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liked == Greetings == Welcome,

You have done a good job so far in Wikipedia (WP). We're very glad that you've joined us. I can see that you're a serious Wikipedian interested in improving our project. If you stay for a while, you'll discovered that collectively, we're a cooperative and friendly community. We are all here to learn, and hopefully can give something back. If you have questions or doubts of any sort, do not hesitate to post them on the Village Pump, somebody will respond ASAP. Other helpful pages include:

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Who knows? Perhaps you'll soon become a Wikipediholic! :-) --Menchi (Talk)â 11:38, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)
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Hi. Please do not create sub-stubs like Corticosterone is currently, with an illustration only and no text. These are likely to be deleted. If it's worth starting an article, please try to have at least a sentence or two of text. Cheers, -- Infrogmation 05:49, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Well, I appreciated your stub with the structure of corticosterone, but when I linked to it discovered the image does not display. If it has been removed, would you be willing to replace it? I'll even add a few sentences to amplify to stub. Thanks. PS, you've got lots of company in resisting the CAM attacks. Alteripse 12:29, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for your edits on Potential difference, a thorn in my side for some time -- i.e., a long term resident on my list of articles to definitely edit when there's nothing demanding immediate attention [wink]. I think your solution is pretty close to what i'd have done; you may even have inspired me to touch it up slightly sometime soon.

You might like to know about the Page-history feature that appears on the menu of nearly every page, by default at the top and in the second block at the left. The history that covers your edits is an example, and the major reason i mention it is to encourage you to use the summary field near the "Save page" button on edit pages. I fumbled around a bit trying to see the form the volt link took in your final version; i thought conflating volt and voltage was a pretty bad idea. I was enormously pleased to see you eventually decided against that too, but it took me a while to see how your final solution worked, perhaps mostly bcz you only attached one summary. Those summary lines, long or short, are pretty valuable, and you can help your colleagues a lot by using them. (I may go overboard the other direction, but even so, you might get some ideas by looking at some of [ my examples], and those of other colleagues. Sorry so many of mine are dull LoPbN edits this month!)

Just at a glance, BTW, i can't say whether you are overusing Save-page, as many of us do at first. I use Show-preview frequently, i would guess more than 10 times as often as Save-page. One service it can provide is vanity-protection: most of my many [blush] typos, grammar mistakes, and awkward wordings aren't subject to peer review!

Thanks again for being here, and for that particular group of edits. I haven't given your WP oeuvre more than a quick glance at titles yet, but i have no doubt you have something valuable to offer here. --Jerzy(t) 18:13, 2004 Mar 22 (UTC)

What does {{msg:quantity}} do?

--rs2 01:42, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hi Fuelbottle,

I want to thank you for your work on the math in Wikipedia. I've had trouble accessing Mathworld, so I've relied heavily on Wikipedia for math lately.

I fear I just figured out what you did. Is {{msg:quantity}} a link to a page you wrote manually? I thought those tags were automatically generating it, but it appears that may not be the case. I want to do something similar on WikiBooks, but I'd really like it to be automated. Oh well. Also, did you need special privileges to set up Template:Quantity?

Thanks, -rs2 17:21, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

One more Norwegian?

Hello, I followed a hunch based on some of your contributions, and included you in the list of Wikipedians from Norway. If I am mistaken, feel free to remove yourself from the list, of course. If not, welcome! --Wernher 19:42, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Star Trek episodes

While I can see that some episodes need their own article - until we have more to say about any given one, should they all have stubs? Yours, Mark Richards 23:02, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)

It's possible. Why not? ;) Mark Richards 23:24, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Organ subsystem boxes

Hi, thanks for your message on my talk page about creating boxes for subsystems. I think it's a great idea, especially considering your blood components example. Off the top of my head, I can imagine that subsystem boxes would be very useful for the nervous system and muscular system as well. Would you like to head up this effort? Keep me posted. --Diberri | Talk 22:04, Apr 16, 2004 (UTC)

Now those areas are huge and need a very rigid and hierarchical order, before the amygdala ends up at the same level as the telencephalon (quod non). But it will definitely contribute. Sometimes one wished Wikipedia was more hierarchical in certain sets of articles, and the blue boxes fill a serious void.
PS Fuelbottle, in most of your famous boxes the items are Capitalised! I'll change it in <<msg:blood>>. Also, I wonder why blood is more part of the cardiovascular system than hematology!
JFW | [email protected] 12:47, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the nice work on the organ subsystem boxes. Could you please add your additions to Wikipedia:MediaWiki custom elements? Thanks! --Diberri | Talk 04:37, Apr 22, 2004 (UTC)

Just FYI, I moved MediaWiki:Endocrinepancreas to Template:Endocrine pancreas to improve the title a bit. I updated all links to MediaWiki:Endocrinepancreas as well. --Diberri | Talk 03:19, May 4, 2004 (UTC)

All references to the older pages have been marked for speedy deletion since they're no longer of any use. (This includes the MediaWiki:Pancreas page to which I had originally moved the endocrine pancreas blue box page.) --Diberri | Talk 03:21, May 4, 2004 (UTC)

I've listed this page, of which you are the primary author, on VfD. You may defend it at MediaWiki:VfD-Molbo. --Smack 19:17, 15 May 2004 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The VfD discussion reached consensus to keep the article. An archive can be viewed at Talk:Molbo story/Delete. -- Cyrius|&#9998 07:10, May 21, 2004 (UTC)

Human blood components

Nice work on the numerous style changes to List of human blood components. Please tell me you used a script to do all that work for you! --Diberri | Talk 22:34, May 21, 2004 (UTC)

Join the rest of us so called "vandals"

