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National flags

I noticed you created two images, Image:Wikipedia_flag_united_states_large.png and Image:Wikipedia_flag_united_states_large.png. Firstly Wikipedia should not be self-referential, so these filenames are inappropriate. Secondly, there is already a complete set of national flags using the naming system "Country flag large.png". This makes it easy for people to implement a set of falgs as they know what the image will be called. If you feel strongly that there should be very large, non-AA'd flags avaliable discuss so on the flag's talk page. Perhaps a compromise would be to link to your version from the current image pages. Or you could host your images on the Commons. ed g2stalk 21:13, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Wow, this came from left field... I never dreamed in my wildest imaginations that this would be a problem. Yes, I feel strongly that the large flags should be available. But I'm totally flexible about the filename — change it to anything you want. - Gilgamesh 00:08, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Jerusalem

Check out Jerusalem#In Mandaeanism - I was really surprised to find this out today. Seems not all "People of the Book" like the city... - Mustafaa 23:15, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Yes, I'm aware of them. ^_^ Thank you anyway. ^^ Samaritans don't think much of Jerusalem either. - Gilgamesh 00:04, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Oh, I'd heard of Mandaeans - but I had kind of assumed they would like Jerusalem! Might be nice to add a section on Samaritan views, if they have a lot to say about it. - Mustafaa 00:43, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Morning Star symbol

Are you aware that your morning star symbol is a Sumerian symbol for the inverted pentagram, otherwise known as a Pythagorean pentagram? --Viriditas 00:52, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

No, but it wouldn't surprise me, as many common geometric symbols have duplicates in other cultures. It may be a Pythagorean pentagram, but it is still also a Christian morning star. - Gilgamesh 00:54, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)
What is the history behind the use of the "Christian morning star" from your perspective? I just found it ironic that you were using a Sumerian name, that's all. --Viriditas 01:11, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Well, it was commonly used in various inverted pentagram shapes by Christians — even in the United States — until about a century ago, after it became associated with Satan worship because of some popular occult literature from out of France. Fewer Christians use it today, and many are scarcely aware that it was so recently a common Christian symbol. It is still, however, used prominently by the LDS Church, chiefly in Temple design (as it has been since the mid 19th century) and is the only Christian pentagram I know of that is still in continuous use. The design as I submitted comes from the Nauvoo Temple, and features the characteristic radial light/dark relief shading and the elongated bottom point. The symbol represents Jesus Christ as the morning star, as he replaced the previous morning star — the rebellious Lucifer — in the pre-mortal existence. I'm sure there is plenty of Christian pentagram information on the Internet; just look around. - Gilgamesh 01:26, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for the information. I obviously know very little about LDS, but I am willing to learn more. --Viriditas 08:34, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Hmm, I think I can think of some quick figures. 12 million worldwide... 5th largest religious denomination in the U.S... Comprises roughly 50% of Tonga's religion... Areas in the U.S. and northern Mexico with large LDS populations are called Jello Belt. Adheres to the Old Testament, New Testament, Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price, Doctrine and Covenants, and believes in a living modern succession of prophets and apostles. Ahh! I know some good statistical information. http://www.adherents.com/ And a brief collective statement of creed: Articles of Faith.

Thanks for your apology

Hopefully we can discuss this on the appropriate talk page. You are certainly not my adversary, nor do I see you as one.--Viriditas 05:15, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Greetings, codes and projects

Hallo Gilgamesh!

Mustafaa mentioned you are interested in Semitic languages. I've just done some work on Syriac language and Aramaic language (a little too much on the latter!).

I'm having some trouble seeing all the transliteration characters that people are using on Wikipedia: they just appear as boxes. Do you know of the easiest way to fix this?

I've had a look at the Hebrew languages project page you set up. Would it be possible to set up something with a bit more scope, like Semitic or Afro-Asiatic languages, for project? I'm unsure what the best way to transliterate here is.

Keep up the good work.

Gareth Hughes 00:37, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Judaism, Quran, and an RfA

Hiya Gilgamesh! I couldn't get you on IM, so i'll post here.

Mustafaa began an article in a Sandbox, and gave me permission to work on it after I asked him. When I start it, I'd like it if you worked on it with me. See User:Lameen/Judaism in the Quran

Last, but not least, User:CheeseDreams has opened up an RfA against myself and 9 other users. While it's virtually for sure that the RfA will me completely rejected (he has not met followed any of the Dispute Resolution steps, nor has he adhered to the other requirements of the RfA, and has a RfM, RfC, and Vandalism in Progress page currently against him), it'd be helpful if you would give input on this issue if/when it does go through. (Or even comment on it now ;0)--Josiah 01:03, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)

Jaffa City Page

Thank you for your words of wisdom in the Jaffa City page I agree that neither a zionist or any other point of view is the object but just the historical facts presented as dryly as possible the Isreali citizens of Jaffa are welcome to write about modern jaffa and indeed there are paragraphs on this describing the devlopmement of the city the sights etc... However before 1949 this was a arab city with only a few hundred jews and this is also very musch part of the history of the city just as it was a Christian city even before this.

Thanks for your comments its pople like you that make wikipedia and bind this community together