User talk:SaturnYoshi

Re: Spinies

I wrote: Message from User:SaturnYoshi regarding Spinies. Paper Mario: TTYD does not specifically state that Spinies are Koopas. Only that they belong to the Koopa Tribe. It could then be argued that EVERY enemy in Super Mario Bros. belongs to said tribe. Meanwhile, the official guide for the New Super Mario Bros. from Nintendo Power groups Spinies with Buzzy Beetles and Spike Tops, therefor classifying Spinies as beetles. Sorry for posting this directly on your page, I had no other way to contact you.

First, I want to point out that if you want to contact someone, you do it on the discussion page for their user page. That's what they're there for. Editing the user page itself can be seen as vandalism. Just for future reference. ;) And you can sign it with four tildes in a row - a tilde is that wavy thing ~

Now then, PMTTYD calls Spinies "spike-covered Koopas" in addition to "members of the Koopa tribe. They have never been described as beetles (I've checked the manuals and scripts of the Tattles for both Paper Marios), nor have Buzzys been called turtles. ...Unless it says that in the NSMB guide. I didn't buy it. Just how are they "grouped"? Is it divided into sections, or is Spiny just next to the beetles? Agent CH 01:46, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote: The player's guide for New Super Mario Bros. groups all the games enemies under different headlines. For example, "The Goomba Gang" consists of the Goomba, Paragoomba and the Mini Goomba. "Koopa Troopers" lists the red and green Koopa Troopas and their Paratroopa variants. Buzzy Beetle, Spike Top and Spiny are all listed under the heading "Beastly Beetles". -Saturn Yoshi ^{THE VOICES} 02:44, 17 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Hmm. Be that as it may, they were called Koopas in-game, and last I checked, information given within the fiction itself trumps other sources in terms of canonicity. Agent CH 16:19, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote: The actual wording used in Paper Mario: TTYD in the Tattle Log states that they are spike-backed "members" of the Koopa Tribe. I checked the game myself. -Saturn Yoshi ^{THE VOICES} 00:58, 18 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Ah, but when Goombella is actually Tattling a Spiny, she says it's a spike-covered Koopa. Agent CH 03:01, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote: Well, I'll leave it at that. It's just that the Spiny and the Buzzy Beetle have a lot of similar characteristics both physical and how they act. Such as crawling on ceilings. I won't stop researching the matter, though, and I hope that this will be clarified in the near future. So for now, I'll just go by what Goombella says. Also, the Buzzy Beetle page says that they are related to Koopas, so wouldn't that render this whole argument pointless? Now the question is, Are Buzzies related to Koopas?? -Saturn Yoshi ^{THE VOICES} 06:39, 18 June 2006 (UTC).[reply]

I'm not sure where that would come from, aside from the whole shell thing. While checking info for Spiny, I also checked for Buzzy Beetle info (manuals, Tattles, even Player's Guides just in case), and none of them said they are Koopas, or related to them. Agent CH 14:03, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Voice actors

