User talk:Jtdirl
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Ah. Sorry. -- Oliver P. 03:52 Mar 11, 2003 (UTC)
A secret it took me a bit to figure out: to archive a talk page that is too large for you to edit, use the "Move this page" command. You can move, e.g., Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (names and titles) to "Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (names and titles)/archive57" (or whatever), without having to edit it and without thereby truncating it. If you want to comment on anything from the archive on the NEW talk page, you can just copy and paste it there. (Though I think the whole archiving thing is a bit odd, the whole history is there in the revisions even if you deleted the thing.)
Best of luck on the Emperor naming, if I had a strong opinion I'd voice it, but I don't, and I've found these sorts of disputes dispiriting. It does seem that the race goes to those bold enough to just do what they want instead of discussing it first. It is better to beg forgiveness than ask permission.... and most don't even bother about the forgiveness. -- Someone else 00:58 Mar 12, 2003 (UTC)
- Egad, if you pay-by-the-minute for access, you're a saint. (hey, actually, these days it might be enough for a beatification<G>). I've found it a little helpful to stay away from anything edited by certain infuriating people. As long as said people contribute, Wikipedia will have errors. But your time is probably better spent writing new stuff or fixing errors where people won't be hell-bent on re-inserting them. -- Someone else 01:25 Mar 12, 2003 (UTC)
Hello. I've archived Talk:U.S. presidential election, 2000 and put a summary of the most recent discussion at the top (if it's not NPOV enough, feel free to change it!), with a note saying that it should be continued at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions. (Actually, that's another page that needs archiving, but the page looks too complicated, and I don't know what people want kept there.) I'm sorry to hear of your annoyance over the issue, and with Susan Mason in general. But I think that giving our naming conventions an airing from time to time might be beneficial, to get them well and truly sorted out (or as near as possible) while we are still in the early stages of the Wikipedia. And as for Susan Mason misrepresenting your position, well, I think a lot of misrepresentation goes on around here... I think we'd probably all get along better if we put it down to misunderstanding and poor wording than maliciousness. Call me weird, but I just can't help liking Susan. :) -- Oliver P. 04:47 Mar 12, 2003 (UTC)
Who'd have thought everyone would agree on Hirohito, war criminal? <g> -- Someone else 06:23 Mar 12, 2003 (UTC)
Hi, Jtdrirl (what the hell's that mean?),
Yea, I have a Ph.D., too (UCSD, University of California, San Diego--same place Hirohito, Emperor of Japan, used to study oceanography). So what? No one cares. Why argue about stuff (Japanese Monarchs) you know nothing about?
Arthur 22:38 Mar 12, 2003 (UTC)
Oh. This is so hard for me! I hate being rude. I dislike any contentionsness. I apologise. I'm sorry! Please don't be angry! My issue is not about who's right or who's wrong. I'm sorry if I've suggested so. But I think China and Japan should be treated equally. Forgive me. I mean no offense. Arthur 04:20 Mar 13, 2003 (UTC)
I'm just afraid of what we may be getting ourselves into. -- Zoe
- I'd love to see his answers. :) - Zoe
Taku has turned into a vandal. It's time to take him to the mailing list. -- Zoe
Hi, just saw your note. I haven't looked at the actual pages too closely, so I didn't realise there was a major problem. I mean, I did have some sympathy for their point of view - I tend to defer to people on subjects relating to their home countries. You may recall how I used to object to a certain American lady attempting to rewrite British history on the basis of a few old books she had at home. On the other hand, it is the English-language Wikipedia and it needs to be geared up for English-speaking people. Either way, don't get all uptight about it. Remember, you'll probably be here long after he's gone. Revenge is a dish best served cold. Deb 22:27 Mar 13, 2003 (UTC)
Your comments on my user page seem right to me. I'll wait until some resolution is reached before touching Japanese Emperors again. I have already abandoned the topic anyway. It's much too heated for me. Good luck with your efforts. Arthur 04:10 Mar 14, 2003 (UTC) (But if you would like someone to do the tiring fix of redirects, let me know.)
Whats going on with the AKFD thing? Axel seems to have done some work on his own... I think its time we put an end to this, period. -豎眩sv