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Hi BhaiSaab, nice to meet you. :-) SlimVirgin ^(talk) 22:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ibn Qayyim Al-Jawziyya

Islami reverted it again, i reverted him. He simply can not stand to see any facts that contradict his favored view.

Salams

Assalaamo Aleikum, Regarding your e-mail. I think its a good idea! Allah Hafiz.--Irishpunktom\^talk 15:54, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shiva's Trident/Hkelkar

I think there is enough evidence here for something to be done about Hkelkar, but I think you should present your case to WP:RFAr. It seems to be time for some actual enforcable sanctions. Dmcdevit·t 19:53, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop engaging in verbal tussles with Hkelkar. If you have disputes to solve, it would be better to prepare your case for ArbCom as recommended above. Taunting and bickering is considered disruptive and may get you blocked. Thanks --Srikeit ^{(Talk | Email)} 20:06, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Your Name

I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to say. Tewfik^Talk 22:24, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Huh? I am still quite confused. Tewfik^Talk 22:29, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure how you could have found out what religion (if any) I might adhere to, as (I think?) I try to not get to personal about those issues

. But yes, I do know what توفيق means, as it is my family name. In any event, keep in mind that Islam isn't exclusively Arabic and that neither is Arabic exclusively Muslim. I'm sure you are aware of how complicated the world can be, and the Middle East is far from an exception. All the best, Tewfik^Talk 22:43, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Censorship

That's how I interpret your actions. The only nonsense around is the ARbcom case.Bakaman _Bakatalk 00:19, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You have named a whole pile of people. Is this case only about sockpuppetry or the whole set of religious clashes? I haven't edited the articles in question apart from locking them, and do not believe I have been sockpuppeteering. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 01:21, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I believe this, like a load of other things, is a case of bad faith. What recent harm has Shiva's Trident done to you that you suddenly decide to file an ArbCom case? Have I been put in as an involved party because I am Hindu? Or do you accuse me of something? I'll comment once I know what my role in this case is... Nobleeagle ^[TALK] [C] 06:23, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is no bad faith involved.There is enough circumstantial evidence - the block has been applied by Dmcdevit not Bhaisaab.TerryJ-Ho 20:33, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Thank you. --Ķĩřβȳ♥ŤįɱéØ 01:12, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hkelkar doubletalk in RfAr

Hkelkar used a lot of bafflegab trying to prove that he couldn't possibly have conducted a conversation with himself but ...

It's not necessary to use a graphics interface when connecting via SSH. I've been using a Unix shell account for 14 years and that doesn't require a graphics interface. Furthermore, it doesn't require a connection through a cable company (as Hkelkar seems to assume when he mentions coax and asymmetric up-bandwidth and down-bandwidth). All you'd need to do is plug the phone line into a modem. Then you could use one computer to connect via a cable connection and another computer to connect via a residential phone line. Or, you could mooch off a neighbor's wireless connection if the neighbor is either clueless or wants to share. I'm sure that there are even MORE ways to pretend to be two people from one and the same household. Possibilities multiply if you're accessing from a school computer lab.

He must think we're idiots. Zora 01:41, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it is necessary to use a GUI in order to access and edit wikipedia articles. Just try to use a shell based browser and you will see the impossibility :).Hkelkar 03:18, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So you've tried both ways then? BhaiSaab ^talk 04:28, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Neither way works so moot point.Hkelkar 05:47, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I love Dbachman's, "Bose-Singh continuum"... relative to the idea of, "treat accounts which show "hivemind" characteristics as 'effective' socks". That is sooo spot on relative to User:Bakasuprman. (→Netscott) 19:05, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have no firm opinion on the fundamental issues of this investigation, however, I would like you to know that I have made this very edit using an ssh connection without a GUI to a machine with lynx (web browser). Let's see how it comes out. --129.10.116.200 19:15, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Really? WOW! You must be a real Unix whiz! I mean, I just tried to do it and failed miserably:

File:Lynx1.jpeg

A wikipedia page in lynx

Good god! Where is the master edit button? Where is the link to the history page? Yikes!!

File:Lynx2.jpeg

Trying to edit a wikipedia page in lynx

Oh, whoopee! Found the edit button at last. Now, how to save it? How do I revert vandalism? Where is the watchlist page? Do I have to use my keyboard keys to navigate across so many links? What if I have to use popups (I have, numerous times). That requires Javascript. Lynx does not support any javascript-wavascript!What if somebody edit-wars with a graphics browser? How can I keep up? OMG!What to do?????Hkelkar 20:07, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Who is 129.10.116.200? BhaiSaab ^talk 20:08, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You tell me. Looks like one of your friends.Hkelkar 20:10, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just to note, text-based editing on Wikipedia is a lot easier with w3m or links or any number of text-based browsers that support frames. A much easier and logical way of making it look like you're editing from more than one machine, though, is just to set up a proxy server. I'm not suggesting that Hkelkar actually did this; personally, the sockpuppeteering charges look unlikely to me. (Though I haven't seen the e-mail evidences aksi great seems to have produced. --Xiaopo (Talk) 21:32, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

