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Unlike popular script fonts like [[Mistral (typeface)|Mistral]] & [[Choc (typeface)|Choc]] by [[Roger Excoffon]], which |
Unlike popular script fonts like [[Mistral (typeface)|Mistral]] & [[Choc (typeface)|Choc]] by [[Roger Excoffon]], which look more spontaneous, Ondine comes off as somewhat stiff due to its pointed [[Terminal (font)|terminals]] and its unusual upright stance, which is not typical for script fonts.<ref name=":1">{{Citation |last=Osterer |first=Heidrun |title=Ondine |date=2014-05-08 |work=Adrian Frutiger – Typefaces. The Complete Works |volume=1 |issue=2 |pages=50–57 |url=https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783038212607.50/html?lang=en |access-date=2025-06-15 |place=Basel |publisher=Birkhäuser |language=en |doi=10.1515/9783038212607.50 |isbn=978-3-03821-526-4}}</ref> |
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== History == |
== History == |
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The name 'Ondine' translates from French to 'wave'. The design traces its roots to [[Handwriting script|handwriting]] in the [[Humanist typeface|humanist]] era, |
The name 'Ondine' translates from French to 'wave'.{{Vague|date=June 2025}} The design traces its roots to [[Handwriting script|handwriting]] in the [[Humanist typeface|humanist]] era, a high point of [[Italian Renaissance]] typography in the 15th century. This movement was popular in [[Florence]], the heart of the [[Humanist Movement|Humanist]] movement home to several well-known type schools. Writers at the time aimed to replicate the writing style of literary works, taking form and style into consideration. Although the humanist era is its primary historical influence, there are multiple historical references visible, for example [[majuscule]] [[Italic type|italics]] of [[Roman times]]. As such, Ondine is not necessarily a copy of any particular historical [[letterform]]; instead, it represents a blend of different styles.<ref name=":1" /><ref name=":0">{{Cite web |title=Ondine Font {{!}} Webfont & Desktop |url=https://www.myfonts.com/collections/ondine-font-linotype |access-date=2025-06-14 |website=Myfonts |language=en}}</ref> |
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== Design == |
== Design == |
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Ondine's shapes were drawn using a broad pen and cut out of card stock with scissors, |
Ondine's shapes were drawn using a broad pen and cut out of card stock with scissors,<ref name="Foster_obit">{{Cite news |last=Foster |first=Charles | author-link=Charles A. Foster | date=2015-10-05 |title=Adrian Frutiger obituary |url=https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2015/oct/05/adrian-frutiger |access-date=2025-06-15 |work=The Guardian |language=en-GB |issn=0261-3077}}</ref> hence the character shapes featuring sharp openings. [[Adrian Frutiger|Frutiger]] recalls the process of the design of Ondine:<ref name=":1" /> |
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<blockquote>I picked the shapes that worked best. To finish those with opaque white and black ink would have taken me too long, so I wrote the letters with a broad pen on tracing paper and put them in the [[enlarger]]. I produced precise drawings from these, used white [[transfer paper]] to copy the type to black card, and then cut the letters out with scissors. If a detail was incorrect, I would cut something off or do letters again if need be. That way I quickly produced black and white originals, my speedy method for final artwork.</blockquote> |
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⚫ | There were also alternate characters produced as shown in a 1950s [[Deberny & Peignot]] specimen |
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⚫ | There were also alternate characters produced as shown in a 1950s [[Deberny & Peignot]] specimen; however, they aren't included in current digital versions.<ref>{{Cite web |first=Michel | last=Wlassikoff | title=Deberny et Peignot's "Ancien", "Ondine", "Typophane" ,"Cristal", ca 1955 |url=https://productiontype.com/article/deberny-et-peignot-s-ancien-ondine-typophane-cristal-ca-1955 |date=29 May 2024 | access-date=2025-06-15 |website=Production Type |language=en-us}}</ref> |
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[[Charles A. Foster|Charles Foster]] comments that "Although it has no oriental connection, [Ondine] has remained popular down the years with the designers of Chinese restaurant menus."<ref name="Foster_obit" /> |
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== Availability == |
== Availability == |
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Although it didn't find immediate success, |
Although it didn't find immediate success, Ondine was acquired in 1981 by [[D. Stempel AG]] in [[Frankfurt am Main]], and adapted for the [[phototypesetting]] machines of the [[Mergenthaler Linotype Company|Mergenthaler Linotype]] group. The typeface is available through [[Linotype GmbH|Linotype]] and [[URW Type Foundry|URW]] foundries. It was digitized by [[Adobe Inc.|Adobe]] in 1995. [[Bitstream Inc.|Bitstream]] created a version it named Formal Script 421.<ref>{{Cite web |title=Ondine in use |url=https://fontsinuse.com/typefaces/25067/ondine |access-date=2025-06-14 |website=Fonts in Use |language=en}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |title=Ondine |url=http://www.identifont.com/show?T6 |access-date=2025-06-14 |website=Identifont}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |first=Luc | last=Devroye | title=Adrian Frutiger |url=https://luc.devroye.org/fonts-71020.html |access-date=2025-06-27 |website=Luc Devroye}}</ref> |
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== References == |
== References == |
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Comment: I really like the font, but there just isn't any secondary sources that review/discuss the font in detail. We would need three or so sources that do that. See WP:42. qcne (talk) 21:42, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
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Comment: The book "Adrian Frutiger – Typefaces:Complete Works" has a chapter on Ondine. Editors with Wikipedia Library access can find it here [1]. Much of it is told by Frutiger, but the smaller text on the sides should count as independent sigcov, which is one source towards the WP:GNG. Toadspike [Talk] 18:12, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
Comment: We need several sources with significant coverage (at least a paragraph) about this font specifically, not just Frutiger. Toadspike [Talk] 17:58, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
Ondine is a script typeface designed by Adrian Frutiger in 1954 for the Deberny & Peignot foundry in France.
