Wikipedia talk:Esperanza

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Please direct all discussions on the governance of Esperanza to Wikipedia talk:Esperanza/Governance. Thank you!

FireFox leaving

FireFox (talk · contribs) has deleted his user page and talk page. He is one of the best users Esperanza has. Please do anything to get him back. Send him messages on his talk page, email him, do anything; just get him back. --May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91 ($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 16:40, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please join in at the vigil for FireFox at User:FireFox. --May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91 ($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 14:27, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alert! Abandoned Fox!

We have a stressed and out of his mind Wikipedian FireFox who has just left without notice! I need a volunteer to take care of his fox for now. Thank you for your cooperation.--Ed^{talk c E} 22:35, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I need volunteers!!!--Ed^{talk c E} 22:40, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What do you require help with? Geo. 19:48, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

FireFox is back now

May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91 ($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 15:29, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, uh...I'm new.

The little welcome template thingy says to say hi (and thank you, by the way, for welcoming me so kindly and promptly, I was very flattered)....anyway, hi. I'm Keakealani, you can call me Kea, or Keakea, or Keaks, if you want...I'm from Hawaii. More about me on my user page...otherwise, it's nice to be here. I always look for groups like this wherever I go, some place that's dedicated simply to being nice to other people, since that's my real skill (although I can get nasty when I'm mad, but I'll keep that offline, usually). Anyway, I'm rambling terribly, but...hello! —Keakealani •talk•contribs• 05:40, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's very nice to meet you, Kea! We're glad to have you here at Esperanza, and it will be great to spread some niceness throughout Wikipedia with you. :) -- Natalya 05:56, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you ^_^ I recognise your name from around, as well. I'll probably be a ninja editor working on cleanup and help-y type stuff, but I don't know what path life will take me =P Anyway, thank you for the kind welcome! —Keakealani •talk•contribs• 06:25, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just seconding the welcome. :) It's great to have you with us. Happy editing! -- Bane s 07:09, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thirding ;) It's always great to see a new Esperanzian! Th ε Halo ^Θ 10:59, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, as everyone else has been saying, welcome to Esperanza. Always nice to meet people, isn't it? --Ed^{talk c E} 15:37, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think we've already met on #wikipedia-esperanza, but welcome anyways! Have a nice time here! --May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91 ($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 16:25, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Confused

Hi there, I have my name on the join up list for people who don't meet the requirements yet. Just wondering, do you need to have roughly 150 main edits or just 150 edits in total? Please help, I want to join soon! ps. I have 95 main edits and roughly 325 total edits. Thanks, Jam01 05:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pretty sure it's 150 total edits. If it is, then welcome to Esperanza :) --james^(talk) 06:01, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, depends. If you have 150 edits to your userpage or something like that, then chances are it really isn't that great. But I took a quick look at you contribs and they look fine. I see you've welcomed a lot of people, and that's a good sign for an Esperaznan. So I'd say you don't have anything to worry about :) Ungovernable Force^{The Wiki Kitchen!} 06:17, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

JoanneB answered this question really well in a thread a couple sections above; Wikipedia talk:Esperanza#non-member with a question. -- Natalya 16:40, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Update on charter amendments

The two straw polls at the Governance page have concluded, and both amendements have been accepted. The changes have been made to the Charter, the diffs of which you can see here. Many thanks to everyone who expressed their feelings on this. -- Natalya 19:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New

I just wanna say hi!!!! to everyone and I wanna thank User:The Ungovernable Force for the lovely welcome message :) --Sergio Álvarez|nodoubt9203| ^{|talk to me|}^{|what i've done|}^|e| 01:36, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there Sergio (or do you prefer Nodoubt?), and a very warm welcome to Esperanza. Hope you enjoy it here :) Th ε Halo ^Θ 01:41, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problemo. Ungovernable Force^{The Wiki Kitchen!} 04:45, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!!! I prefer my name or my pseudonym: Sergiusz Szczebrzeszyński --Sergio Álvarez|nodoubt9203| ^{|talk to me|}^{|what i've done|}^|e| 01:51, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's nice to meet you, we're glad you enjoyed your welcome. :) -- Natalya 04:41, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I'm also new to esperanza. DavidJJJ 17:29, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to you too! :) --Joanne B 17:55, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to everyone who is new to Wikipedia and/or Esperanza!!! Please feel free to make yourself at home:D Thank you.--Chili14 00:39, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Esperanza Front Page

Please take the time to vote on Esperanza's new front page design here. Scroll down to the bottom to vote. The proposed design may be found here.--Ed^{talk c E} 01:04, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bonjourno

I was told to say hi, so here I am! Hello!
I can't wait to get started, but work comes first. I'll be back soon. Doing good for the world.

