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John Jaffar Janardan

I noticed you blocked John Jaffar Janardan as a sock but didn't cite an SPI in the block log. I was wondering if you could say who JJJ is a sock of so his userpage can be tagged accordingly. Everymorning (talk) 01:03, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

I intentionally didn't tag his userpage.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:21, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

why did you not tag his userpage? when will we be able to know your intentions? ToddyWiper (talk) 01:13, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Can I contact you via email regarding a SPI case

Can I contact you via email regarding a SPI case? jason[dot]mphil1985 [at] gmail [dot] com Thank you.Cantab1985 (talk) 02:14, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Sure. I'll read it, but I don't respond by e-mail.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:08, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

What is your email for Wikipedia? I would like it to be private.Cantab1985 (talk) 13:00, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Click on Special:EmailUser/Bbb23 to e-mail me. If you mean the contents of your e-mail, I can't promise anything in advance of having read it.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:24, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

I have just sent the message please reply here if you have seen it. Contact personally regarding it thank you.Cantab1985 (talk) 13:46, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

I received your e-mail. As I said at the outset (see above), I will not contact you personally.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:51, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Lau Siu Lai

Lau Siu Lai isn’t a real person, individual animal, organization (band, club, company, etc.), web content or organized event that does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject. Lau Siu Lai have Reputation in Hk.I am richard923888（~\(≧▽≦)/~) 14:10, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

The Story

I see you deleted The Story, but I think this was wrong. It was the victim of disruptive socking by User:Charliewolf79 (see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Charliewolf79/Archive#04 June 2016 and should have been just reverted to the previous redirect. I could create a new redirect but that would be without the non-trivial history of this page. So can you please undelete it. The redirect can be restored and the socking taken care of with blocks or protection.--JohnBlackburne^words_deeds 22:24, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

I restored it and semi-protected it. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:28, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Unclearly tagging to AFD

I can't believe this tagging CSD but kept Sending to AFD you can look this Special:Contributions/KATMAKROFAN You can deal with it? ~ Junior5a (Talk) Cont 02:29, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

New account, more silly tennis articles

Two new articles popped up tonight. List of Grand Slam winning black tennis players and List of Grand Slam winning Asian tennis players. Created by brand spanking new editor Mariasakkari. We just had a bunch of these "types" of articles deleted that were created by User:Neebras‎, a sock of User:Nouman khan sherani, and I fear fruit-of-the-loom may be upon us again. No proof mind you, but it has me worried. Fyunck(click) (talk) 10:03, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

That one plus Nafisaali (talk · contribs · count). Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 11:54, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

I'm always worried I'm being paranoid on these types of reports and that it's a legitimate new editor. Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:35, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Sandbox

Dear Bbb23, I've just started to write in Wikipedia, so I'm not familiar with all the details. Yesterday I've been trying to add to Wiki an international company I work at, Brenmiller Energy: www.bren-energy.com, and it has been deleted from my sandbox :( I don't understand why, and I was in the middle of the writing and designing, so its a bit frustrating.... I've seen similar companies in wikipedia such as EnergyNest. I am an environmentalist and I believe that its important to write on renewable energy and energy efficient. I will be more than happy if you could explain me why have you deleted my work. Thank you and best wishes, Adi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adi Chap (talk • contribs) 10:52, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

I didn't delete anything from your sandbox. I deleted the article from name space per WP:CSD#A7 and I blanked your sandbox, which had nothing of any value in it. You shouldn't be writing an article about your own company as you have an obvious conflict of interest. If you are working on an article, you shouldn't put it in article space until it's ready. New editors at Wikipedia are encouraged to use the WP:AFC process so more experienced editors can give feedback as to the notability of the proposed article and any other issues that arise that cause it to be unsuitable for Wikipedia.--Bbb23 (talk) 11:19, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Tagging users as sock

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Enurarfa

--Marvellous Spider-Man 11:45, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Sri Chinmoy IP-hopper evading block