True, but none of the txt browsers support javascript (unless there are CVS or newer versions I don't know about) so I can't use popups with them. However, I have repeatedly used navigation popups during my edits, particularly when reverting vandalism so I cannot do that with lynx or w3m or whatever. That alone is evidence enough to exonerate me.Hkelkar 02:15, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Zora is right... we are being taken for idiots... Popups messages are just plain text entered into the edit summary, anyone can craft such a message and appear to be using Popups regardless of whether or not they are. Puppetry is an extremely likely explanation here. (→Netscott) 02:19, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well who said you've always been editing on the Chaos server? On IRC, recently, you've been using a residential IP address. It's very possible to manipulate this many ways. BhaiSaab ^talk 02:36, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes Netscott puppetry is likely isnt it? Keep in mind your comments on ANI were beehive-esque as well, especially since you both earned one-week blocks by Blnguyen. Bakaman _Bakatalk 02:27, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

C'mon Baka we know you're just socking again. Give it up already. (→Netscott) 03:27, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hopefully the Arbitration commitee will take the case and subsequently take User:Dbachman's commentary to heart and do some much needed housecleaning around here. (→Netscott) 02:34, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead, checkuser me, Hkelkar, and Subhash_bose with Mackensen and Thatcher. Go. Give what up? There's nothing for me to give up, and Netscott, unless you have proof of socking stop trolling. I think you'll find that dab is in the total minority when it comes to me. Anyway, none of the actions on Bilbobaggins8 (talk · contribs) were related to the account I use now at that point in time.Bakaman _Bakatalk 04:19, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IIRC, ELinks has JavaScript support, and the others have it in experimental builds. But you don't even need a text-based browser; all you need is to set up a SOCKS proxy using OpenSSH, and you can use Firefox or Internet Explorer or what have you. You don't have to run a remote X client or a text-based browser. --Xiaopo (Talk) 05:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Like I said, there are easier ways to go about this than all this SSH nonsense, which is BhaiSaab's absurd thesis. He contends that I have been using twist.ph.utexas.edu remotely using SSh and I have demonstrated how impractical that is. As for the SOCKS proxy server theory, just go ahead and run an nmap port scan on twist.ph.utexas.edu and show me the ports where a SOCKS proxy server is running. You won't find any :). I don't need to take anyone for fools, evidently... Hkelkar 06:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Plus, if I were to set up an stunnelled proxy server on twist.ph.utexas.edu, I'd need root access, wouldn't I? You know of any admins who indiscriminately give root access to their users?Plus, if they ran one by default, they'd say so on their info pages where they have listed all running servces (only SSH is forwarded out of the lan).Hkelkar 06:40, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If they had such a server, the information would probably be on a private university page for students only. I know my university has one for students who want to access journal databases and other archives through our library IP address and it's quite easy to setup. BhaiSaab ^talk 06:59, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not accusing Hkelkar of anything. (Note to BhaiSaab—I happen to think it's unlikely that he and Subhash bose are socks.) But no, you don't need root on twist. All you need is root on your home machine—and that only if you want to forward a privileged port. Try a man ssh and check out the -D flag. If you did a

ssh -D 8080 twist.ph.utexas.edu

on your home machine, that would effectively set up a SOCKS server that listens on localhost:8080. Then you can set your browser to use localhost:8080 as a SOCKS proxy. No root necessary, and twist just needs TCP port 22 open, which I'm sure it is. Here's a description of how to set this up on Mac OS X; it's effectively the same process on any POSIX-compliant OS, including Linux. I encourage you to try it out; it works. --Xiaopo (Talk) 07:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Note to BhaiSaab—I happen to think it's unlikely that he and Subhash bose are socks." That would quickly change after a two minute conversation with aksi great. Regardless of what you think of the case, I'm still appreciative of this info. BhaiSaab ^talk 07:23, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't email me at UT

Don't email me on my UT email address. The sysdamin notified me from his logfiles that I have been getting emails from various users and asked if the spool file can be unlinked. I do not want to do this so please stop or I will report you for haarrassment.Hkelkar 18:28, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't be ridiculous - I have only emailed you once, and I told you that time. Check your archives. BhaiSaab ^talk 19:44, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you have been telling your off-wiki buddies to spam me, then I will report my evidence to admin and add it to my RfA statement. I am compiling a list of emails that have been spamming me from the apache server logs to which I have read permission.Hkelkar 19:50, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Great. I'd like to see you link any of this to me. BhaiSaab ^talk 19:51, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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