Look out, world!

I'll try to get some green in my sig soon, I'm feeling left out... — Editor at Large ( talk) 17:51, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there, it's lovely to meet you! I'm sure the world is as happy to have you as we are. :) -- Natalya 18:46, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I'm very glad I found out about this group. And I updated my signature... I now start with a green E. — Editor at Large ( talk) 19:59, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello from me as well! I hope you like it here. Great sig, btw :) Th ε Halo ^Θ 20:33, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there! :) --Sergiusz Szczebrzeszyński ^{|talk to me|}^{|what i've done|}^|e| 20:36, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings again, and many thanks! Funny story: I finally got around to welcoming some new people, and when checking my watchlist about an hour later I found that an anonymous IP had edited my message on one user's page like so. Thankfully it was reverted very quickly by Charlesknight! And I am working on my own message to send people, because I don't like being so impersonal just adding someone else's template and signing it. I hope I have lots of time tomorrow... — Editor at Large ( talk) 23:46, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism can be pretty funny sometimes. Jfing ers88 12:31, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! And nice to meet you!--Ed^{talk c E} 02:58, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Strive

I am starting a Strive campagin. The Strive banner is a minor award given to anyone that strives; for any reason. They may strive to:

Make right decisons
Contribute
Fight vandalisim
Be positive
Help
Create
Protect
Maintain
For Loyalty
For just any other reason were a Wikipedian Strives.

You don't just have to use it as an award. I put it on my userpage as a reminder to myself and others to Strive in everything they do.

Feel free to help.

Thanks, Dfrg.msc File:DFRG. MSC.jpg 06:45, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have given it to: user: Daniel.Bryant and User: Hossen27. Dfrg.msc File:DFRG. MSC.jpg 07:29, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here in Esperanza, we're all about relaxation, excitement, happiness, and all that other good stuff we want to promote. The banner looks a little bit..."bland" I should say. Maybe we could try to make a cool Experanzian design for the banner. I would be happy to help you if you need anything. The Strive things a good idea, except it's not...attractive.--Ed^{talk c E} 01:25, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it looks like a good idea, just needs a bit of jazzing up by the fun people here at Esperanza - • The Giant Puffin • 12:24, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What do you think of this:

—Mets501 (talk) 12:44, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Needs more rainbow. And flowers. (kidding) Carson 01:10, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That looks great! Congradulations: Mets501. Anyone else? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dfrg.msc (talk • contribs)
- Looks really colourful and fun. Great job - • The Giant Puffin • 17:28, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Members list

I was just adding my name to members who wanted to join Esperanza and I was looking at the list of members, and I think the active/inactive/former/ lists need to updated. Any suggestions as to how to go about updating this? — The Future 23:00, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Being rather un-technilogically minded, the only way I can think of is to go through it manually, since there isn't really one source that says if someone has left Wikipedia or been indef blocked or something. -- Natalya 15:48, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Should we use a bot to do check the members? --Ter e nce Ong _{(T | C)} 15:50, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No bot like that exists that I know of except the Rick Block admin update script he runs to check status' of admins, but that would take a lot more time to figure out than to manually check it, I think.. — The Future 21:47, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request your thoughts requested regarding 3RR

User:71.34.113.170 raised a question regarding 3RR on Wikipedia:Village pump (policy).

Carcharoth responded "Actual discussion, including moving stuff to the talk page to discuss it, trumps 3RR and Being Bold everytime, IMO."

My take on this is that what Carcharoth wrote sounds good but isn't true.

Here's what I wrote:

I disagree with Carcharoth's assertion that 3RR does not apply if there is discussion. If you get to the third contentious edit on anything, you should stop and take a breather. Discussion doesn't mean "I reverted your edit and here's why". Discussion means "I think your edit should be reverted and here's why".