Hello, I see you're the latest in a long line of people to be called vandal by Mr Natural Health. You may be very interested to learn of this current arbitration process against Mr Natural Health and the evidence. Rest assured you are not alone. --bodnotbod 08:06, Jun 10, 2004 (UTC)

I've added a section on Lifestyle Diseases on the evidence page. If I've left out anything important please add it - particularly if you have suffered personal abuse. --bodnotbod 09:25, Jun 10, 2004 (UTC)
Well I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't think it's a good idea to have a huge alternative medicine box in everything from Junk food to Linus Pauling Fuelbottle | Talk 18:11, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
It's absolutely infuriating. I mean, OK be bold and add your CAM box. But if it (and its cousins) gets removed twice let alone NINE times. Sheesh. Anyway, I think this arbitration is bound to censure MNH for his Boxmania, but I haven't been around long enough to know what sort of punishment he might get. If he were to get a 24 hour ban that would be little more time than I spent looking at his edits ;o) --bodnotbod 19:37, Jun 10, 2004 (UTC)

If you are approached by anyone on the matter of your being accused of being a vandal please post a note on my page so I may provide a word of support. Mr-Natural-Health had an extreeme POV on the categorization issues related to alt. med. Steve Kd4ttc 01:51, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Ok, thanks :) Fuelbottle | Talk 01:58, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Category:Cocktails with vodka

Ha! Looks like you and I got the same idea to add Category:Cocktails with vodka to some of our favorite drinks. We must be thirsty ;-) --Diberri | Talk 04:15, Jun 11, 2004 (UTC)

Yes, indeed :) Fuelbottle | Talk 04:23, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Food additives

It was a mistake. I was trying to get rid of both can:bottom and your compromise of cam:tiny and I reverted to the wrong version. MNH types fast and furious and cleaning up after his spamming is bound to to produce errors like this (sigh) but what can you do? theresa knott 07:30, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)


Please do not create Category:Animalia, etc. We are discussing whether to and how to best utilize categories for these articles on the project they are managed by: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life. Thanks! - UtherSRG 03:03, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Ok, I saw there already was some categories there so I just thought i would expand a little...

A request

Hello Fuelbottle! I have just left a request at Wikipedia:Translation into English for a translation of a Danish article, but since I see on that page that you are the only Danish speaker listed at present, I thought I would write to you directly. The Danish article is and the article here is Icelandic horse. As you can see, we have a very short article here (which I wrote as well as I could), and the Danish article is quite long. Might you have time and interest to handle this? I speak no Danish at all (about 6 words of Swedish thanks to my ancestors from that country), so I will be of no help to you at all. Thank you in advance for any help you can give (or should I say "tak"? :-) Is it the same in Danish as in Swedish?) -- Jwrosenzweig 19:43, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Ok, I'll do that. Thank you is tak in Danish, takk in Norwegian and tack in Swedish, almost the same :) Fuelbottle | Talk 19:54, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Great work! :-) Thank you in every language. Jwrosenzweig 22:53, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)

minor v major edits

Fuelbottle - thanks for your responses on ToL. I see though that nearly all if not all of your edits are marked "minor" This could bebecause you have it set as the default in your preferences. Generally, only very small changes (like spelling corrections) are the only things that should be marked as minor. Certainly adding a whole sentance to a talk page is not minor! *grins* - UtherSRG 17:46, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Ok, I have it as default in my preferences and usually don't unmark it unless it's changes larges than a few lines in the main namespace. I often accidentally mark/unmark, as it's close to the savebutton, or forget to mark/unmark though. Is there a policy on this? Fuelbottle | Talk 18:09, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I hope you don't mind me butting in with my opinion here :-( Generally speaking the minor edit button is for things like formatting changes, correcting spelling errors and rewording of text that doesn't alter the overall meaning. If you add or remove information, or change the overall POV you should not mark it as minor. Lot's of people, especially when they are fairly new think "I've only added a couple of words so It should be marked minor" but if those couple of words add info then you can imagine the situation where a number of minor edits in a row can drastically alter an article. The usual guiding principle is - "If the article is on my watchlist - would I care about this edit and want to take a look?" if the answer to that question is probably "yes" then the minor edit box should not be checked. Unless the vast majority of your edits are typo fixes and the like it's best not to have the box checked by default. There probably is a policy somewhere but i don't know where to find it. theresa knott 19:51, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I seldom make typo fixes so I guess I'll uncheck it. Fuelbottle | Talk 20:07, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

categorizing Janjaweed

Hi, you have put the Janjaweed under Category:Islamist groups. While most people seem to agree that the Sudanese government (which supports them) can be called islamist, I haven't been able to google more than one reference which labels the Janjaweed islamists, rather than, say, more secular Arab nationalists. You seem to have more information about the group's ideology, why not add it to the article? For now I have removed the category. regards, High on a tree 18:51, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Well, actually I just used this list of terrorist groups to make the category. Janjaweed was added there by User:Sesel, so I'll forward the message to him Fuelbottle | Talk 01:36, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Discussion moved to Talk:Janjaweed


Any reason your being gender specific? --Tagishsimon

I created Category:American oil industrialists instead. -- Fuelbottle | Talk 02:55, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thank you very much for destroying useful information. There are scads of articles about business people who don't fall into any other category; just deleting the category and replacing with the unehelpful "people of the United States" is wrong. Next time try using the category's talk page first, that's why we have them!! Stan 03:50, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I'm not going to bother creating any more categories if you're just going to delete them without discussion first, it's just a waste of my time. Stan 04:02, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I created Category:Businessmen and just after I created it I got the above message from User:Tagishsimon so I removed the article I had added and added {{delete}} to it shortly after, this was before you had put Aaron Montgomery Ward in that category. I have now created Category:Businesspeople, so it can be discussed there. Fuelbottle | Talk 04:11, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

It's OK, was just a moment of irritation. Stan 13:15, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)