User talk:Indrian
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Hi,
Thanks for your contributions to the baseball articles. I'm just questioning how useful it is to add the career statistics/leadership rankings to the articles though. In my opinion, it doesn't seem necessary for an encyclopedia article, and every entry already has a link to baseball-reference.com anyway. What do you think? Mattingly23 12:34, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Mattingly23,
While I would agree in general that baseball statistics would cause unnecessary clutter in an encyclopedia, I feel that one of the main advantage of wikipedia.com is the lack of limits on space and the ability to expand the scope of the encyclopedia beyond similar projects. While the statistics are not necessary per se, they provide a useful shorthand that explicates most of a player's career without having to write it out in wordy paragraphs. Therefore, rather than tracking team movements in articles, for example, one can just refer to the statistic block if one is curious about where a player played when. As for the leadership rankings, they do a better job of showing who was dominant (or not) in a more elegant manner, than trying to compile a complete list of accomplishments (which is why in the articles I have edited on baseball I hit only the highlights in the text). For a general encyclopedia like Britannica or (shudder) Encarta, this information is superfluous since no matter how much you or I like baseball, it is not very important in the grand scheme of life, the universe, and everything. However, I believe the presence of statistics for players in a sport that seems to revolve around them so much is appropriate and useful. That being said, this is a community project, and if consensus were to dictate that stats must go, I would act accordingly. That was probably more answer than you wanted. I apologize for my wordiness; it is an outgrowth of my passion for the sport.
Indrian 15:18, Aug 12, 2004 (UTC)
p.s. While it is true there are links to baseball-reference.com on most pages, I personally feel that baseball statistics are important enough to the biography of a player that this information deserves to be on-site content and should not be dependant on whether another site exists or not (though I do conceed that baseball-reference.com is not likely to disappear anytime in the near future).
- Thanks for your reply. You bring up good points to include statistics in articles. I wish there was some sort of baseball committee that could bring some order to the articles, for example, agree that all articles should or should not have a statistics chart, or certain categories should or should not exist. I just don't see a lot of uniformity in baseball player bio's and it would be nice if contributors could agree on a standard. Do you think it would be possible/advantageous to try to form such a committee? Do other sections have things like that, or is it not how wikipedia is supposed to work? I'm new here so I'm not sure how such things work. - Mattingly23 16:47, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- I am also fairly new here, so I do not know much, but I believe there is a method through which it is possible to give general guidelines and suggestions on how certain pages should be maintained called WikiProject (just type that into search and you should find it). I am going to be out of touch for the next few days, but after that I would certainly be interested in looking into this matter further. I agree that it would be nice to at least provide a few general guidelines if it has not been done already. Indrian 17:46, Aug 12, 2004 (UTC)
- I looked at some of the wikiprojects and I think it would be a useful think to do. Having something like an 'infobox' (like Wikipedia:WikiProject_snooker) for standard biographical info would be a good way to keep standard things consistent. I'll talk to a few other users who seem to be pretty active in the baseball section if they would be interested in working on something like this too. - Mattingly23 22:36, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Not much progress actually. I've tried messaging some people who seem to contribute alot to baseball articles but nobodys even replied one way or the other...and that was like a week ago. I messaged User:MusiCitizen and User:Matty_j and I think some others later on. Is there anyone that you know who would be willing to work on this as well? I don't think 2 people is really enough to ge this done. - Mattingly23 23:02, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- I am sorry to hear that. I unfortunately do not know of anyone who could help. Indrian 23:05, Aug 20, 2004 (UTC)
Indrian, I had been thinking about working on a template for a while myself now and started a project to find a standard template that could be used for all players. It is wide-open and there is plenty to discuss. Feel free to play with it as you please. Yardcock 19:22, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info, I will check that out sometime in the next few days. Indrian 00:35, Aug 26, 2004 (UTC)
Pharoah
Thanks for your edits to Pharoah. You may not have noticed, but I recently copied the page to Pharoah/Temp to clean it up (largely making the mark-up consistent) before replacing the existing version. I'm not done with the clean up, but the top and the bottom sections are more-or-less there; I just need to finish the middle (which it inevitably the largest part!). I should be grateful if you would look over the new page: for example, I was not aware of the misspellings, so any factual corrections would be very welcome. -- ALoan (Talk) 09:31, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)
How did you run across User:Dpbsmith/Billion?
