Talk:Foundation ontology
And it's possible that it won't. What has this have to do with foundation ontology
- It is possible that nuclear weapons proliferation or some form of biological warfare technology could alter the consensus regarding physics and its foundation position in the sciences. In 2002 controversies and acrimony over the "censoring of science" useful to "terrorists" have emerged. Some consider this a threat to the objectivity of science itself.
- Most scientists consider this a remote possibility. But political factors, and reliance on a small number of similarly-constructured experimental apparatus has been an issue in science since Galileo, when the Moons of Jupiter were considered by some to be possibly be an artifact of the optics of the telescope. Theories that are only empirically tested by a small elite community in control of its funding and peer review, and closely controlled by authority, have historically been scientifically suspect.
I'm getting frustrated here.....
- Some anti-reductionists are concerned with cognitive bias, e.g. observer effects, and hold that the ontology should be composed of inclusion and exclusion operations, rather than of the objects included and excluded, e.g. a quantum physicist observing an entanglement must do so indirectly, keeping careful track of the observation timings, as they alter the particles seen!
ARRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!
There is a interesting debate within the physics community over the fundamental nature of the universe. I'm trying to explain what the debate is over in NPOV terms. Someone who clearly doesn't know what the debate is about, keeps changing that section and attributing views and issues which are not what the physicists are arguing over.
I have issues with the first statement. It seems to imply that there is a cultural group out there with no scientists in it.
The second sentence also has problems. Define deep. Deep to whom?
- However, no foundation ontology seems to be universally accepted by all peoples. The field of ethno-mathematics? is the most rigorous study of the variations, especially as understood by indigenous peoples. But the deepest empirical investigations follow the Western rational scientific method:
I also have extremely big problems with the term *Western* rational scientific method. One could get into a big argument over whether science started in the West, but I strongly object to the notion that it is a *Western* mode of thought now. After all, Chinese and Japanese people have won Nobel prizes in physics.
Can't one apply a Goedel-like argument to the statement "a foundation ontology is not provable" and conclude that foundation ontologies must be incomplete. If so, then what's all this fuss? The topic is a dead end street. -- Olof
Taking an engineering view .... approximations are extremely useful in staying on the leading edge of better approximations that are useful in various human activities such as technology, propaganda, warfare, education, etc.
The topic, even if called something else is a dead end street only for those who do not evolve useful ontologies.
For example: perhaps I should go start a series of articles on useful worldviews and start my own school of thought .... solution domain elements .... set theory ..... something .... then I could begin on my Wikipedia biography documenting myself as someone useful to have had around in the early 21st Century .... or I can join the fray over ontology .... decisions ... decisions ... user:mirwin