Yes, I know this is really hard to do when there's an egregiously bad piece of text in article mainspace. You have to use your judgment. If the text says "John Seigenthaler was suspected of..." then you have to take it out and rely on the "gross violation of policy" defense. If, on the other hand, it's just a POV rant, then it's probably better to let it stand after your second attempt and let another editor step in. If this doesn't prevent an edit war, then issue an RFC and go through the dispute resolution process. Consider this (proposed) guideline: Other than slander, libel, copyright violations and incivility in the article itself, the biggest sin on Wikipedia is edit-warring. Avoid it at all costs. --Richard 19:36, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Some context for what I wrote... Some of you may remember that a few weeks ago, I wrote a message saying that I needed help because I was in the midst of a budding edit war with an anonymous editor who was putting in poorly written POV text. I had reached the 3RR limit and wanted to find a way to maintain Wikipedia quality without getting into an edit war and violating 3RR.

I came here and the response I got was two-fold: (1) Esperanza doesn't take sides in disuptes and (2) take a breather. Both of these comments, while frustrating at the time, turned out to be pretty good advice.

I found a sort of compromise with the anon that made him happier than it made me and the next morning another editor reverted the whole thing. The anon never came back so peace reigns in that corner of the Wikipedia universe.

Anyway, I have come to conclude that except for a few really egregious violations, the cardinal sin on Wikipedia is edit-warring.

Your thoughts and feedback are solicited.

--Richard 20:13, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Un nuevo miembro

Hola! Mi nombre es Chris, o Umdunno. This looked like the sort of group I would like to join as a Wikipedian, considering how much I believe in WikiLove as a concept (and how much I hate inter-Wikipedian fighting). So...good to be here! -Umdunno 23:52, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't speak much Spanish, but I actually understood what you said! I won't try and reply in Spanish, but we're glad to have you here! -- Natalya 01:26, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hola! Me llamo Ed. Soy de Estados Unidos. Y tu?
It is such a pleasant to meet you. Fortunately, I'm taking Spanish classes in my high school!--Ed^{talk c E} 01:29, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think English classes would be a bad thing either, Ed ;-) (a pleasant to meet you) Y Chris, ¿contribuyes al Wikipedia español? No contribuyo porqué es más pequeño que esta Wikipedia y puedo contribuir solamente con un nivel intermedio de español. ¡Hasta luego! :-) —Mets501 (talk) 01:53, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are you insulting my English??? Must I tell you that I live in the US? And good for you, you speak intermediate Spanish. And me, I'm just a beginner =(--Ed^{talk c E} 01:56, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm just teasing you :-) You're younger than me (I think - considering you're a freshman and I'm a junior) anyway. Everyone makes mistakes :-) —Mets501 (talk) 02:12, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was being sarcastic....Yes, I am a freshman. ¡Hasta mañana!--Ed^{talk c E} 03:08, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

¡Hola! Tengo una calificación en español, así mi español es intermedio. Me encanta hablar en español - es una lengua muy bonita. ¿Lo pienses? ¡Buenas mañanas y gracias! 87.113.21.174 08:56, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Estoy de acuerdo. Me gusta hablar en español también. Aquí, en Nueva York, hay muchos signos en español, y hay mucha gente que habla español, así que puedo utilizar mi español mucho. :) —Mets501 (talk) 14:14, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Soy el IP :P. Sí - me gustaría practicar mi español más, pero vivo en Inglaterra, y no hay muchas personas que habla español :(. —Celestianpower ^háblame 16:05, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No contribuyo al Wikipedia Espanol. Actualmente, no soy del mundo hispanohablante. Soy de los Estados Unidos, y soy italiano. Pero, mis primas viven en Espana. Either way, I appreciate everyone making the best effort of their Spanish. A good refresher for my Spanish III Accelerated class! -Umdunno 16:59, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

¡Muy bien! Un esperanziano hispanohablante, y orgulloso a mostrarlo. Bienvenidos. Y es ‘la Wikipedia española’, porque es ‘la enciclopedia’. »c tails!« =hello?= 17:13, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm just a Spanish student in America too but I like Spanish a lot! —Mets501 (talk) 02:06, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Would Esperanza be useful in helping me find Wikipedians to collaborate with on articles?

A couple of weeks ago, after a conflict with an anonymous user, I declared my Wikilife to be in a state of crisis. Natalya left an encouraging note on my talk page. One of my problems was that I was facing difficulty finding Wikipedians to collaborate on articles. She suggested I join Esperanza as they could help me find Wikipedians to collaborate with.

