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Mahmud of Ghazni

Thanks for the correction on the Lahore being the first great Islamic capital of SA thing. I have made a much more neutral and reliable edit now that just specifies NW India to Punjab. Arlinosam (talk) 01:55, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

You removed information based on your opinionated expressions.

Greetings, I noticed you removed information about the article Gujarat Sultanate as you cited the information is "low sources". That is not a valid reason to remove any information, and you cannot opinionate anything based on your views and expressions. GujaratiHistoryinDNA (talk) 19:07, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

@GujaratiHistoryinDNA: Those were not my views, but none of them are anywhere close to reliable scholarly sources which is what I meant from low-quality - WP:HISTRS

• This one doesnot have the name of author and it's apparently from a self-published press - see WP:USINGSPS
• Second one is probably of even more inferior quality, again another self-published work from two random authors who seems anything but professional historians.

PS:- We don't promote fringe views from random authors or easily accessed books which wrote whatever they like and is not even remotely related to the academic consensus on the subject. I am not a expert on the subject - but still as a history expert and being around for a year on the enclyopedia, sources like those are below par to say the least, Cheers. ∆ P&t ♀√ (talk) 19:36, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

I saw the discussion here after reverting an edit on Muzaffar Shah I - here [[1]], I would like to point out that the second ref is based on republished articles of Wikipedia. Lastly, what I read and as pointed above we don't use it. The other two references are also dubious to say the least, one seems to be a book of coaching class. Similar additions were made on two more pages related to Muzaffar Shah I, which I have reverted. Akalanka820 (talk) 10:17, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

@Akalanka820: My main point was that these references which GujaratiHistoryinDNA cited are too poor for even normal standards let alone for a extradordinary claim is not a academic consensus on the subject. I am tired of dealing with caste-related articles (dealing with such fringe elements) and as result not editing them much of late. ∆ P&t ♀√ (talk) 18:23, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Give me your proof it is a poor source? I cited THREE SOURCES. GujaratiHistoryinDNA (talk) 21:10, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

GujaratiHistoryinDNA just see this reference you had added- [[2]], the details of it exactly says that the content are from Wikipedia articles - "High Quality Content by WIKIPEDIA articles! The Muzaffarid dynasty were sultans of Gujarat in western India from 1391 to 1583. The founder of the dynasty was Zafar Khan Muzaffar (later Muzaffar Shah I) who was governor of Gujarat under the Delhi Sultanate..." . It is a reference based on wikipedia articles not an academic reference. On Wikipedia, mirror contents are not used. Read WP:SPS, WP:MAF. You don't need rocket science to understand this. Akalanka820 (talk) 04:13, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

GujaratiHistoryinDNA your first reference added- [[3]], does not even have writers name, it has an editor's name there and they have collated it into a book (first page of it says). Now, please read what is WP:RS, WP:HISTRS, this reference added by you is not an academic reference at all as per it. You have already removed that rarebook third reference you added. That is another case of WP:SPS. If you are too much adamant on adding your content, please get an academic reference. And please don't write your opinionated statements... , these are not my opinion or the other editor's opinion. Now, you have been explained not by one but by two, therefore better not edit war on it. Akalanka820 (talk) 04:35, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

@Akalanka820: Is M.S. Naravane a competent source, does it passes the WP:HISTRS criteria - this one ? ∆ P&t ♀√ (talk) 00:47, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Response

Hi, Naravane is a retd Wing Commander, every one jumps into history stuffs. He is definitely not a historian. Akalanka820 (talk) 04:03, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

@Akalanka820: Indeed, thanks. ∆ P&t ♀√ (talk) 06:22, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

I was Bobby “Boris” Pickett’s Manager for 18 Years!

I need to correct false information and add an external link to his official Monster Mash website MonsterMashter (talk) 19:48, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @MonsterMashter: If this is true, then you shouldn't be editing the article at all. See WP:COI. - FlightTime (open channel) 21:00, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

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you are everywhere reverting everything

Seriously GujaratiHistoryinDNA (talk) 07:46, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

@GujaratiHistoryinDNA: Obvious trolling ! Unless a specific diff. is added. ∆ P&t ♀√ (talk) 04:16, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Book you requested.

Here is the book you requested at Talk:Muhammad_of_Ghor- [4]. The file will be automatically deleted after 72 hours. Akshaypatill (talk) 17:09, 9 October 2022 (UTC)