I guess I am curious about one thing, in regard to your accidental listing of User:Dpbsmith/Billion on VfD. What I don't understand is... how did you happen to find it in the first place? I haven't made any links to it that I'm aware of, and a normal Go turns up the normal Billion article, so I figured it was effectively private space, and that people probably wouldn't ever run across it unless they were specifically looking for it. How did you find it? Just curious. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 01:19, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Yes, once again I am sorry for my mistake. The reason I found it is because you have a complete article there including a category listing at the bottom of the page. This category link places your page on the page Category:Integers, which I happened to visit. It was your page's appearance on that page that made me believe that this was some kind of wierd botched edit rather than a user subpage. You may want to remove the category from your page until you actually publish it. Indrian 14:05, Aug 23, 2004 (UTC)
Why did you tag this for speedy deletion? Postdlf 23:50, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Hugh Laurie
D'oh!! Speedy deletion approved! :-) Adambisset 00:19, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
"I am probably opening up a big, ugly can of worms..."
You know, one of the things I have gradually learned is that when I find myself about to start a sentence with the words "I probably shouldn't say this, but..." I probably shouldn't say it.
Yes, I think you probably did open up at least a medium-sized, not-very-attractive can of lumbricids.
Did you check the article history and notice that this was an article that had already survived VfD, and by a very healthy margin?
I think it was unwise to relist this and gives ammunition to the rabid inclusionists who imply (falsely) that it common tactic for deletionists to get their way by unfairly listing articles on VfD over and over again. I also think that when relisting an article that has survived VfD, a specific reason should be given, saying what has changed and why the outcome might be expected to be different this time.
Not really a big deal though, because it should be OK to bring up dubious things in VfD. It's not a death sentence, it's not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, it's not preponderance of the evidence, it's... "take a look at this, what do you think." [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 14:49, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
The Quartermaines Family Tree
I have seen that you have done nothing to imporve or Contribute to the the Soaps so why have you posted a Deletion Notice over my work.
Moanalua not the only school orchestra to perform at carnegie
Look at the symphony orchestra entry on this page. I just thought that since you had identified that quality of Moanalua as what made it just barely notable, you might be interested in the fact that it is not unique in having played at carnegie. Posiduck 06:37, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
My User Page
Please keep all of your comments/responses on my talk page, and not my user page proper. I've moved your comments to my talk page. See my talk page for response to what you wrote. Posiduck 00:39, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)
5 Billion Articles
On Posiduck's page, you mention that it is infeasable for Wikipedia to have this number of articles. Most articles have no pictures, and are under 40 k. That means 1,000,000 of them could fit on a 40 GB hard drive, like this one, which costs about $60. Now, to bring that number up to 5 billion would multiply it by a factor of 5000, making the cost approximately $300,000, certainly an achievable goal, expecially when you consider that Wikipedia is not nearly there yet and storage space is growing ever cheaper. Wikipedia's main expenses involve maintiaining the server, and, while this does grow slightly with Wikipedia's size, is a far less than proportional growth. --L33tminion 16:38, Oct 30, 2004 (UTC)
Village Pump Proposal
Indrian, I would like your input on my proposal (or some variant of my proposal) on the village pump. Thank you. Posiduck 23:14, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Hi! When marking pages for speedy delete, make sure to check their history to see that they were not just blanked.
Otherwise good work with the markings :).
Thue | talk 20:34, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Could you have another look at Opposition to Castro? I'm not sure what it was like when you looked at it (I gather is started out very POV), but at this point it looks to me like the nucleus of a good article. -- Jmabel | Talk 20:18, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)
Adminship
I've been monitoring your activities and would like to congratulate you on your perserverence in patrolling RC for deletion candidates amongst other things. Would you accept a nomination for adminship, thereby granting you the ability to delete these pages yourself? I would very much like to do this if you would accept. :) -- Grunt 🇪🇺 01:19, 2004 Nov 9 (UTC)
- It is done. You should probably go sign off on the nomination at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Indrian. And don't let the edit counters get to you, please :) (hmm. I wonder why I was logged out there.) -- Grunt 🇪🇺 17:40, 2004 Nov 9 (UTC)
vfd
Hello, I've seen that you've contributed some great work to Wikipedia and have experience with vfd. There's currently a vfd on a particular song? Can you please help by voting? Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/La La. Cheers. .:. 16:50, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Speedy
Hi there. I don't think that Bimbo is a speedy...it seems encyclopedic enough to me. Maybe it should be send to VfD? Thanks. -[[User:Frazzydee|Frazzydee|✍]] 01:11, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)