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March 18, 2005 – September 15, 2006

Half Life for DC

This game wasn't officially released for good old Dreamcast so I doubt it sold 1.5 million units on that plattform. I'll remove it. 213.157.11.194 15:16, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I thought the exact same thing. I also highly doubt the majority of the Sega console games sales are anyways near correct. User:WhiteMinority 19:46, 22 Sept. 2006

Complete Update

Hey, Can someone do a thorough update on all stats on this? I have not able to do this myself because I cannot find the most relable resource possible. Please include references and citation for everything. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kinopi (talk • contribs) 16:52, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

VGCharts

Please, do not revert anymore, instead come discuss here about whether VGCharts should be used as reference or not. Thanks. -- ReyBrujo 05:34, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

VGCharts is not sales numbers. They are sales estimates. A huge difference. WhiteMinority argued that because VGCharts' numbers were on the page, we needed to source them, and when I attempted to remove them, he reverted my edit. It was pretty obvious that he could not show that the numbers belonged on here by arguing that "they may not be right, but we need to source them anyway". Keeping these numbers is no better than changing the definition of up to mean down. - A Link to the Past (talk) 19:33, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, seems WhiteMinority (talk · contribs) does not seem bound to discuss here, I suggest a full rewrite of the article using sources different than Vgcharts, as it is not considered a reliable site. -- ReyBrujo 22:25, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have converted all vgcharts.org external links into references, moving down from 253 links to just 9. That should keep VGCharts spam under control. We should now try to replace these links with reliable ones. -- ReyBrujo 23:08, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's exactly what I think we should do, instead of just sweeping them all away just edit them when you come across something better. WhiteMinority 17:26, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So we should put a bad site up that has no actual sales numbers because we don't have any other sites? - A Link to the Past (talk) 18:23, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The modification I did was not to agree that VGCharts is notable to be included as reference, but I prefer having 9 links to VGCharts than 250 (A Link, note that your revert reincluded all those 250 or so links into the article). I suggest requesting the opinion from someone else to determine if it is a reliable source or not. -- ReyBrujo 02:29, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The numbers there are the same as numbers elsewhere. WhiteMinority 23:25, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh? [1] :[2]

Brain Training 2, according to Media Create - 3,221,750

Brain Training 2, according to VGCharts - 3,500,000

Notice the mile-long discrepency? You want to know why? As he states in the sourced article, these numbers are shipments. There is no debate - shipments are not sales. No self-respecting Wikipedian would support your effort (which is suspiciously fervous) to have shipments counted as sales figures. - A Link to the Past (talk) 02:04, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Some companies (Like Sony) the only numbers they give out are shipments so it's what gets used. WhiteMinority 16:32, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and good job on trying to completely mess up the page again. I hope Rey saved what he did and you stop trying to be a jackass.WhiteMinority 16:33, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We use as many sales as we can use. We do not use non-sales as an alternative to sales. - A Link to the Past (talk) 17:48, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WhiteMinority, why you think VGCharts should be used to reference sales? What makes it a reliable source? I am trying to understand both sides, and having it written down here will help other editors to understand the dispute. -- ReyBrujo 17:57, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have requested opinions from the Computer and video games WikiProject to try to settle this matter. The edit war is already two weeks old, and I would like this matter to be settled without having to request a mediation. -- ReyBrujo 18:03, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There need not be any discussion on the matter. Shipments are not sales, this article is not about sales. Just because Sony likes to twist words does not mean that them referring to PSPs sold is what this article is to be showing. - A Link to the Past (talk) 18:16, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

32x games.

I think the whole section of the Sega 32X should be removed considering the system itself never sold over 1 million units, so it's very hard to believe that any game ever did. May I remove it? WhiteMinority 17:28, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest that you do that, WhiteMinority.