My goal on Wikipedia is to contribute information to articles on my interests, and to make Wikifriends who share my interests. Therefore, I envisioned a system of collaboration. For example, let's say I wanted to make RuneScape a good article. I find three or four other editors who play RuneScape and wish to collaborate with me. We then work on the article: adding content and images, identifying and fixing problems, and ensuring the article meets Good Article criteria. Eventually we will send the article for peer review and nominate it for Good Article. While we discuss on the talk page about how to improve the article, we are likely to get to know each other and become Wikifriends.

Unfortunately, I have not been successful in finding Wikipedians to collaborate with. This, coupled with several other issues, including anonymous vandals and a dispute over the Homerun redirect, has caused me stress. Natalya has touted Esperanza as a way to find Wikipedians to collaborate with. Therefore, I wish to ask whether Esperanza would really be helpful in helping me find Wikipedians to collaborate with. Currently, Esperanza seems like a community of Wikipedians who send well-wishes to those who are stressed.

My interests include computers/websites and Singapore TV shows/movies. I have a to-do list on my userpage which you should consider checking out. If you are interested in collaborating with me on any of the articles listed there, please drop a note on my talk page.

--J.L.W.S. The Special One 12:21, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Have you checked out the various WikiProjects? They're a good way of collaborating with others, though some projects are more active than others. Good luck. --Fang Aili ^talk 17:38, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I joined the WikiProject Computer and video games to cover the Neopets, RuneScape, AdventureQuest and Chip's Challenge articles. What I need is a WikiProject for Singapore TV shows/movies. I discussed on the Wikipedia:SGpedians' notice board about plans to create a WikiProject Singapore, but the proposal fell through. Would Esperanza be useful here? --J.L.W.S. The Special One 04:49, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe there's people at WikiProject Television (or Film) who focus on Singapore. But if you want to start a wikiproject, I recommend just doing it. (I did that with WikiProject Figure Skating - there's no acceptance process; you just do it.) There seems to be a significant community of Singaporeans on en.wp, and I'd bet that if you started a wikiproject you'd get quite a few members, even if support seemed lackluster at Wikipedia:SGpedians' notice board. In fact I'm quite surpised one doesn't exist already. --Fang Aili ^talk 13:44, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm.. well, Wikipedia:SGpedians' notice board looks to be the equivalent of WikiProject Singapore (and Wikipedia:WikiProject Singapore even redirects there). Is there some reason you can't collaborate with those folks? --Fang Aili ^talk 13:47, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I echo Fang Aili's suggestions about just starting the Wikiproject. People are often reluctant to start something on their own, or help to organize it, but once something has been established, they could be a lot more likely to join it and help out. -- Natalya 00:37, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Facebook

I think Wikipedia:Facebook is a great initative; it adds alot to the spirit of the community to actually see who it is you are talking to and working with. I think it would be great if more people contributed to it, there is hardly any! Have a look and see for yourself. Dfrg.m s c ^{1 . 2 . 3} 08:40, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you very much. I do not want to put my real face on Wikipedia because of what will happen to me when certain people find out, but I am searching for a creative way to illustrate myself to the Wikipedia community. I wish everybody knew about it!--Chili14 00:43, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there are more "creative" ways to put yourself there, for users (such as myself) who value their anoninmity. Dfrg.m s c ^{1 . 2 . 3} 06:09, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Direct

I am back. Give me something to do. General Eisenhower • (at war or at peace) 21:17, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikibreak

I know I'm kinda new to Esperanza and stuff but school's getting pretty stressful and I'd like to say thanks to all here who've been so kind, but I can't devote my time to Wikipedia like I have this summer, but I think I'll sneak in some wikitime ^_^. I just wanna thank everyone here at Esperanza! --Sergiusz Szczebrzeszyński ^{|talk to me|}^{|what i've done|}^|e| 00:04, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No need to thank any of us. We've really enjoyed having you around, and talking with you. I'm sorry to hear that school's so stressfull, but glad that you might be able to sneak on now and then ;) I hope things get less stressful soon, and you can come back on. Best of luck until then. Th ε Halo ^Θ 10:40, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We'll be glad to see you whenever you get the time. :) Good luck with school! -- Natalya 00:38, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deleted Image:Friendship_is_a.jpg which seems to criticise EA as a dead end friendship

