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Note: people misunderstand the difference between tribute pages and Wikipedia pages. The tribute pages are where people can put in personal comments. The Wikipedia pages are for biographical content.--The Cunctator

(among others) If we're going to allow stuff like this, we may as well go the whole hog and import electoral registers directly into the 'pedia. - Khendon 12:15 Feb 24, 2003 (UTC)

I Agree - the S11 victim stuff is tasteless and pointless
These entries have more information and detail than exist in electoral registers. --The Cunctator
They are neither tasteless nor pointless, but they are not encyclopedic. They should be transferred to http://sep11.wikipedia.org/ before being deleted here. The Anome 12:47 Feb 24, 2003 (UTC)
I think it might be considered tasteless in that we don't highlight the victims of other terrorist incidents, the bomb in Bali springs to mind, or perhaps a different kind of incident on a similar scale the victims of the Titanic disaster, unless noteworthy for other reasons. Mintguy
Who's "we"? There's nothing stopping you from writing up such entries on the victims of the Titanic disaster, or the bomb in Bali springs. This is a specious argument.--The Cunctator
There is a much more complete listing of people who might need to be moved here: Talk:September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack/Memorial wiki pages Martin
  • Bush League, Dubya Dubya Three, Bush Knew, October Surprise
    • dubious contributions of a banned ex-user The Anome 07:26 Feb 28, 2003 (UTC)
      • Bush League: Don't care who started it( besides, the 142 IP address is ambiguous), others have contributed, it is linked to, it is a used term. It should stay. October Surprise: Valid article about a book, should stay. Bush Knew - unneeded redirect, can be deleted. Dubya Dubya Three: more a slang article, content should be moved to one of the Bush criticism articles. I am strongly opposed to deleting articles because the authors are banned, that is not a valid argument. If our bans are ineffective, that is another matter, but valid content should stay. --Eloquence 09:17 Mar 1, 2003 (UTC)
It is poorly written paranoid rubbish that would hardly get into your average tabloid, let alone a serious encyclopædia. (PS, I hate Bush so I find myself squirming having to defend him, but this stuff is pure conspiracy-theory nutsville stuff)