I wrote: I noticed that you feel that listing the voice actor for Kirby is not pointless. If knowing Kirby's voice actor important, then why not the voice actors for Mario, Link, Pikachu and maybe even Wario and Snake? It's just a thought, though maybe that's why Comrade Pajitnov felt the need to delete it from Kirby's section. Anyway, I'd like to know what you think. Take care. -Saturn Yoshi ^{THE VOICES} 21:34, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think they should all have them, but Kirby is the only profile I wrote, and it takes a lot of watching to remove all of the awful writing. I wrote some pretty good writing, and came back a week later, and the quality was awful! I'm just not vigilant enough to sit on all the bios. Cheers, Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 20:52, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New subject:
I just noticed that you had put Jennifer Hale's name back in Samus Aran's article; I had put it there myself several weeks ago, but it's been removed several times. I now understand why; Wikipedia's rules doesn't allow itself to be used as a source unless the page in question has cited material, and her article doesn't have any citations at all. In addition, the lists on the Bastila Shan and IMDb links all appear to be the same lists, and I know from personal experience that IMDb is user submission just like Wikipedia and can't exactly be proven as verifiable in this case. The only truly verifiable links in her article, her personal webpage and Voice Chasers, don't list the Metroid games in her credits. As such, really the only way of proving she was Samus's voice is a separate site related to her directly, like an agent site, or an article about her in print. Which leads to my question; you said there was an article in Game Informer about her? Arrow 18:36, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My reply: The article I'm refering to in Game Informer is titled "Behind the Mic" (Issue 161, Sept 2006 pg. 18). It features Jennifer Hale and another voice actor (Cam Clarke). A box in the middle of the page lists "notable game roles" and the Metroid Prime series is listed saying that she did voice Samus Aran in those games. I'm also going to request a complete list of her works from her website if this isn't proof enough. Hopefully it'll have what I'm after. -Saturn Yoshi ^{THE VOICES} 00:13, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah; that helps. In the meantime, perhaps you can make mention of that on the Samus Aran talk page, with a link I found to that article online (despite the fact that only people with a current subscription to the magazine can see that link) and explain that the information does exist. That may quiet people for the time being and allow us to put her name in for good. Arrow 00:22, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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MK image feedback requested

I've submitted a logo for the Mortal Kombat WikiProject. As an active member of the project, I just wanted to drop you a line so I can get your feedback over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mortal Kombat#WikiProject Mortal Kombat Logo. Thanks! :) EVula 15:35, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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MK: Armageddon discussion page

Hi. I can understand why you've reverted the MK:A talk page (As I have been doing), but Armageddon Fan is not taking notice of editor's summaries. Instead of a summary, I had left him a note on the page, with the intention of removing the section after some time had passed, but you have removed it after one minute. Do you have any alternatives in passing the information on to this user? RobWill80 14:55, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Edit: Actually, you're right. It's probably easier to just keep removing his edits. Sorry for taking up your time. :) RobWill80 15:39, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote: Don't worry about taking up my time. I'm here to help in any way I can. If you ever run into any more problems again, feel free to ask. And if I do not know the answer, I'll do my best to find out. As far as Armageddon Fan, I suggest placing a warning on his talk page. If that doesn't work, and he is still using talk pages as forums, then we hay have to involve an Admin. -Saturn Yoshi ^{THE VOICES} 00:31, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help. EVula has already given him an advisory warning on his talk page, but I'll have to look up the procedure before I could issue one myself. We'll see how it goes. :) RobWill80 02:54, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:WARN is your friend. ;-) EVula 17:26, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, there they are. Thanks. :) RobWill80 17:48, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Follow up:
He seems to have given up. Maybe it's for the best. -Saturn Yoshi ^{THE VOICES} 06:47, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

I hate to bother you, but I just joined Esperanza too, and I'm wondering how I change my sig so the "e" (or "yoshi" :P) in my name so when I type something in I won't keep having to type it all out. I've seen you can on Help pages but I can never find in anywhere in the preferences.

You might know me as the guy who kept posting the charts and fourth-gen on Legendary Pokémon. DarknessLord 00:45, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My reply: [[User:DarknessLord|Darkness]][[User:DarknessLord/Esperanza|Lord]]

Copy this signature and put it in place of your signature under preferences. Click on "raw signature" and save. If you want to change the color of the word "Darkness" put a before it and a after it. The word color in quotes is where you would pick the color you want. Make sure you keep the quotation marks.

Example: If you wanted the word "Darkness" to be black, this would be your signature...
[[User:DarknessLord|Darkness]][[User:DarknessLord/Esperanza|Lord</font]]

And it would look like this: Darkness Lord

-Saturn Yoshi ^{THE VOICES} 21:25, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Darkness Lord T C 22:33, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One more thing

At an entirely different meaning than my last, the evolutions of Aipom, Murkrow, and Misdreavus have been confirmed at serebii.net DarknessLord 10:51, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And thank you for the update on Pokémon! -Saturn Yoshi ^{THE VOICES} 21:25, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your welcome. Darkness Lord T C 22:33, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]