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Pop + Rap? Someone should have done the sensible thing and called it 'Pap'

Is there such a thing as pop rap. Personally I hate the idea. Please can we delete the page and hope the idea goes away too :)

Even if only 20% of people know what it means, we should keep it. ··gracefool | 04:04, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
We should certainly keep it. Appalling though much of it was, it was and still is a very important musical movement. Without pop rap, a lot of modern hip-hop just would not have existed. BigHaz 07:43, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)

factual accuracy.

We're in trouble from the first sentence: "rap-style lyrics sung melodically"???

This article should be rewritten. I will do it myself if I get a chance. To be included:

  • "Pop rap" is simply hip hop (rap) music with a very strong pop music influence. The more typically rough elements of hip hop music are smoothed away in order to achieve a crossover-friendly sound.
  • Kurtis Blow as "pioneer' (as it were)
  • DJ Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince
  • MC Hammer as first major crossover success
  • Vanilla Ice
  • Kris Kross, Bow Wow, and other kid acts
  • Puff Daddy, Biggie, Mase, and Bad Boy
  • Will Smith (2.0)
  • Jermaine Dupri
  • Nelly
  • Brief mentions of Snoop DOgg, Jay-Z, Cash Money & No Limit, 50 Cent, and a few others, who are more properly mentioned elsewhere. --FuriousFreddy 19:36, 24 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"Continuous from 1960's?

Would the 1960's be a little early? I can see some pre-rap coming from the late 1960's, but wouldn't "pop rap," if it existed, be a reacation to rap, and occur after "Rapper's Delight?"

Also, wouldn't "Rapture" from Blondie be included in such a list, since they were a non-hip-hop group rapping??