Talk:Himalayas
how are the largest mountains formed?
See new section in the article Lumos3 23:17, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Why 2 pictures
I think having 2 identical pictures, one labelled and one not is a little quirky. I removed the unlabelled one but User:MPF restored it saying restore pic as it is a very nice pic that people may want to download) I still think only one is needed any one else got an opinion. Lumos3 23:23, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I don't have any problem with it. The annotated pic is useful, to see what's what, and the untouched pic makes a beautiful computer wallpaper, and there's not many such good ones around which people can downloaded legally. I still say keep both. - MPF 23:35, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- How about keeping the annotated one as the main picture and the plain on asa thumb underneath Lumos3 08:39, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I am trying this: unannotated picture as thumbnail (as the annotations are not legible in a thumbnail anyway) with a link to the annotated one. Also, I'm adding a satellite image. dab 10:36, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Excellent solution from dab - and another stunning pic, too - MPF 17:43, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Request move Himalayas to Himalaya
moved from Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)
The Himalayas article should be moved to Himalaya, which is the correct spelling. I tried a cut and paste move but lost the page history as a result. I undid the changes but can now not use the Move function because my mistake created multiple history entries in Himalaya requiring admin rights to move. Could an admin please move Himalayas to Himalaya. Thanks. Janderk 23:08, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Correct according to whom? - SimonP 23:55, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)
- While both are often used and linguistically correct according to Merriam Webster [1] it is explained in the article that Himalaya is already a plural term. Searching Google for Himalaya [2] results in 706,000 hits, while Himalayas [3] shows 461,000 hits. So the world uses Himalaya more often too. Janderk 00:39, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- We couldn't agree more about naming it what people call it. Most of the world, as indicated by the Google links above, use Himalaya to indicate the mountain range. The reason for this being that Himalaya is already plural. It means abode of snow. Saying Himalayas is like saying the Rocky Mountainses in the United stateses. My impression was that Wikipedia should be as accurate as possible and use the most often used name, but if Wikipedia is meant to be United Stateses or Great Britains centric than we should just leave the misspelling there ;) It is not a big thing for me, I just was trying to help by pointing out that Himalayas comes over kind of weird for 90% of the world's population. The Oxford Dictionary not mentioning Himalaya is a good argument to leave it as it is. Janderk 20:22, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- You'll catch more flies with honey - some of us are tired of the constant accusations of being US/UK-centric. If you want assistance, please don't accuse us of such. That said, I agree with your analysis. --Golbez 20:58, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)
- You are totally right. I was exagerating and possibly trolling a bit (note the smilie), while still being serious about 1) Himalaya being gramatically more correct and 2) The world using Himalaya more often. Janderk 06:14, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Not really. Searching Google for Himalaya -Himalayas leaves out the pages using both words, not pages using Himalayas only. If you do so you should search for Himalayas -Himalaya (pages using Himalayas, but not Himalaya) too which results in 230,000 hits [6]. So there is still a ratio of 2 to 1 when using Himalaya vs Himalayas. The fact that there are so many pages using both version indicates that both names are pretty common though. I think this discussion should be copied to the Himalaya (oh, sorry Himalayas;) talk page so others can think about it. Janderk 06:14, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- I'm not entirely sure what you mean with your explanation of the Google searches. Searching for "Himalaya -Himalayas" should show pages what only have himalaya and not himalayas, which is precisely what is wanted--pages that exclusively use "himalaya". A page using both himalaya and himalayas, at the least, indicates that the term "himalayas" is also used and that "himalaya" is not considered to be exclusively correct on such pages. However, interestingly, I get very different results depending on whether I use the Google search function in Firefox or directly from the Google search page (which as far as I am concerned is simply more evidence as to the unreliability of Wikipedia:Google Test for definitively proving anything). In any case, I agree with your conclusion that the difference in hits between the two terms is not strong enough to conclude one is overwhelmingly more common that the other. older≠wiser 14:58, Oct 12, 2004 (UTC)
- Consulting my handy dandy dictionary (American Heritage Dictionary in case it matters), I find "Himalayas also Himalaya Mountains". —Mike 02:49, Oct 13, 2004 (UTC)
Why not move it to Himalaya Mountains? RickK 08:30, Oct 16, 2004 (UTC)