Victory Clarion, after creating five socks that have been blocked (by you, along with the master), is now evading the blocks by editing logged out as an IP-hopper. It was already obvious that s/he lives in LA from this post-COI-warning logged-out edit in July [1] (identical to this previous logged-in edit in early June [2]), and the IP-hopper who has been adding promotional stuff to the article ever since the last sock was blocked is from LA. Would you mind semi-protecting the article? If so, thanks. Softlavender (talk) 01:52, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

I'm liberal about such things, but I don't think it has sufficient recent disruption to warrant protection. If that changes, let me know.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:30, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Well, they just registered yet another account:

Parkprowler8 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

Would you mind CUing and blocking that one, or do I have to go through the tiresome ritual of letting them post a little more (and cleaning up after them) until I officially report them? Thanks. Softlavender (talk) 01:47, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Re-created sock article

Hello Bbb23, as you have been dealing with Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Marianwolfe86 including its current closing, you may be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Richard A Kimball Jr. - Healthcare Expert, another evasive copy for the Kimball article mentioned in the SPI case. I have nominated the article for speedy deletion now. GermanJoe (talk) 02:33, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

@GermanJoe: That was complicated. I've blocked TheNewsHerald2000 and deleted the article per G5. You can see my reasoning at the SPI. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:27, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Carrie Able

You previously deleted Carrie Able as G5. The page was created again by a new account. I CSDed it as G4 (since there was an AFD), but thought I should alert you to it since it could be socking. EvergreenFir (talk) 19:47, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

@EvergreenFir: Account blocked, article deleted. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:58, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Neebras

what was the master account? email me if more appropriate. DGG ( talk ) 18:00, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

@DGG: Neebras's user page states who the master is: Nouman khan sherani (talk · contribs · count).--Bbb23 (talk) 18:15, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

thanks;; I must have missed it. DGG ( talk ) 18:17, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Sock?

Hi Bbb23! I saw you recently blocked Chfhfzdbn as a sock of Pablo909. Hipsydipseee (which was blocked by Oshwah )has edited that page and I reverted it. Hipsydipseee also has/had created a slough of user pages for new accounts. I was wondering if the two might be related? Would this be enough for a CU/SPI? Should I file one or can you look into it? Thanks! --Cameron₁₁₅₉₈ ^(Talk) 19:01, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

There's zero behavioral connection between Hipsydipseee and Pablo909.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:31, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Okay I wan't familiar and though't I'd ask thanks! --Cameron₁₁₅₉₈ ^(Talk) 03:00, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello

Hello can you see here. The fact that this IP and Juliandas51 even knew of that Wikimedia Commons old thing and used it to smear me is telling alot.--Jobas (talk) 21:03, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

I am not Anatha Gulaty, Ich Pilot, or any other user who tormented Jobas in the past months. As a checkuser you Bbb23 probably already know this. Yet this doesn't mean that Jobas' editing is good. I have discovered his edit history in Wikimedia Commons just because I'm good at searching.

Bbb23, as a user with a long history and an ArbCom-appointed checkuser I expect you to act thoughtfully and reasonably. Let me tell you that you are not doing a good thing in defending Jobas every time someone advances a criticism of his editing style.--151.18.105.221 (talk) 21:29, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Question

I noticed you block people without leaving any reason behind. When they appeal you don't even answer them. Please explain what kind of authority do you have? you are acting taliban... I'll take it to proper noticeboard...just informing you.. you seem to abusing checkuser rights... I'll make proper case at proper noticeboard with all examples of your recent enforced blocks... Do you not need to explain when you block somebody? ToddyWiper (talk) 01:07, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Just a note this user opened a thread at WP:ANI about this just thought you should be made aware. --Cameron₁₁₅₉₈ ^(Talk) 03:00, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Quacked loud enough to get blocked for quite obvious sock puppetry. -- Dane2007 ^talk 04:07, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Checkuser

