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However, Cohen sings like a rusty giant bedspring.-- GABaker.

Listen to his first albums. -Tubby


It strikes me that the 'Memorable Quotes' are completely subjective, and could include all of Leonard Cohen's writings if you get everyone's opinions. What, then, is the point? Tolo 18:01, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)

Long list should be moved to Wikiquote; I would think no more than three here. I would also add that the list here seems very eccentric, virtually none of his most famous lines. - Jmabel | Talk 08:06, Oct 30, 2004 (UTC)

"The Partisan"

In the list of covers of Cohen songs:

I don't know these two recordings, but the song itself is not a Cohen song: his version is a cover. Are these two recordings in some specific sense covers of Cohen's performanc of the song? If not, they should be deleted from the list. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:12, Nov 1, 2004 (UTC)

Shrek

Yes, I'm quite sure that is Cale in Shrek. It's a slightly censored version of his recording; I can't now remember what they left out, but I remember that when I saw the movie I was thinking "what a wonderful recording to use here" and then found myself going, "that's not exactly how it went..." -- Jmabel | Talk 20:50, Nov 1, 2004 (UTC)

No, it's definetly Rufus Wainwright, according to the amazon page for the soundtrack album (and my own ears). Pyrop 21:29, Nov 1, 2004 (UTC)

Really? Damn, he is definitely covering Cale's arrangement then. It's note for note. -- Jmabel | Talk 21:59, Nov 1, 2004 (UTC)

You're both right: the version in the movie is Cale, but the version on the soundtrack is Wainwright. If you search google for 'shrek soundtrack John Cale' you'll find several sites saying that. Tolo 10:45, Nov 2, 2004 (UTC)

Right. It's Cale in the movie, and Wainwright's on the soundtrack CD. This is not entirely unrelated to the fact that Wainwright is signed with Dreamworks SKG, and had an album coming out at the same time as the Shrek soundtrack. PS : Liked the reversion comment "lack of consensus"; that would be one way to phrase it, certainly :) -- GWO

mother of his children

A recent enonymous edit changed "Cohen fathered two children with dancer Suzanne Verdal McCallister"... to "Cohen fathered two children with artist Suzanne Elrod". I have no idea of the facts, and neither cites a reference, so I am not reverting, but it would be good if someone could sort this out. -- Jmabel | Talk 19:23, Nov 2, 2004 (UTC)

The new version is correct. Suzanne Vaillancourt (nee Verdal aka McCallister) (a Quebecoise) was the Suzanne behind the song "Suzanne" [1]. Suzanne Elrod is the mother of Cohen's eldest children. [2]