I have deleted from the main Esperanza page the image Image:Friendship_is_a.jpg (available from Wikimedia Commons) which in my interpretation seemed to criticise Esperanza as a dead end friendship. If anyone disagrees with this, please discuss the appropriateness of the image. Thank you. --Tachikom a 02:06, 6 September 2006

After thinking about it, I suppose that User:Gmaxwell may have intended to suggest that friendship in of itself is the end or destination. I hope he will understand that the image that he had inserted is open to interpretation and may not say to all users what he meant. I also hope he will understand if I suggest that the image not be reinserted on the page, precisely due to this risk of misinterpretation. Please don't feel offended, it's nothing personal. This message has been copied onto the user's talk page as well. Sorry for the trouble. --Tachikom a 02:21, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted to add that I'm sorry if I misjudged this user. To quote from one of my favorite TV shows, "occasionally, I can be callous and strange." Again, sorry. --Tachikom a 02:40, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh thank you for your kind response. Actually, I was aware of the double meaning when I put it up. I wanted to see what others would think about it. I don't object to it coming down, although it is an interesting picture. Thank you for your consideration. --Gmaxwell 02:43, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll reply here, since that's what you have done. Now I feel really bad about jumping to conclusions about your intentions. I'm truly sorry. --Tachikom a 02:56, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yo, What's Up?

Hi. I was told to introduce myself at the talk page, so here I am. Some of you already know me from the Coffee Lounge though. Eilicea 15:00, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! I'm one of the people who don't know you from the Coffee Lounge, so it's great to meet you! I know you've already got a welcome on your talk page, but, hey, I might as well say it here too: A very big, warm welcome to Esperanza. I really hope you like it here :) Th ε Halo ^Θ 15:04, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Do you know how I can get a template which says I'm a member of Esperanza? Eilicea 15:06, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly do ;) Go here, go down the page until you find the banner section, choose the one you like best, and then copy and paste it to your page. There's also some userboxes there, if you're interested :) Th ε Halo ^Θ 15:11, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nice to see you here, Eilicea! -- Natalya 00:50, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Next Advisory Cmm. Meeting

When will the next AdvCom meeting be, just curious? Wiki eZach| talk 00:26, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In time to run the September elections (terms end on the 30th); as always, advance notice will be given to everyone if you have something that would like to be brought up. -- Natalya 00:33, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I be new!

Hey there! I've become fairly addicted to Wikipedia recently, so I thought I'd join Esperanza and see what it's like. Thanks to Sasuke-kun27 for the welcome, by the way!

So, I might as well introduce myself a bit. I'm a 19-year-old Computer Science student from Ireland. I've been obsessed with computers ever since I was a kid, and I can't survive a single day without banging my head to some heavy metal. I also like pizza. Mmmhmm; lovely stuff.

Well, that's me. Hello! ~Inkiиgton 01:13, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Inkington, nice to meet you! :-). I love computers as well. And pizza :-) —Mets501 (talk) 02:04, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just had to share this with someone...

I know this isn't exactly related to the mission of Esperanza but I just had to share this with someone.

So... I was using the Lupin filter of recent changes to do some RC Patrulling. Up comes this article Poutine which matches the keyword "poo" (used in providing the pronuncination of this French word). I figure "OK, that's a reasonable use of the syllable but, hey, what's this article about? Is it a hoax? I mean food that looks like poo and has a name that sounds like poo? Come on. This can't be for real." So, I read the article and was pretty suspicious until I saw the CBC link. Ya know, this might actually be legit. Anytime somebody makes fun of our American low-brow culture, I'm gonna reference this bit of Canajun culture.

P.S. If this does turn out to be a hoax, I'm gonna be SOOOO embarassed.

--Richard 06:58, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Haha. There is such a thing as poutine, it doesn't taste very good, and it is pronounced as "poo", I guess just because the French (Canadians) are silly :P ~ Booya ^Bazooka 07:35, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm new to Esperanza.

Hi. I'm suit-n-tie. I edit on wikipedia and I joined Esperanza tonight. You can know more about me on my page.--suit-n-tie

Hi Suit-n-tie, a very big warm welcome to esperanza!! It's really great to meet you, and I hope you enjoy it here :) Th ε Halo ^Θ 10:43, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's very nice to meet you - I hope you enjoy yourself here! -- Natalya 14:03, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]