Talk:420 (cannabis culture)

Archive 03:28, 19 July 2006 (UTC) and before

I have archived this rather large talk page. HighInBC 19:36, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Refuted urban legends

Why do we have a section for information which is known to be wrong? I don't see the relevence. I would like to remove this whole section, anything in it worth keeping should be moved to the section that asserts fact and provide a citation. This article has alot of original research and this is just one section I am going to fix up. Please let me know your opinions so I can take them into account. HighInBC 19:38, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I dunno, it gives an idea of the history and nature of the phrase. We have an article about The Flat Earth Society, and about how people thought that the Earth was the centre of the universe. I dont think that section does any harm, and is a bit interesting, though it does need cleaning up. Jdcooper 20:06, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If we didn't then people who thought the obviously wrong stuff was correct would add it as correct. We need a list of commonly held misconceptions. Mathiastck 13:14, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

People do add obviously wrong stuff and it is removed regularly. The threshold is verifiablity not truth. As for an list of commonly held misconceptions, that sounds like an interesting article. HighInBC 13:20, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article about The Flat Earth Society is a reference to a large and extended movement. If these 'legends' are notable enough fine, but I don't see notability or what it has to do with the subject at hand. This is the sort of thing you see on a talk page, ideas that came up but were rejected due to lack a validity. I can't understand why it should be in the article namespace.

As for providing history for the phrase, it really only lists misconceptions about it, an actual history is covered in Commonly accepted origin. HighInBC 20:58, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, I'm pretty much in support of all your edits. Maybe re-insert the one about the guy on the quiz show using 420 bids repeatedly, thats a funny one that shows the scale and cultural impact of the phrase (and if you've seen the clip its definitely not just a coincidence). Jdcooper 23:33, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I watched that video, and it is obvious to me that he was referencing to cannabis, but how can that be demonstrated. I can't justify a statement by saying "The look on his face made it clear.", however true it is. That is one of the reasons this is such a hard page to keep clean, 420 is almost always used as inuendo in such a way it cannot be proven. HighInBC 00:20, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Christ, looking over some of the stuff you removed it hit me just how bad a state this article was in. It had become a compendium of things that involve or include the number or time 420. Great work. Jdcooper 11:48, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have wanted to clean this up for a long time, but I was afraid it would eat me if I started. I think I have the beast on the ropes now, I still need more citations, and other stuff of course, but it has lost it's teeth. HighInBC 15:30, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]