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Category | Script |
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Classification | Humanist |
Designer(s) | |
Foundry | Deberny & Peignot |
Date released | 1954 |
Re-issuing foundries | Linotype, URW, Bitstream |
Design based on | Legende by F.H. Ernst Schneidler |
Variations | Formal Script 421 |
Unlike popular script fonts like Mistral & Choc by Roger Excoffon, which look more spontaneous, Ondine comes off as somewhat stiff due to its pointed terminals and its unusual upright stance, which is not typical for script fonts.[1]
History
The name 'Ondine' translates from French to 'wave'.[vague] The design traces its roots to handwriting in the humanist era, a high point of Italian Renaissance typography in the 15th century. This movement was popular in Florence, the heart of the Humanist movement home to several well-known type schools. Writers at the time aimed to replicate the writing style of literary works, taking form and style into consideration. Although the humanist era is its primary historical influence, there are multiple historical references visible, for example majuscule italics of Roman times. As such, Ondine is not necessarily a copy of any particular historical letterform; instead, it represents a blend of different styles.[1][2]
Design
Ondine's shapes were drawn using a broad pen and cut out of card stock with scissors,[3] hence the character shapes featuring sharp openings. Frutiger recalls the process of the design of Ondine:[1]
I picked the shapes that worked best. To finish those with opaque white and black ink would have taken me too long, so I wrote the letters with a broad pen on tracing paper and put them in the enlarger. I produced precise drawings from these, used white transfer paper to copy the type to black card, and then cut the letters out with scissors. If a detail was incorrect, I would cut something off or do letters again if need be. That way I quickly produced black and white originals, my speedy method for final artwork.
There were also alternate characters produced as shown in a 1950s Deberny & Peignot specimen; however, they aren't included in current digital versions.[4]
Charles Foster comments that "Although it has no oriental connection, [Ondine] has remained popular down the years with the designers of Chinese restaurant menus."[3]
Availability
Although it didn't find immediate success, Ondine was acquired in 1981 by D. Stempel AG in Frankfurt am Main, and adapted for the phototypesetting machines of the Mergenthaler Linotype group. The typeface is available through Linotype and URW foundries. It was digitized by Adobe in 1995. Bitstream created a version it named Formal Script 421.[5][6][7]
References
- ^ a b c Osterer, Heidrun (2014-05-08), "Ondine", Adrian Frutiger – Typefaces. The Complete Works, vol. 1, no. 2, Basel: Birkhäuser, pp. 50–57, doi:10.1515/9783038212607.50, ISBN 978-3-03821-526-4, retrieved 2025-06-15
- ^ "Ondine Font | Webfont & Desktop". Myfonts. Retrieved 2025-06-14.
- ^ a b Foster, Charles (2015-10-05). "Adrian Frutiger obituary". The Guardian. ISSN 0261-3077. Retrieved 2025-06-15.
- ^ Wlassikoff, Michel (29 May 2024). "Deberny et Peignot's "Ancien", "Ondine", "Typophane" ,"Cristal", ca 1955". Production Type. Retrieved 2025-06-15.
- ^ "Ondine in use". Fonts in Use. Retrieved 2025-06-14.
- ^ "Ondine". Identifont. Retrieved 2025-06-14.
- ^ Devroye, Luc. "Adrian Frutiger". Luc Devroye. Retrieved 2025-06-27.
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