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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Kizzle (talk | contribs) at 21:15, 12 November 2004 (→Template (Do not edit)). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.
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  • Archive1 - November 5 2004 - November 9 2004
  • Archive2 - November 9 2004 - November 12 2004

Enough. There is a general concensus that this article must stay, but that it must be heavily revised in order to remove POV and assure validity of its sources. The current talk page is getting entirely wrapped up in random discussions being added at a lightning pace. Thus, this is how its going to work. If you have a problem with any current passage, please copy and paste it verbatim using the template into a new section under "Discussions of passages", specify the proposed remedy, and cite the reasons why under discussion. If you have new information to add, please add it in the appropriate place. Check the voting section to see if there is something you would like to vote on. After that, feel free to add anything not specified under the first 4 categories. Apologies for archiving current discussion, please re-post any current issues in this format. --kizzle 21:06, Nov 12, 2004 (UTC)

Discussions of Current Passages

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Passage

" Bush so should have lost the election because there totally was voter fraud!"

Remedy: Remove / Change (Paste new like below if needed)

New Passage

" There are some who say there were data irregularities in the election results."

Discussion Blah. --kizzle 20:59, Nov 12, 2004 (UTC)

Change me

Passage

" Change me"

Remedy: Change me New Passage

" Change me"

Discussion Change me

Information to be Added/Reviewed

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Link: http://www.blah.com

Description: Cites conclusively there was no fraud.

Discussion

We need to add this as soon as possible! --kizzle 20:59, Nov 12, 2004 (UTC)

Active Polls

Naming

1. "2004 U.S. Election voting controversies"
  1. If we keep it as it is, debate controversies and any other controversies would technically fall under the category --kizzle 22:44, Nov 10, 2004 (UTC)
  2. Kevin Baas | talk 22:53, 2004 Nov 10 (UTC)
  3. Assuming "Election" is changed to "election". JamesMLane 22:16, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
2. "2004 U.S. Election voting controversies and irregularities"
3. "2004 U.S. Election controversies and irregularities"
  1. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (hopefully!)]] 22:54, Nov 10, 2004 (UTC)
  2. Schnee 22:52, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  3. Zen Master 23:03, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC) (responding to Kizzle above: We will have scope problems regardless of the title, we should define the scope no matter what, the title is somewhat secondary)

I'll have to come back later to look over all the new talk comments and cast any votes I choose to, but I just have to point out one thing now, which has been mentioned on this page by me and others: Wikipedia style, for article titles and for internal headers, uses sentence case. Specifically, for article titles: "Do not capitalize second and subsequent words unless the title is a proper noun (such as a name) or is otherwise almost always capitalized, e.g. use John Wayne but Computer game." (from Wikipedia:Naming conventions#Lowercase second and subsequent words) Would anyone who's already voted object or change their votes if the alternatives were brought into conformity by lowercasing "Election" in each? JamesMLane 00:35, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

fine by me :) --kizzle 04:20, Nov 11, 2004 (UTC)

Sub-pages

1. The page should be maintained as one for the time-being
  1. kizzle 22:44, Nov 10, 2004 (UTC)
  2. Schnee 22:52, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  3. Zen Master 23:03, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  4. If the article gets too long, daughter articles are a better solution than sub-pages. JamesMLane 22:16, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
2. The page should have separate pages that go in-depth about certain states (such as 2004_U.S._Election_voting_controversies,_Florida & 2004_U.S._Election_voting_controversies,_Ohio)
  1. Kevin Baas | talk 22:53, 2004 Nov 10 (UTC)
  2. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (hopefully!)]] 22:54, Nov 10, 2004 (UTC)

Discussion of Article Layout/Organization

Other

overzealous archivage?

You archived a new info sub section I just posted...? Some of the other discussions were recently active... Zen Master 21:13, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)

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