Could you run a quick checkuser for me, please? I have a probable DUCK sock of an indef blocked user and I need to confirm. The sock is Sjick14, the indef-blocked user is CaptainHog. SPI at the far bottom will have the most current IP and account information, of course. Diannaa usually handles these, but she is offline at the moment. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 13:57 on September 3, 2016 (UTC)

Also, could you check for any sleepers while you are at it and see if a rangeblock is possible? Much appreciated. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 13:57 on September 3, 2016 (UTC)

I filed an SPI related to the above request. Just letting you know. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 15:25 on September 3, 2016 (UTC)

Taken care of by Doug Weller. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 16:15 on September 3, 2016 (UTC)

Question

Can I ask why five full reverts made by editor Needbrains are not considered a violation of 3RR? EkoGraf (talk) 18:11, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

You really need to read the policy. Consecutive edits don't constitute more than one revert.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:24, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

I read the 3RR policy about the consecutive edits thing, the way the sentence was composed, at least to me (English not my primary language), I did not understood that consecutive edits don't constitute more than one revert. Fine, my bad, I can try talking to him more. But I ask now, taking into account the editors past behavior (like I explained at the noticeboard) of being hostile and uncivil towards fellow editors, and constantly edit warring, and considering all of this his medal, what do you suggest if he takes the same tone again (mocking me and insulting as he already did)? What is your advice? If he makes more reverts of my edits, and does this time violated 3RR, should I report him or do something else? EkoGraf (talk) 18:39, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

You can always report him if he violates 3RR. It would be better if the two of you could work it out, but that depends on both of you focusing on content, not conduct. There are also other ways to resolve issues of disputed content that don't require his participation. The easiest way is to start a dialog on the Talk page and hopefully other editors, not just you, will engage.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:46, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

I will try. Thank you. EkoGraf (talk) 18:49, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Dilkrishna Shrestha

Hi, am considering a deletion review on this because the article had references that showed he is an actor and film producer so had a claim of significance. Can you please explain why it was deleted? thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 18:12, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Lots of people are actors and film producers. That doesn't make them inherently notable.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:25, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

This article had sources that seemed reliable confirming his acting and producing a number of films through his own production house which is different to most actors so am inclined to go to deletion review Atlantic306 (talk) 18:57, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Not one of his films appears to have an article en-wiki. Many people start their own production companies. If he's notable at all, it sounds like it's restricted to urban areas of Nepal, which is hardly enough to qualify someone for a Wikipedia article. His journalism between 2061 and 2065 is quite remarkable. I have a suggestion. I can userfy the article for you to work on. If nothing else, it needs polishing. You can then either submit it through WP:AFC or directly into article space. If it gets tagged again as an A7, I won't be the reviewing administrator because I rarely delete an article per A7 twice. I let another administrator look at it. In any event, I think that will be faster than deletion review, but it's entirely up to you.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:39, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, can you userfy it for me please, the films not having articles is a good point so will check the sources more carefully before AFC or article space Atlantic306 (talk) 20:48, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Here it is: User:Atlantic306/Dilkrishna Shrestha. Good luck!--Bbb23 (talk) 20:53, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Congrats!

Hello and congrats on 105,957 edits! Have fun editing! :) Hawkeye75 (talk) 03:26, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Question about SPI "relisted" status

Hi. When an SPI is marked as "Relisted" (e.g., the CensoredScribe SPI), does it need to be re-endorsed before a CU will look at it? Or does the "relisted" status imply a new endorsement? I'm just wondering because the CensoredScribe SPI has been sitting idle for over a week since being relisted. Thanks for any enlightenment. — Richwales (no relation to Jimbo) 06:37, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

@Richwales: No, it doesn't need to be re-endorsed. I frankly don't understand that case and its history, and I was hoping that Ponyo and/or Mike V would sort it out, but Ponyo is apparently done for the moment, and Mike hasn't stepped in.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:34, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Understood. Thanks. — Richwales (no relation to Jimbo) 16:41, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Question

