Talk:Last Exile

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Ship/submarine name

Is the ship named Silvanus or Sylvanus? Sylvanus is the name of a Greek god and the ship did have some Greek lettering on it.

On the US DVD release, the name is written in English as "Silvana", and the English dub pronounces it as Silvana. There are scenes in the show itself which have the name "Silverna". The Greek lettering is actually English written in the Greek alphabet - epsilon-alpha-sigma-tau for east, for example. --OmegaPaladin 10:31, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The insignia patch from the Last Exile convention in Tokyo says that the ship's name is "Silvana". I believe the picture set from the con was on DVD 6 or 7. --Keno 03:43, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So it is "Silvana" with a single "n"? I've modified the article to replace all the "Silvanna"s, but I'm not sure it is correct. -- Gwern (contribs) 00:11, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think your right, as long as its uniform Cpuwhiz11 01:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

English or Japanese?

This may seem obvious to some, but shall we use the defined English names, or the phonetic Japanese? eg. Disith/Dysis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nukleon (talk • contribs)

I can't seen to find the MoS article for it, but I believe that an available English-version name goes first and then one can also mention the original Japanese name. -- Ned Scott 01:50, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's how I remember it as well, since it is commercially released in America, we go with the commercial names (such as for the characters, vessels, series name, etc.) -- Gwern (contribs) 01:27, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alex and Maestro

I don't think Alex actually strangles Delphine, I'm pretty sure that sound you hear in the anime is him breaking her neck, which makes sense, he's a pretty strong guy and her neck is pretty slender... --GreatMizuti 12:53, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're right, and he does snap her neck... while strangling her. I think the way that Alex went about doing it falls within the scope of strangulation. --Miss Ethereal 18:51, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of Artbooks

Spheres by Range Murata

- LASTEXILE 1st character filegraphy

Spheres 2 by Range Murata

- LASTEXILE 2st character filegraphy

Spheres + by Range Murata

- LASTEXILE character filegraphy plus

Spheres Pre ++ by Range Murata

- LASTEXILE character filegraphy pre plus plus

Aerial Log (or Aerial Logs? i think it's Log)

Soundtracks

I'll write it later if you think that this is to put here. --Anon1

I'm not signed up but this is true. --Anon2

If you can write a decent sourced section, go ahead. -- Gwern (contribs) 01:27, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mullin

I don't believe any time in the series was it said that Mullin married Dunya so I clarified that and some other things. Also I think we should have a biography on Dunya herself, which I might do if no objects.

Old Dunya biography

Note I found a biography of Dunya, but it had been removed. Granted she is not exactly a main character but she belongs somewhere on the page. Thoughts? Cpuwhiz11 15:49, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think there should be a biography on Dunya. If there's one for Vincent, there should be one for Dunya. Maybe there should be a minor characters section. Should there be a Plot section as well? I was surprised when there was no explanation of what Exile is, history of the nations, etc. --Adolon 02:10, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thirded. -- Gwern (contribs) 01:27, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal

Here is what I propose, we remove the "Major characters" title and simply call it "Characters", then we put in all the minor characters (Dunya, Godwin, Gale, Marius, and others ) with pictures (I will try to get some), after that we do a plot section (I will start it tomorrow as I am a big fan of Last Exile) and then top it off with a background section. It sounds lofty, but I think we can do it. Also what are your thoughts on my title renaming. Cpuwhiz11 03:09, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with everything wholeheartedly. I tried my best to find pictures of the characters but the sizes of the pictures are different and conflict with the other pictures. --Adolon 04:01, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I started on the plot, but the work is slow so I will do a few a day. --Cpuwhiz11 16:23, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I changed "Major characters" title to "Characters" and put in the old Dunya bio, which I actually did a while ago, but under an IP address. --Cpuwhiz11 16:51, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I am almost done with the plot bit. I did see the message on the main page and even though I prefer in-universe I will attempt to do it out-of-universe. I would like others help though so if you can add anything please do. Finally can we request this article to be re-rated somehow ? I think it deserves a notch up for the plot section.

--Cpuwhiz11 00:52, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I finished the plot section. What do you all think about the work I did, be honest and brutal. --Cpuwhiz11 00:02, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's pretty good. I like it. Grammar needs improvement, but that goes for just about everything on Wikipedia. --maru (talk) contribs 01:34, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lucciola's death

"It is unclear whether he believed that she would help Dio, or whether he knew that he couldn't win against her and accepted his final fate." : At some moment Lucciola states that Dio and Delphine are everything to him. Thus fighting Delphine was not an option. He sacrifised himself hoping that she would consider his last wish and grant Dio freedom. Olmer 23:21, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It seemed to me that Lucciola and his kind were bred from birth to be The Guilds servant class,probably through the use of some sort of bio-engineering.It's possible that he was programmed somehow to be incapable of harming a high ranking Guild member.Wentt2125 07:02, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Plot summary needs fixing.

The article "plot summary" isn't a summary at all it is like going through every single episode meticulously. I suggest a total re-write, for a more condensed version.

I would oppose a rewrite as I prefer the summary the way it is, as it helps explain a complex anime better then a condensed summary would. This having been said is their a Wikipedia guideline to follow in relation to this? Cpuwhiz11 11:28, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto. Any rewrite should focus on improving its quality, not on removing it - it's still a summary if it is shorter than the original. --Gwern (contribs) 15:10, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think that this article needs somebody to take a weed-whacker to it. A Summary should be just that a Summary, something to tell readers the rough gist of the story, not explain it in detail.