  • Dinah Webster
    • zero content article; Text of article "This article was moved to m:Dinah Webster". Text of meta-article "A victim of the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack". Martin
  • EucliD
    • I did not post this one here. Should not be deleted. olivier 00:31 Mar 4, 2003 (UTC)
    • Sorry, that was me. Euclid is valuable; do we need the CamelCase EucliD, with no links to it? Catherine
      • Yes. See at the very top of this page. -- JeLuF 14:29 Mar 9, 2003 (UTC)
  • Thumbscrew
    • empty, after nonsense was removed. olivier 00:28 Mar 4, 2003 (UTC)
    • I fleshed it out a bit. Should be a respectable stub now. 192.150.186.102 02:25 Mar 11, 2003 (UTC)
  • List of people with six toes
    • Shortened discussion., which boils down to, "It's silly!" followed by, "It's interesting!" repeated a few times. (Is it still being discussed?) -- Oliver P. 17:57 Mar 16, 2003 (UTC)
  • Table of Derivatives and Indefinite Integrals orphan, title violates capitalization guidelines. Misleadinging redirects to Table of integrals, which, though it does have indefinite integrals, has no derivatives and has some definite integrals, too. Eric119 23:37 Mar 5, 2003 (UTC)
    • How does it 'violate capitalisation guidelines' given that correctly in a title it treats the words 'Derivatives' and 'Indefinite Integrals' as proper nouns? Proper nouns in wiki are given capitals in titles. JtdIrL
      • Neither 'derivative' nor 'indefinite integral' is a proper noun. Eric119 05:24 Mar 6, 2003 (UTC)
      • It depends on context of usage. In some contexts, in particular when used in titles, they are capitalised, particularly in some European textbooks when used as definitions.
  • User:JCWF This was my old userpage, that I thought had been deleted
  • User:Jcwf2 This is the one I have recently created. I do not wish to participate any longer. The reason is that wikipedia does not legally exist, which means that all liability for any possible breaches of copy rights lie with us all personally. Without any legal protection from a legally registered organization I deem that irresponsible.
If you are not breaking the law then why is this an issue? What does "legally registered" supposed to mean anyway? We will be a non-profit soon and until then we are owned by Jimbo Wales. --mav
I suppose the fear is that someone inadvertently might download something they understood' was available, then find it wasn't and find themselves personally in legal difficulties. JtdIrL 02:56 Mar 6, 2003 (UTC)
  • List of books without an article in the title
    • There are far too many such books to make a comprehensive list at all useful or even interesting. In order to have trivia value, a list of special cases in a category needs to be limited, such that the "average reader" wouldn't be able to think of more than a handfull without wracking his brain. Mkweise 21:13 Mar 7, 2003 (UTC)
Blame Ed Poor. A look (a few pages back) at his user contributions shows creation of some lovely lists, including a list of literary characters with nine fingers. -- ヤギ
  • List of words commonly mispronounced
    • Irredeemably POV. Salvageable contents should be transferred to List of words of disputed pronunciation. -- Oliver P. 09:11 Mar 8, 2003 (UTC)
    • There no reason to claim that this list is "irredeemably POV". OK, it's yet another list of fairly trival stuff, but it has interest and already contains useful information. If not forced to waste time constantly defending themselves against destructive edits, the peope who are interested in this stuff could do something good with this page. Tannin 09:21 Mar 8, 2003 (UTC)
    • OK, but how do you resolve differences in pronunciation between different countries? American English speakers may well pronounce minute(adjective) as my-noot, but no British English speaker would. The response "ah, but that's because they mispronounce it" seems to miss the point slightly. Merriam-Webster gives the pronunciation as either mI-'nüt or mI-'nyüt. The word 'mispronounced' cannot be NPOV unless compared against some standard. It can then only be used relative to this standard, e.g. Words that are commonly mispronounced with respect to their formal pronunciation as given in OED, or Merriam-Webster, etc etc etc. Which just turns it into a dictionary war. cferrero 13:08 Mar 8, 2003 (UTC)
    • Seems to me that if either Merriam-Webster or OED list a particular variant, then that variant must be regarded as one of the correct ones. (It might not be correct in both UK & International English, but if it's correct in either one then it's a valid variant usage.) If it's not listed in OED or Merriam-Webster or Macquarie, then it just about has to be incorrect. My feeling is that any word consistently pronounced in a way that none of the major dictionaries recommend has got to be an interesting one! -- Tannin
      • The very word "mispronunciation" means "pronunciation that is wrong". That is, in itself, a point of view. "Disputed" is simply a NPOV way of saying the same thing. List of words of disputed pronunciation was intended as a NPOVisation of the title of the page, not as a separate article. Any material at List of words commonly mispronounced is valid material for List of words of disputed pronunciation. There is no need for two pages. -- Oliver Pereira 04:06 Mar 10, 2003 (UTC)
      • It is, in that case Oliver, POV to claim that (e.g.) pronouncing "aircraft" as "fish" is not wrong - that is what your nonsensical argument claims. However, it seems that no-one is interested in working on the page (I've never had much interest in it), and since Zoe's hacks (dishonestly marked "minor") it is useless as it stands. Might as well delete it. Tannin
  • Subspace (fictional)
    • just a quotation from some Trek encyclopedia. no original material. -- Tarquin 11:45 Mar 11, 2003 (UTC)
    • Hang on, I'm doing something. Redirecting it to hyperspace and writing about general use in scifi. Bagpuss
  • Chump
    • not encyclopedic material: "chump" is a slang term, not a specific concept. -- Tarquin 15:43 Mar 11, 2003 (UTC)
  • Virginity pledge
    • Only history is a POV screed Tuf-Kat
    • It has been rewritten by MyRedDice and is an exemplary example of how to write an NPOV stub. STÓD/ÉÍRE 00:34 Mar 15, 2003 (UTC)
  • Albertanism
    • The material on this page is idiosyncratic, and not encyclopedic. The only references to the term "Albertanism" are on Jacher's own sites and newsgroup, to which Jacher is the major poster: the rest is only spam. Keeping this article only feeds Jacher's vanity by drawing traffic to his website, as shown by his delighted response on the talk page. Whatever Wikipedia is, it is not a vanity webhosting site or link farm. -- Anon.
    • See my response to this on Talk:Albertanism -- Tim Starling 08:46 Mar 13, 2003 (UTC)
      • I give up. Danny's right - let's get on with the real work. -- Tim Starling 12:19 Mar 13, 2003 (UTC)
    • Concur with Anon. This article is about as encyclopedic as 'Joe Random's Lint Collection'. Salsa Shark 08:56 Mar 13, 2003 (UTC)
    • Ditto. Tannin 09:05 Mar 13, 2003 (UTC)
    • I concur with Tim Starling. A trivial subject, but Wikipedia is not paper, so we can theoretically cover all sorts of trivial subjects, as long as we do so in a neutral way and don't make unverifiable claims about them. -- Oliver P. 10:36 Mar 13, 2003 (UTC)
  • American Metric Standard - according to Mintguy there ain't no such thing, just some solitary individual with too much time on his hands to put a ficticious item on wikipedia that he alone in the planet believes in. Though until you examine it, it actually looks 'serious'. And Metric Time may be similarly dodgy. (Mintguy's info is one the American Metric Standard talk page). Delete quickly this unfortunate soul wears himself out adding to these pages on the hour, every hour. (Every friggin' hour!) STÓD/ÉÍRE 03:55 Mar 15, 2003 (UTC)
    • possible copyright violation -- JeLuF 08:08 Mar 16, 2003 (UTC)
  • Rychle sipy
    • About a Czech serial, but written in Czech language; should be translated or deleted -- Cordyph 17:40 Mar 16, 2003 (UTC)

Image:Sisi.JPG - copyright violation -- Zoe

  • TV Guide
    • Advertisment for a website, commercial hijacking of a generic term -- Tim Starling 04:20 Mar 17, 2003 (UTC)
    • If there is a well known magazine called the "TV Guide", why shouldn't there be an entry for it? With NPOV and disambiguation where required, of course? There seems to be five genuine links to it in Wikipedia, so there must be some relevance. If you think that the use of a generic term for the purpose of a trademark (a magazine title in this case) would count as hijacking, you must pursue that as a political issue, to have the law on trademarks changed. -- Egil 05:09 Mar 17, 2003 (UTC)
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