Why are you reverting my edits on talk pages? Hawkeye75 (talk) 21:25, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Why are you editing other editors' comments? BTW, I meant to put in an edit summary when I undid your edit, but my pinky slipped and hit the Enter key.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:27, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

First off, just because I edited someone else's comments doesn't mean you can revert a page, your abusing your power. Second off, your starting to Wikihound. Third, WP:TPO says that you can fix format errors. I was putting a damn bullet there, which is how you reply to a suggestion. Hawkeye75 (talk) 21:29, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

You're wrong on all counts. I suggest you take a break. You're not helping yourself continuing the way you are.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:30, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Ok well if "adding a bullet" is bad, deleting a comment is worst. Hawkeye75 (talk) 21:33, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Don't be surprised when you make an edit you shouldn't make that the entire edit is undone even if part of it is arguably okay. In any event, your comment was completely inappropriate and still is now you've re-added it. "end of discussion"? What kind of thing is that to say in a discussion with other editors? I'm leaving it alone because god knows I'm not about to start reverting all inappropriate Talk page comments, but in your case it's yet another indicator of your poor judgment.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:39, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

When I said "end of discussion", I didn't mean it that way, it's a common expression in real life, which was badly portrayed in the text. Hawkeye75 (talk) 21:42, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

It is a common expression and except when used humorously is considered rude.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:44, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

I never intended to use it humorously, I'm sorry if it offended you. Hawkeye75 (talk) 21:45, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

You misunderstand. It's usually offensive when it's not used humorously. In the Talk page discussion, it's dismissive.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:11, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

My 1000th edit ^. Hawkeye75 (talk) 21:46, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Mea Culpa Comment

I apologize. I was way out of line.--Adam in MO Talk 03:05, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Papaursa

Not sure what to do about this - don't appreciate having my comments deleted on an SPI. I believe they are, in the main, directly relevant.Peter Rehse (talk) 14:18, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

I don't think it's Marvellous Spider-Man's place to revert, but, as it happens, I agree with them that it's irrelevant, so please leave it alone. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:28, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Fine - not sure I agree about the relevance - but I (or others) did say most of what I thought previously.Peter Rehse (talk) 14:37, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

PRehse is a good editor. He has 80,000 edits. I didn't file this against him. He had mentioned a previous SPI, where he was linked with this group. PRehse just have similar interests. But I am ignoring their comments directed at me like righteous cop wanna be and I have had it with sore losers. --Marvellous Spider-Man 14:50, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Proving one's innocence in a sockpuppet investigation

What is the fastest way to prove one's innocence in a sockpuppet investigation? As you know, I am currently being accused by User:Voceditenore of sockpuppetry at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/84101e40247. 85.165.228.44 (talk) 17:25, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

None.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:48, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Who should "close" an SPI?

Sorry if this is an elementary question that I should know the answer to, but is it proper for a non-clerk to change the status of an SPI to "close"? Or should that be left for clerks to do? — Richwales (no relation to Jimbo) 14:23, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

I just saw the discussion at BU Rob13's Talk page and was about to comment there. Rob is right. A non-clerk administrator may close an SPI, just not archive it. In fact, I'm happy when an administrator blocks and closes, saves a step for us.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:26, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Inappropriate closure of thread “Breach of Wikipedia:local consensus and WP:own from Jytdog and Doc James”

My complaint against these editors have not been addressed; therefore you are requested to remove the closure template. The problem that I am reporting is WP:article ownership and breach of WP:local consensus. The comments received in Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents did not address this at all and mischaracterized this as a “content dispute”. It is not a content dispute; my report has always been against the behavior of Jytdog and now additionally Doc James and I made this clear in Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Breach of Wikipedia:local consensus and WP:own from Jytdog and Doc James. If not by opening a thread or removing the “discussion archived” templates, how are editors supported to challenge inappropriate closures when the concerns have not been addressed?. Mario Castelán Castro (talk) 15:50, 6 September 2016 (UTC).