroht 19:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge from Pitfall (Animal Crossing)

I don't know any delicate way to say this. Having an article solely about pitfalls in Animal Crossing is just from Bizarro World. - Stellmach 22:51, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Makes plenty of sense to me. I say merge. --Niroht 16:21, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge? Delete! I don't think Animal Crossing needs to be clogged up any more than it already is with details about an extremely minor and unimportant item. Can't this just be prodded? Hammer Raccoon 20:24, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

... talking stout?

Quote: It is rumoured that the talking stout located next to each house...

What on earth is a talking stout? Stout is a kind of beer... -- Picapica 21:50, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Either someone got confused or it's vnadlism. I'm almost absolutely certain that should me Gyroid. --Niroht 23:41, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Division

This article should be divided in to:

--Zeldamaster3 15:42, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

--I agree --69.182.119.75 20:56, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Why should it? Can you give reasons? I'm afraid that last I checked IP votes don't count, especially when they're just agreements. --Niroht 01:12, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
--Eh... I'll say why. Well Animal Crossing will soon have four games, and all other series with this many games has a series article. Please read my discussion topic I posted here a while ago- a few topics up.--69.182.119.75 02:23, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Understandable. I see the idea, just keep in mind that this article is about the Gamecube version of the game, so I'm not sure splitting is the best way to go about it. Possibly writing a new article for each would work....--Niroht 02:46, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

--Well that's my point basically. This article is suppose to be for the GCN game, but everyone is trying to fit series information in it as well. I think it's a mess... A series article is needed. And I'm not sure why Animal Forest never had it's own article... --69.182.119.75 19:27, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, sorry to revive the discussion, but I really think that Animal Forest and Animal Crossing should be merged as they are essentially the same game and two articles will just be repeating the same information. A better solution would be to have a section in one article describing the differences between the two versions. If you look at the Animal Forest article, it is just a confusing stub with inaccurate information. Timkovski 17:45, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Citing...

This article does not need to cite more sources. The places where it says "citation needed" doesn't make any sense. All other games don't cite information about when the game was released. It's common knowledge, why would it be cited? Also, most of this information in the article isn't comming from sources other than the games and their guides. --Gyroid 22:38, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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