Talk:Billy Talent

Billy Talent Category

In terms of the categories this article has been listed in, I would argue that Billy Talent is hardly a hardcore punk group. Inanechild 23:48, 27 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, Billy Talent is not a punk Rock group, they are more of a hard rock. Punk music barely hits the mainstream with the same impact as Billy Talent did.--[email protected] 00:21, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite, Watoosh (while they were Pezz) was an odd form of punk rock, and their first album as Billy Talent had distinctly more emo influences, making them sort of hardcore punk (since emo is based off hardcore punk). They aren't hard rock, that's apples and oranges. Anyway, overall, the only consistent thing you can say is that they're a punk band. --24.223.144.215 20:28, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, Billy Talent looks just like another Simple Plan or Blink 182. I believe "Punk Rock" is becoming more of a look than a genre of music. Correction officer06 20:54, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Guys, if you're gonna have a valid argument, you need to back yourselves up. Nobody here has anything besides complaints about mainstream punk. Hard rock isn't hardcore. "punk rock" is a genre, not a bunch of mainstream emo bands. Hopefully I'm not picking a fight here, but there's nothing here to suggest anything should be changed.--128.146.68.89 18:09, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, I really don't want to be brought into this argument. Music arguments always degenerate because they can't be resolved, it's all a matter of perspective. That said, I'm going to carefully state this. Punk rock has more diversity than mainstream emo bands display, and some 30-years of history. They cannot be defined by some emo band like Fallout Boy. It's unfair to make broad generalizations, especially considering you seem to be only familiar with popular emo bands you dislike.

This is all beyond the point. An argument on what punk rock "is" should be in the Talk:Punk_rock section. It doesn't matter here because none of this changes Billy Talent's genre. The Internet doesn't need another meaningless argument, I won't post here again.

On a side note, I thought you were referencing The Dickies, which is ironic beyond belief. Can't say I've ever heard of Dickies clothing. --128.146.68.89 00:32, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It does not matter what so ever if they are punk-emo-hardcore-whatever. That has nothing to do with any of it being that those lables are just for organizational reasons. What really matters is what the lyrics and sounds and voices make you feel. That's why they call music a strand of art. It is a piece that will give you stong vibes of emotion. Like Nothing to Lose- is about a kid being teased and bullied at school then commits suicide, Devil in a Midnight Mass- is about a child predator working as a preist. Bands are not at all about trying to 'be something'. It's about making an impact on people to find emotion in a topic. -Erica-Jean M. -15 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by EJ MACZ (talk • contribs) 21:24, 24 May 2006.

and that's relevant to the article how? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.222.254.9 (talk)

They are definitely a hradcore punk band and not a "modern rock" band. Their sound is very little like emo - any similarities are coincidences, because almost every musical genre will have at least something in common with another. Their grinding guitars, flat sound, and loud and screaming vocals are all staples of hardocre punk. No they don't scream like Death metal singers, but that's not necessary for hardcore punk to be hardcore punk Kame2000 00:01, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

red flag

please note that the song is not a single

Yeah, its a demo going around the internet. Nobodys is gonna have the real thing till June 27

Well it is getting air play on radio stationsJacknife737 19:44, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well they did play it but they took it off for a while because they weren't aloud to play it until the album comes out on June 27th of 2006... which is today... yay!!!

When it is officially released as a single EP and promoted by the record company, it is then considered a single. It does not matter if the radio stations get their hands on an free mp3 given out by a band. Until Warner presses Red Flag onto a CD, it is NOT a single. --Reaper X 03:14, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, they are shooting a video for Red Flag, but that still doesn't automatically make it a single. You never know, the whole plan of making it one could be scraped in an instant. I know it looks damn likely its going to be the next single, but please ladies and gents, be patient, and wait until it s released. --Reaper X _{→T →C} 20:23, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yep Its a single nowKChuck27 17:45, 29 August 2006 (UTC)70.65.115.113 17:43, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PEZ lawsuit

i reverted an edit that claimed that the candy company PEZ also threatened a lawsuit on the band back in the Pezz days. I'm skeptical about it, as there is a difference there, and the fact that it was poorly writtin. If 64.187.8.100 or anyone else can bring me a reliable source concerning this, I'll gladly put it in. Thanks. --Reaper X 22:33, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

- i thought it was another band that was named Pezz that would have sued if the change wasnt made. -(chubbstar)^{— talk | contrib | 16:09, 25 July 2006 (UTC)}[reply]

Scandalous Travelers

I've noticed a lack in any mention of the Scandalous Travelers DVD. Please incorporate it to this page. Thank You --KChuck27 22:27, 16 July 2006 (UTC)kChuck[reply]

Image:Bt3.jpg

Damnit. Okay people, can someone either put an image summary on Image:Bt3.jpg, or get a new pic of the band? We really need it, it's almost crucial to any band page, it just looks good. Thanks. --Reaper X _{→T →C} 17:29, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'm taking care of it. --Reaper X _{→T →C} 21:25, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I dont know if this is stupid but why cant you just throw {{promophoto}} in there and be done with it? -(chubbstar)^{— talk | contrib | 16:14, 25 July 2006 (UTC)}[reply]

I guess that works, I wasn't aware you could do that (I'm not very knowledgeable on licences and stuff). Thanks (chubbstar). --Reaper X _{→T →C} 16:23, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jkelly had replaced Image:bt3.jpg with Image:BT10.jpg. However, I have reverted it because the latter only shows Benjamin Kowalewicz, the lead singer. The former illustrates the whole band, making it more appropriate. The band should not circulate around the lead singer. However, Image:BT10.jpg is excellent for Benjamin Kowalewicz's page. -- Reaper X 17:09, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Reaper X on this issue Fyver528 16:57, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]