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Greetings! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you have questions or doubts of any sort, do not hesitate to post them on the Village Pump, somebody will respond ASAP. Other helpful pages include:

Have fun! --Jiang 03:20 27 Jul 2003 (UTC)


Hello, and welcome.

A couple of tips: See how I edited William Julius Wilson. You should begin with a complete sentence, not a dictionary-style definition, and highlight the title word or title phrase at its first appearance, like this. Michael Hardy 01:55, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)


I've listed an image that you uploaded (Image:EWR.jpg) on Wikipedia:Possible copyright infringements. Images that are copyrighted can't be used on wikipedia, unless you hold the copyright. You might want to look at Wikipedia:Image use policy and Wikipedia:Copyrights before you upload any other images. Maximus Rex 18:00, 6 Dec 2003 (UTC)


As an NJIT student, I thought your article on Newark, New Jersey was pretty spiffy, and much needed. The raw demographics in the article before were just not doing it for me, now there's a real article. Thanks for writing it! If you ever open an account at Wikipedia:WikiMoney, let me know and I'll give you 2 or 3 ψ (Wikis). :-) --cprompt 08:55, 23 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. In Hyde Park, Chicago and Pilsen, Chicago, I've brought the article into conformance with two Wikipedia conventions: (1) Begin with a complete sentence, not a dictionary-style definition, and (2) Highlight the title word or title phrase at its first appearance, like this. See my editing of those two articles. Michael Hardy 02:13, 27 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Emerald City

Hi! I read it in an on-line biography of L. Frank Baum I got by googling. It really rang a bell, to read of Baum's visit to the World Columbian Exposition. Try googling "Frank Baum Columbian Exposition" btw, do you agree that the exposition was the spark behind an ideal "Emerald City"? Wetman 07:04, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)~

Newark citations

I have to agree with your last comment; the citations do look a little bad in the actual body of the text. Perhaps you could use some form of footnote style, or otherwise just list the pages that you're citing at the bottom of the article. From my experience on Wikipedia, I've found that most articles -- even in the coveted "featured" category -- tend to just list the books/websites that they gleaned information from, rather than using a more academic citation style. Darkcore 01:51, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC

That doesn't mean its the best way. Few articles on Wikipedia are cited properly. Being slightly better than bad isn't good :) - Taxman 22:34, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)

To answer your last question: I don't live in Newark, but I'm pretty close -- I'm in Jersey City. (I like contributing to NJ-related articles.) Darkcore 01:51, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Thank you for adding the references. Can you confirm to what degree you used them to confirm or correct the material in the article? If you could find a couple more good ones that would be great too. Thanks - Taxman 22:34, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)

Presidential systems

I agree that numerical data would indeed be useful in making a case, but I'd respectfully suggest that it's impossible to get data that will be accepted by everyone — whether a system is democratic or not is often a matter of debate. Who is to say whether a system "failed" or not? Whatever definition we use, there will be people arguing that it is invalid. If the numerical data can be attributed to a particular observer, however, I think that would probably be okay under the NPOV policy. -- Vardion 04:44, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for uploading Image:P7220062.JPG. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much, Edwin Stearns | Talk 21:54, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Also Image:Pru.jpg. It would greatly help if you could properly tag any images that you know the provenance of. Thanks! Kbh3rd 07:09, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

And Image:Kentchi.jpg. Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 19:51, Dec 16, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for getting to those. I have two more now: Image:Ewrmus.jpg and Image:Ewrsmelt.jpg. Thanks in advance! Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 04:44, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

WikiProject New York City

Hello, I've started WikiProject New York City, and from your edits it seems you might be interested. See its talk page for the beginning of a discussion on the standardization of neighborhood names, and bringing New York City up to featured status.--Pharos 13:48, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

  • Hey Dinopup, now I must let you in on my incredible mass messaging secret. I didn't use a bot or anything, I just manually cut-and-pastted and picked out users from edit histories, talk pages, sometimes even user pages, who seemed most interested. In fact, I didn't even send it to everyone who edited an NYC article, just those who I saw stood out for a particular interest. Also remember to post a message on the Newark, New Jersey page and start the opening conversation on the project page. Good luck with the Newark project!--Pharos 17:47, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Newark

I wrote this on Talk: Newark, New Jersey but thought it was important enough to put on your talk:

Creating doubles of articles is a Wiki no-no. If you want to have the Vailsburg, Newark article show up when people search for Vailsburg, simply create a redirect at Vailsburg (as I have done). As for the Neighborhood Name, Newark vs. Neighborhood Name, Newark, New Jersey debate, we can create redirects at NN, Newark to NN, Newark, New Jersey articles (as has been done with the Vailsburg article), so that is not a problem from the point of view of searches. I do think that, whatever we decide, we should apply it to all neighborhood articles for the sake of consistency.

Also, I believe you were the one who added the numerous citations to the Newark article, which I'm beginning to live with, but I also commented on the topic earlier and wanted to be sure that you had a look (here are my comments):

I have a few comments about the recent addition of citations. First, the article is citing books/articles that are not listed in the references section (e.g., Crabgrass Frontier), so this needs to be addressed. Second, the bracketing style of referencing makes the article look choppy and is somewhat confusing, since it is inconsistent (sometimes the bracket notes the name of the book or the author of the book or both, and it also uses "Ibid" which is never used with the bracketing style). I think it would be better to use an endnote style, which would not detract from the flow of the text and would allow for references to still be included.

I wanted to add that I think you've done a great job with the Newark and Newark-related articles. Darkcore 23:47, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Do you need someone to rotate and re-upload those 2 pics? Evercat 00:59, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)